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From airmin

Still a concept though

From akurat, the home call KRI ardadedali

Police in training

Hai Mado long time not see

Have you guys put this video before ? This video is kind of cool

Indonesian Military 2018

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[Indos]

Indonesia wants to renegotiate KFX fighter project
Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Industry
01 May 2018

Indonesia is looking to renegotiate the financial agreement through which it is participating in a programme with South Korea to develop the Korean Fighter Xperiment/Indonesia Fighter Xperiment (KFX/IFX) aircraft.

Brigadier General Totok Sugiharto, official spokesman of the Indonesian Ministry of Defence (MoD), said in comments published by the state-run Antara news agency on 1 May that the renegotiation is necessary to review the technological benefits that Indonesia is attaining through the programme.

He also confirmed Indonesia’s access to related technologies had been restricted due to export controls applied by the US government.

“The renegotiation is necessary to make clear Indonesia’s gain from the programme [because] the project is financed with funds from the state budget,” Brig Gen Sugiharto said. Commenting on US restrictions, he added, “There is equipment that should not be given to us.”

Despite the barriers, Brig Gen Sugiharto said he expected the joint programme to continue.

Under a finance agreement signed by the governments of Indonesia and South Korea in 2015, Indonesia is committed to pay for 20% of the total development costs of the KFX/IFX, which are estimated at about USD8 billion. The South Korean government will pay for 60% of the development programme, with prime contractor Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) covering 20%.

In return for its investment, Indonesia has joint developer status on the programme and has integrated engineers from its state-owned aerospace company, PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI), into the project in South Korea.

The KFX/IFX project envisages the production of six fighter aircraft prototypes by 2021, followed by four years of trials and the completion of development by mid-2026.

http://www.janes.com/article/79727/indonesia-wants-to-renegotiate-kfx-fighter-project

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There is another article saying that Indonesia IFX will not use radar absorbing material and internal weapon bay. In short, we will be given KFX block 1 while Korea get block 2. RAM is the equipment that I think is the one that is not allowed to be given to us. Indonesia also wants to have the right to sell the aircraft though, according to local media. Other issues cited by Korean writer is the fact that our engineers are not given access to research US technology. It means the problem are more than one.

With those problem arise, it is a good idea to get Korea into a negotiation table once more. From my perspective, one step forward to solve the issue is to have Indonesian government adds more IFX and promise to buy at least 120, not just 50 as initial plan. There should not be any problem with this changing plan since it is inline with our current plan to add 7 new fighter jet squadrons. Promising to buy at least 120 fighter will automatically increase our bargaining power despite our stake on the program is only 20 %.

There should not be any worry either whether we will be able to fulfill the promise inshaAllah. As we know, our GDP have already surpassed 1 trillion USD. If we can eliminate oil subsidy that burden our budget, we can get more financing for our defense budget. After 2020 I believe we even can get profit from selling oil to our people inshaAllah. Timor Leste oil price for example is higher than us, despite our GDP percapita is much bigger than them. Maintaining low oil price by giving subsidy to car/motorcycle owner are a false policy. This policy have already burdens Indonesia so much that make us cannot develop as much as we should be. Jokowi should stick to its previous promise to have a healthy state budget instead. Jokowi recent oil price policy is a betrayal to his rational 2014 voters.

OK, lets back to IFX issue. Having a fighter with RAM and internal weapon bay plus the ability of our engineers to access US technology should be a main priority for Indonesian official on the bargaining table. Talking about selling the aircraft, I think the right to sell in South East Asian region is enough.

Another step we should take is to convince USA about the importance to have a strong Indonesia in the future. With China has already had their own 5 generation fighter, we cant afford to have 4,5 generation fighter in the time where US power is declining in the SEA region after 2025.

 

[Nike]

BREAKING: Prosecutors demand death for pro-IS cleric Aman Abdurrahman

• Callistasia Anggun Wijaya
  The Jakarta Post
  

Jakarta | Fri, May 18, 2018 | 11:47 am

Breaking News (TJP/File)

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Prosecutors have demanded that pro-Islamic State (IS) cleric Aman Abdurrahman be sentenced to death for allegedly inspiring a series of terror attacks on Indonesian soil.

“We demand that the panel of judges […] find Oman Rochman, alias Aman Abdurrahman, alias Abu Sulaiman, guilty of committing an act of terrorism […] and sentence him to death,” said prosecutor Anita Dewayani.

The prosecution team made the sentence demand at the South Jakarta District Court during Friday's hearing, when they also read out the indictment against Aman.

Aman, widely known as the influential jihadi ideologue among Islamist militants grouped under the local Jamaah Ansharud Daulah (JAD) terror group, has been accused of inspiring at least three major terror attacks in 2016 and 2017.

The attacks include the Jan. 14, 2016 Thamrin bombing and shootout that killed four people, the Nov. 13, 2016 Samarinda church bombing that killed a toddler, and the May 25, 2017 Kampung Melayu twin bombings that killed three policemen.

A JAD member testified in court that Aman had inspired the establishment of the radical group, which is said to be the largest pro-IS group in the country.

The JAD has been blamed for the recent string of terror attacks in the past several days, including the deadly riot at the National Police’s Mobile Brigade headquarters (Mako Brimob) in Depok, West Java, and a series of bombings that killed at least 13 people in Surabaya and Sidoarjo, East Java.

Aman, who was being held in a separate block at the Mako Brimob detention center from the instigators of the riot, reportedly played a role in ending the 36-hour standoff between terror inmates and police. The standoff on May 8-9 ensued after 10 terror inmates linked to JAD killed five members of the police’s Densus 88 elite counterterrorism squad and took one other member hostage following the initial riot, which then escalated.

The hearing was originally scheduled for Friday a week ago, but prosecutors were unable to gain access to the detention center to transport Aman to the courthouse, as the police had locked down the facility in the aftermath of the incident. (ahw)

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...osecutors-demand-death-for-pro-is-cleric.html

 

[TowerMan]

late post form Multilateral Naval Exercise Komodo (MNEK) 2018

at Lombok, West Nusa Tenggara
all foto is taken by me

 

[Zarvan]

Jokowi agrees to revive Koopsusgab special forces

• Marguerite Afra Sapiie
  The Jakarta Post

Jakarta | Fri, May 18, 2018 | 07:57 pm

Indonesia's elite military unit Kopassus parade in formation during an exercise at a naval base in Cilegon, West Java, on Oct. 3, 2015 in preparation for the 70th anniversary celebration of the Indonesian Armed Forces on Oct. 5 to be led by Indonesian President Joko Widodo. (AFP/Romeo Gacad)

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President Joko "Jokowi" Widodo has agreed to reinstate the suspended military’s Joint Special Operations Command (Koopsusgab) to assist the National Police in antiterrorism operations under certain conditions.

The joint force comprises of special forces of the Indonesian Military's (TNI) three armed forces, namely the Army's Special Forces (Kopassus), the Navy's Denjaka specialized squad and the Air Force's Bravo 90 unit.

"The government is in the process of establishing a joint special operations command [...] in order to create a safe and secure environment for the public," Jokowi said in Jakarta on Friday.

The announcement was made in the wake of a string of terrorist attacks on Indonesian soil, which has thrown the nation into a state of paranoia.

Jokowi emphasized that the special force would be deployed only when the National Police's capacity was deemed inadequate to respond to an emergency.

"That means preventive measures are much more important than repressive measures," he added.

Jokowi's statement came days after Presidential Chief of Staff Moeldoko said that the President had expressed his agreement to a proposal to revive the special force, which was first established when Moeldoko was the TNI commander in 2015.

The special command's operation was later suspended under the leadership of Moeldoko's successor Gatot Nurmantyo. (swd)

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2018/05/18/jokowi-agrees-to-revive-koopsusgab-special-forces.html

Sorry but it's not old Special Forces which are being revived but joint command of all special forces is being revived. So why the title suggests that sold old special force is being revived

 

[Nike]

Paskhas to acquire Turangga APC, first batch is 13 examples

INDONESIA
TNI AU AKAN MENGAKUSISI APC TURANGGA
19 MEI 2018 DIANEKO_LC TINGGALKAN KOMENTAR
Akhir-akhir ini, muncul photo dan video APC Turangga sedang menjalani uji coba di wilayah Gunung Bromo oleh Korps Paskhas. Korps ini merupakan salah satu kesatuan dibawah naungan TNI AU.

Sumber Lancer Defense mengatakan bahwa Korp Paskhas akan mengakusisi enam unit APC Turangga, namun demikian pihak TNI AU belum memberikan keterangan resmi perihal akusisi ini.

Pada gelaran Indo Defence 2016 lalu, PT Tugas Anda meluncurkan armoured personnel carrier (APC) Turangga.

Kendaraan lapis baja baru ini didasarkan pada chassis Ford 550 dan dikembangkan untuk melakukan berbagai misi, operasi perdamaian dan konvoi pengawalan.

Kendaraan ini menawarkan tingkat perlindungan unggul hingga tingkat B6 dan dapat dikonfigurasi dengan berbagai pilihan platform senjata.

Kendaraan personel lapis baja Turangga akan mampu membawa 10 personel dan dua awak.

APC Turangga memiliki berat 8-9 ton, menggunakan mesin Ford V8-6.7L dan mampu mencapai kecepatan hingga 110 km/ jam di jalan beraspal serta rentang operasi hingga 800 km.

All Photos: Uji coba APC Turangga di wilayah Gunung Bromo oleh TNI AU pada bulan ini. (IMF/ Istimewa)

Editor: (D.E.S)

 

[striver44]

Sorry but it's not old Special Forces which are being revived but joint command of all special forces is being revived. So why the title suggests that sold old special force is being revived

Koopsusgab had been established before, then somehow it got disbanded

 

[katarabhumi]

There is another article saying that Indonesia IFX will not use radar absorbing material and internal weapon bay. In short, we will be given KFX block 1 while Korea get block 2. RAM is the equipment that I think is the one that is not allowed to be given to us. Indonesia also wants to have the right to sell the aircraft though, according to local media. Other issues cited by Korean writer is the fact that our engineers are not given access to research US technology. It means the problem are more than one.

With those problem arise, it is a good idea to get Korea into a negotiation table once more. From my perspective, one step forward to solve the issue is to have Indonesian government adds more IFX and promise to buy at least 120, not just 50 as initial plan. There should not be any problem with this changing plan since it is inline with our current plan to add 7 new fighter jet squadrons. Promising to buy at least 120 fighter will automatically increase our bargaining power despite our stake on the program is only 20 %.

There should not be any worry either whether we will be able to fulfill the promise inshaAllah. As we know, our GDP have already surpassed 1 trillion USD. If we can eliminate oil subsidy that burden our budget, we can get more financing for our defense budget. After 2020 I believe we even can get profit from selling oil to our people inshaAllah. Timor Leste oil price for example is higher than us, despite our GDP percapita is much bigger than them. Maintaining low oil price by giving subsidy to car/motorcycle owner are a false policy. This policy have already burdens Indonesia so much that make us cannot develop as much as we should be. Jokowi should stick to its previous promise to have a healthy state budget instead. Jokowi recent oil price policy is a betrayal to his rational 2014 voters.

OK, lets back to IFX issue. Having a fighter with RAM and internal weapon bay plus the ability of our engineers to access US technology should be a main priority for Indonesian official on the bargaining table. Talking about selling the aircraft, I think the right to sell in South East Asian region is enough.

Another step we should take is to convince USA about the importance to have a strong Indonesia in the future. With China has already had their own 5 generation fighter, we cant afford to have 4,5 generation fighter in the time where US power is declining in the SEA region after 2025.

Oh, look who's back .. Nice to see you again. Welcome back, bang.

I read sometime ago - if I remember right - our scientist were developing RAM from "Cangkang Kepiting" and had made a considerable progress .. Don't know how it goes now though.

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[striver44]

 

[Indos]

Oh, look who's back .. Nice to see you again. Welcome back, bang.

I read sometime ago - if I remember right - our scientist were developing RAM from "xxxxxxxxx" and had made a considerable progress .. Don't know how it goes now though.

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Thanks, nice to see you too bro

you need to edit those statement if it is true due to secrecy

As far as I know air frame material for STEALTH fighter is not waterproof so there will be oil leak, it makes US create a new type of oil that is not easily burned. As we know our KRI Klewang was also destroyed due to fire. They are now trying to create composite material that will not get burned easily but so far hasnt been able to made one. Government needs to research on this thing as well. And I read somewhere that F 35 doesnt have too much RAM either. So there is a speculation that KFX will be more stealthy than F 35, maybe comparable with F 22. The bad thing about F 22 is that it needs more maintenance than conventional plane.

Talking about how research is conducted in this nation, Previous KFX late payment is a hint though, I am afraid current government is not quite serious on funding our research project. If KFX project can be treated like that, how can we assure that another research will get enough funding from the government. As I mentioned in previous post, government is more concern on how to maintain its power than seriously developing the nation. Low oil price policy is an example of that. During SBY there is 300 trillion on oil subsidy alone a year. If that fund were allocated on productive program, we will have already more developed than Today. Jokowi should not make the same mistake. He also needs to spend on research, not only infrastructure that become his main priority.

 

[Satria Manggala]

Multilateral Naval Exercise Komodo 2018

 

[Nike]

HALO exercise, paskhas TNIAU

 

[Star Bugs]

Thanks, nice to see you too bro

you need to edit those statement if it is true due to secrecy

As far as I know air frame material for STEALTH fighter is not waterproof so there will be oil leak, it makes US create a new type of oil that is not easily burned. As we know our KRI Klewang was also destroyed due to fire. They are now trying to create composite material that will not get burned easily but so far hasnt been able to made one. Government needs to research on this thing as well. And I read somewhere that F 35 doesnt have too much RAM either. So there is a speculation that KFX will be more stealthy than F 35, maybe comparable with F 22. The bad thing about F 22 is that it needs more maintenance than conventional plane.

Talking about how research is conducted in this nation, Previous KFX late payment is a hint though, I am afraid current government is not quite serious on funding our research project. If KFX project can be treated like that, how can we assure that another research will get enough funding from the government. As I mentioned in previous post, government is more concern on how to maintain its power than seriously developing the nation. Low oil price policy is an example of that. During SBY there is 300 trillion on oil subsidy alone a year. If that fund were allocated on productive program, we will have already more developed than Today. Jokowi should not make the same mistake. He also needs to spend on research, not only infrastructure that become his main priority.

"government is more concern on how to maintain its power..." Let's face it. Which government in this world don't do that? Which political figures in our country, when they become president, won't be concerned with clinging to power? Name your hero for 2019.

"If that fund were allocated on productive program...." Such as?

"He also needs to spend on research, not only infrastructure that become his main priority."

He is spending on research. What research do you want him to spend more? And how much more money?

 

[Mr. Woof Woof]

"government is more concern on how to maintain its power..." Let's face it. Which government in this world don't do that? Which political figures in our country, when they become president, won't be concerned with clinging to power? Name your hero for 2019.

"If that fund were allocated on productive program...." Such as?

"He also needs to spend on research, not only infrastructure that become his main priority."

He is spending on research. What research do you want him to spend more? And how much more money?

According to Nota Keuangan beserta APBN 2018 released by Financial Ministry : Our research budget is IDR 41,28 Trillion or almost USD 3 billion.

 

[Indos]

According to Nota Keuangan beserta APBN 2018 released by Financial Ministry : Our research budget is IDR 41,28 Trillion or almost USD 3 billion.

Indonesia research funding is small:

"Menteri Riset Teknologi dan Pendidikan Tinggi Muhamamd Nasir mengatakan tahun ini pihaknya menggelontorkan dana untuk penelitian sebesar Rp 1,395 triliun. Selain itu ada penambahan alokasi untuk Perguruan Tinggi Negeri Badan Hukum sebesar Rp 380,4 miliar. Sementara untuk dana pengabdian kepada masyarakat juga dikucurkan senilai Rp 150 miliar."

https://nasional.tempo.co/read/833275/dana-riset-2017-pemerintah-gelontorkan-hampir-rp-14-t