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but how could you get BANNED with only 1 post? seriously!?
Wkwkwk is he really get banned with only one post!! He must be attacking chinese member here, i always get banned after a "discussion" with chinese pdf member, but not if i get serious fight with vietnamese or other nationality...... Beer for him then,
 
Wkwkwk is he really get banned with only one post!! He must be attacking chinese member here, i always get banned after a "discussion" with chinese pdf member, but not if i get serious fight with vietnamese or other nationality...... Beer for him then,

Another militant member... take beer :D
 
KRI Bung Tomo on duty

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Still around $50 million price tag.

I really intrigued about how much do we spend to build 110 meter OPV for coast guard? Anybody know the figure?

And if Palindo marine can design and build such OPV, i believe Pt.PAL is more than capable to come up with a better design for the navy since they are already have experience on building light frigate.
from some sourch roughly hull only maybe less expensive then 30 depends on steel and compartment, the engine and the electronic is the most unfrienly cost, with western engine, electronic set (radar, EO, armament etc) and motor, it can be double from the hull price
 
Marine Security is Indonesia Pride
Red: Agung Vazza
Antara/Akbar Nugroho Gumay
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Anggota TNI Angkatan Laut mempersiapkan Helikopter disela latihan laut Marine Naval Excercise Komodo (MNEK) 2016 di Perairan Kepulauan Mentawai, Sumatera Barat, Kamis (14/4).

By: Pardiyanto *)

REPUBLIKA.CO.ID, Marine security requires strong and powerful action from the State through maritime security actors. The national security and sovereignty of the State is a great foundation for security actors to enforce the law of any shipping violations in the Indonesian marine territory. Sovereignty is the authority or high authority of a State to guard its territory. Marine security actors are the only appropriate pillar of the State to address any maritime violations because security actors are supported by a variety of personnel resources, weaponry and great infrastructure. Citizens and communities are unlikely to secure maritime offenses committed with modern equipment and technology.

Just look at the Marine and Fisheries Resource Patrol (PSDKP) Shark Patrol (PSDKP) Shark Tiger 01 who must face the intimidation and provocation of the Coast Guard and the Vietnamese Navy when arresting five Vietnamese Ship Fishers (KIA) with 55 crew (ABK) who stole fish In the area of the Exclusive Economic Zone (ZEE) of Indonesia in the waters of the Natuna Islands, Prov. Riau Islands (21/5/2017). Vietnamese Coast Guard vessel crashed into one of the KIA Vietnam that will be driven PSDKP Tiger Macro 01 patrol to Batam Port until almost drowned, consequently 44 Vietnamese crew escaped with Coast Guard Vietnam and five Kia Vietnam re-released, even the Second Shipwright II PSDKP Shark Macan 01, Danang Gunawan Wibisono was taken hostage by the Coast Guard of Vietnam.

The Law of the International Sea confirms the zonation of marine or marine territories which is the sovereign authority of a coastal state or an archipelagic state, so that law enforcement and mobilization of weapon forces become the authority of the State to uphold the sovereignty of the territorial waters. Some maritime zones agreed in UNCLOS 1982 include: Territorial Sea (Territorial Sea) the widest width of 12 miles measured from the base line, inland waters of the waters on the land side of the territorial sea basin, where foreign ships have no right passing. The islands are waters enclosed by an archipelagic base which is the full sovereignty of a country, the additional zone is a zone bordering the Territorial Sea and not exceeding 24 nautical miles from the base line, the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) of a maritime zone located outside and adjacent to the Territorial Sea.

UNTAET Regulation 1982 (UNCLOS 1982), EEZ applies two legal regimes: first, applicable to a special legal regime (suigeneris) states that the EEZ region is not a fully-contained area and not the applicable law of the Free Sea law regime, Exclusive right which means that other countries can utilize EEZ of a country without the country's consent. EEZ is a marine area adjacent to the Territorial Sea measured 200 miles from the base line, where a country has the sovereign right to undertake the exploration, exploitation, management and conservation of biological and non-biological natural resources from the seabed and subsoil and undertake activities - other activities such as hydroelectricity, ocean and wind currents in the EEZ region.

With confirmation that recognized the Law of the Sea Islands (archipelagic state), Indonesia has a strong policy to fight hard to defend the sovereignty of the sea. To realize fully Islands National, State Indonesia has some homework to be resolved: first, hammer out an agreement with neighboring countries in order to determine the continental shelf and the EEZ. Indonesia faced with 10 neighboring countries (Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam, India, Australia, Papua New Guinea, East Timor and Palau) who have maritime borders, which enables overlapping maritime boundaries and must be unanimous in determining the maritime boundary. Indonesia has not yet agreed on the Continental Shelf with Thailand, Malaysia, East Timor and Palau. While the EEZ that have not been agreed upon among the Indians (not meeting at all), Thailand (already 2 times), Malaysia (for the segment of the Malacca Strait, South China Sea and the Celebes Sea), Vietnam (already 8 times), Palau and Nauru Leste. Some of the Continental Shelf and EEZ that have obtained the agreement of which with Australia, Papua New Guinea, Philippines and Singapore (do not have a zone of the continental shelf and the EEZ).

Second, filing (submission) limit excess Continent to CLCS (Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf og). In Article 76, paragraph (1) UNCLOS 1982 mentioned the seabed and subsoil beyond the territorial sea which are situated along a natural continuation of its land territory to the outer edge of the continental edge or to a distance of 200 nautical miles from the Baselines when the outer edge of the continental edges do not cross that distance.

Indonesia has three potential areas where the continental shelf is more than 200 nautical miles measured from the base line, west of Sumatra, south of Nusa Tenggara and north of Papua. Indonesia has partially submitted to the western seas of Sumatera, where CLCS's recommendation of the Indonesian submission was issued on March 11, 2011, so based on the recommendation, the area of the Continental Shelf on the western bee of Sumatra becomes 4209 km², wider than the initial proposal on June 16, 3915 km².

Third, the firmness of supervision and legal action in the archipelagic sea lane of Indonesia (ALKI). Indonesia has struggled to establish international sea shipping lanes in the territory of Indonesian marine sovereignty. On August 30, 1996 attached the concept of Indonesian Archipelagic Sea Lane (ALKI) in the forum of International Maritime Organization. Further on May 19, 1998, the concept of ALKI can be approved by the International Maritime Organization. So that the Government establishes the Rights and Obligations of Ships and Foreign Aircraft that pass through the ALKI on 28 June 2002. ALKI I, the voyage between the South China Sea and the Indian Ocean or vice versa by Sea Natuna, Karimata Strait, Java Sea and Sunda Strait, ALKI II voyage between the Sulawesi Sea and Indian Ocean or vice versa via Makassar Strait, Flores Sea and Lombok Strait, and ALKI III voyage between Pacific Ocean and Indian Ocean or vice versa through Maluku Sea Seram, Banda Sea, Ombai Strait and Savu Sea, or Banda Sea, Leti Strait, or Banda Sea and Arafuru Sea.

Foreign aircraft and ships passing through the ALKI have the obligation: to pass quickly, to prevent the occurrence of threats or the use of force against the Island States, not to commit acts that violate international law, to focus on the purpose or intention of passing directly, continuously and as quickly as possible, and Comply with international rules and regulations.

The international community's confidence in the sovereignty of the archipelagic States may decrease when the supervisory and marine security apparatus are not firm in cracking down on any maritime offenses, law enforcement of sea offenses is not running clean and post-judicial handling is not good, and Alutsista (the main tool of the system Defense) is still left behind from other countries. The Government's efforts to repatriate or deport about 695 non-yustisian Vietnamese crew abducteans who were arrested for illegal fishing in the EEZ of Indonesia (9/6/2017) and good handling of ABK pro yustisia prisoners became part of post-judicial handling Improve the image of Indonesia. Therefore, the sovereignty of the archipelago State can only be realized when the Government is always based on firm diplomacy (as the character development of human resources of security actors) and the strengthening of Alutsista.

*) Social and Behavior Observer


http://en.republika.co.id/berita/en/speak-out/17/06/20/orusnh413-marine-security-is-indonesia-pride
 
Indonesia will buy 10 to 11 Sukhoi 35 says Indonesia defence minister

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Pembelian Sukhoi Su-35 Disebut Menguntungkan Indonesia

23 Juni 2017
Metrotvnews.com, Jakarta: Menteri Pertahanan (Menhan), Ryamizard Ryacudu, menyebut pembelian Sukhoi SU 35 menguntungkan Indonesia. Sebab ada kerja sama berkelanjutan antara negara produsen Rusia dengan pemerintah Indonesia.

"Karena ada imbal dagangnya 50 persen. Kita bisa ekspor," kata Ryamizard di Kantor Kementerian Pertahanan, Jakarta Pusat, Kamis 22 Juni 2017.

Perjanjian antara Indonesia dan Rusia itu meliputi pembangunan pabrik suku cadang pesawat tempur di Tanah Air. Nantinya di Indonesia akan tersedia suku cadang hingga pusat perbaikan Sukhoi.

Namun Menhan menolak menjelaskan detail kerja sama termasuk 50 persen imbal dagang mengingat hal tersebut, kata dia, masuk ranah Kementerian Perdagangan (Kemendag). Yang jelas, Ryamizard akan berusaha mendatangkan 10 lebih pesawat tempur Sukhoi ke Tanah Air.

"Kemarin kan dananya untuk 8 pesawat, saya akan coba bisa 10. Kalau bisa 11 (pesawat Sukhoi)," kata Ryamizard.

Disinggung mengenai waktu kedatangan pesawat, Mantan KASAD itu meminta semua pihak sabar. Karena proses mendatangkan pesawat terbilang rumit, apalagi yang baru. "Ya dibuat dulu, kan kita enggak beli bekas," pungkasnya.

(MetroTVNews)
 
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Participants, from left, Indonesian armed forces chief Gen. TNI Gatot Nurmantyo, Philippine Foreign Affairs Secretary Alan Peter Cayetano, Indonesian Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi, Malaysian Foreign Minister Anifah Haji Aman, Philippine National Security Adviser Hermogenes Esperon Jr. and Philippine armed forces chief Gen. Eduardo Ano, link arms prior to the start of their Trilateral Security Meeting in suburban Pasay city, southeast of Manila, Philippines, June 22, 2017. The southeast asian neighbors plan to closely cooperate to halt the flow of militants, weapons, funds and extremist propaganda across their borders as they expressed alarm over the recent attacks in their countries, including the disastrous siege of southern Marawi city by militants aligned with the Islamic State group. AP

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Minister Calls on Three Countries to Address Terrorism in Marawi

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TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - During a foreign ministerial trilateral meeting between Indonesia, Philippines, and Malaysia, Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi said that terror attacks in Marawi, are issues that need to be jointly addressed by the three countries.

“The trilateral meeting is initiated as a form of our solidarity for the issues faced by the Philippines,” Retno said in a press release on Friday, June 23, 2017.

Retno added that foreign ministers of the three countries expressed their concerns with terrorism and extremism in the Philippines. She pointed out that the incident should be a momentum for the three countries to strengthen their commitment to eradicating terrorism and cross-border crimes, “as well as agreeing to initiate a joint action plan to address the issue.”

Also attending the meeting were Indonesian Military commander Gen. Gatot Nurmantyo, National Police chief Gen. Tito Karnavian, and National Counterterrorism Agency head Comr. Gen. Suhardi Alius.

After the meeting, Gatot explained that the Indonesia-Philippines-Malaysia joint sea patrol signed on Monday would become a strong basis for the three countries to eradicate terrorism in border areas.

In the meeting, it was decided that Indonesia will host the next meeting in October 2017. The second meeting is expected to result in a Joint Action Plan signing.

“However, the three countries have agreed to roll out cooperations in the near future,” Retno said.

https://en.tempo.co/read/news/2017/...hree-Countries-to-Address-Terrorism-in-Marawi
 
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Paris Air Show 2017: Airbus DS outlines progress on armed C295
Erwan de Cherisey, Paris - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
23 June 2017
Airbus Defense and Space (DS) is set to deliver its first armed intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) C295 aircraft to an undisclosed customer in September, Pablo Melero, marketing manager for ISR Military Aircraft at Airbus DS, told Jane's.

The modified aircraft features a forward-looking infrared (FLIR) under the nose, a multimode search radar with maritime and ground surveillance modes, a palletised version of Airbus DS' newest Fully Integrated Tactical System (FITS), which features additional screens for improved situation awareness, and a pair of 12.7 mm manually operated heavy machine guns (HMG) firing through the rear parachuting doors. The exact type of HMG was not disclosed by Airbus DS.


bukan buat Indonesia ya? ngarep.com wkwk
 
Indonesia will buy 10 to 11 Sukhoi 35 says Indonesia defence minister

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Pembelian Sukhoi Su-35 Disebut Menguntungkan Indonesia

23 Juni 2017
Metrotvnews.com, Jakarta: Menteri Pertahanan (Menhan), Ryamizard Ryacudu, menyebut pembelian Sukhoi SU 35 menguntungkan Indonesia. Sebab ada kerja sama berkelanjutan antara negara produsen Rusia dengan pemerintah Indonesia.

"Karena ada imbal dagangnya 50 persen. Kita bisa ekspor," kata Ryamizard di Kantor Kementerian Pertahanan, Jakarta Pusat, Kamis 22 Juni 2017.

Perjanjian antara Indonesia dan Rusia itu meliputi pembangunan pabrik suku cadang pesawat tempur di Tanah Air. Nantinya di Indonesia akan tersedia suku cadang hingga pusat perbaikan Sukhoi.

Namun Menhan menolak menjelaskan detail kerja sama termasuk 50 persen imbal dagang mengingat hal tersebut, kata dia, masuk ranah Kementerian Perdagangan (Kemendag). Yang jelas, Ryamizard akan berusaha mendatangkan 10 lebih pesawat tempur Sukhoi ke Tanah Air.

"Kemarin kan dananya untuk 8 pesawat, saya akan coba bisa 10. Kalau bisa 11 (pesawat Sukhoi)," kata Ryamizard.

Disinggung mengenai waktu kedatangan pesawat, Mantan KASAD itu meminta semua pihak sabar. Karena proses mendatangkan pesawat terbilang rumit, apalagi yang baru. "Ya dibuat dulu, kan kita enggak beli bekas," pungkasnya.

(MetroTVNews)
For real now? I'd like to be positive about this but I'm holding my enthusiasm til' the contract is signed
 
Trilateral Maritime Patrol

Lanud Sultan Hasanuddin Terus Dukung Trilateral Maritime Patrol


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✈️ Pesawat intai TNI AU [TNI AU]


Patroli bersama Trilateral di wilayah perairan tiga negara yakni Indonesia, Malaysia, dan Filipina yang tergabung dalam Trilateral Maritime Patrol (TMP) Indomalphi terus dilakukan di wilayah Tarakan, Provinsi Kalimantan Utara.

Patroli bersama tiga negara itu telah disepakati sejak tahun lalu antara masing-masing Menhan ketiga negara, mengingat maraknya aksi pembajakan dan penculikan di sekitar perairan Sulu, sehingga ketiga negara sepakat untuk meningkatkan kerja sama keamanan untuk meredam aksi kejahatan di perairan tersebut.

Lanud Sultan Hasanuddin melalui perintah Komando atas segera mengerahkan satu flight pesawat Boeing 737 Intai Strategis Skadron Udara 5 dan satu flight pesawat tempur Sukhoi SU-27/30 untuk mendukung latihan patroli bersama tersebut.

Komandan Lanud Sultan Hasanuddin Marsma TNI Bowo Budiarto menegaskan Lanud Sultan Hasanuddin siap mendukung latihan Trilateral Maritim Patrol dengan mengerahkan dua flight pesawat, masing masing satu flight pesawat Boeing 737 Intai Strategis Skadron Udara 5 dan satu flight pesawat tempur Sukhoi SU-27/30 Skadron Udara 11 wing Udara 5 Lanud Sultan Hasanuddin.

Komandan Lanud Sultan Hasanuddin juga mengatakan hingga saat ini kerjasama latihan patroli bersama tersebut berjalan dengan aman dan lancar, dengan harapan kerja sama patroli ini bisa meningkatkan hubungan kerja sama militer sekaligus menekan maraknya aksi kejahatan di sekitar perairan batas wilayah ketiga negara. (fo)

✈️ Fajar online
 
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Trilateral Maritime Patrol

Lanud Sultan Hasanuddin Terus Dukung Trilateral Maritime Patrol


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✈️ Pesawat intai TNI AU [TNI AU]


Patroli bersama Trilateral di wilayah perairan tiga negara yakni Indonesia, Malaysia, dan Filipina yang tergabung dalam Trilateral Maritime Patrol (TMP) Indomalphi terus dilakukan di wilayah Tarakan, Provinsi Kalimantan Utara.

Patroli bersama tiga negara itu telah disepakati sejak tahun lalu antara masing-masing Menhan ketiga negara, mengingat maraknya aksi pembajakan dan penculikan di sekitar perairan Sulu, sehingga ketiga negara sepakat untuk meningkatkan kerja sama keamanan untuk meredam aksi kejahatan di perairan tersebut.

Lanud Sultan Hasanuddin melalui perintah Komando atas segera mengerahkan satu flight pesawat Boeing 737 Intai Strategis Skadron Udara 5 dan satu flight pesawat tempur Sukhoi SU-27/30 untuk mendukung latihan patroli bersama tersebut.

Komandan Lanud Sultan Hasanuddin Marsma TNI Bowo Budiarto menegaskan Lanud Sultan Hasanuddin siap mendukung latihan Trilateral Maritim Patrol dengan mengerahkan dua flight pesawat, masing masing satu flight pesawat Boeing 737 Intai Strategis Skadron Udara 5 dan satu flight pesawat tempur Sukhoi SU-27/30 Skadron Udara 11 wing Udara 5 Lanud Sultan Hasanuddin.

Komandan Lanud Sultan Hasanuddin juga mengatakan hingga saat ini kerjasama latihan patroli bersama tersebut berjalan dengan aman dan lancar, dengan harapan kerja sama patroli ini bisa meningkatkan hubungan kerja sama militer sekaligus menekan maraknya aksi kejahatan di sekitar perairan batas wilayah ketiga negara. (fo)

✈️ Fajar online
waiting for our drones to be put in action........compared to B737 recon aircraft, drone offers more flying hours+lower operating cost
 
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waiting for our drones to be put in action........compared to B737 recon aircraft, drone offers more flying hours+lower operating cost

for a while drone cant give actual situational awareness like what manned surveillance aircraft can do, nor drone cant bring much surveillance equipment like our Slamm ER and other surveillance aircraft in TNI inventory

eh iya deh, itu special custom C295 beneran buat TNI AU

http://m.aviationweek.com/awindefense/indonesia-orders-two-more-c295s
 
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For our non indonesian friends, this 110 meter OPV for coast guard, locally build in Indonesia only cost around $ 17 million... while 80 meter version only cost around $9 million.

Our coast guard plans to build a lot of this ship to patrol our EEZ... sweet..

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for a while drone cant give actual situational awareness like what manned surveillance aircraft can do, nor drone cant bring much surveillance equipment like our Slamm ER and other surveillance aircraft in TNI inventory

eh iya deh, itu special custom C295 beneran buat TNI AU

http://m.aviationweek.com/awindefense/indonesia-orders-two-more-c295s
Looks like it could be Indonesia.

Menelusuri Jejak C-295 “Special Mission” Untuk Indonesia

indomiliter | 31/03/2017 |

Airbus Defence and Space (ADS) bisa dibilang manufaktur pesawat dan satelit yang cukup ‘terbuka’ berbagi info terkait produk yang dijajakannya. Tengok saja website airbusdefenceandspace.com, begitu menjelaskan tentang spesifikasi pesawat angkut, jet tempur, drone, sampai satelit. Terkhusus ke pesawat angkut sedang C-295, semua varian pesawat angkut yang juga digunakan Skadron Udara 2 TNI AU ini dijelaskan secara panjang lebar, kecuali C-295 varian SIGINT.

Selain varian angkut personel, ADS menawarkan C-295 untuk menunjang misi khusus, dan dibagi ke dalam varian armed/ground ISR (Intelligence Surveillance and Reconnaissance), varian maritime patrol and anti-submarine, varian water bomber, varian AEW (Airborne Early Warning), air to air refuelling, VIP transport, Medevac (Medical Evacuation), dan varian SIGINT (Signals intelligence). Yang saat ini digunakan TNI AU adalah C-295M yang berjumlah sembilan unit, dan dikenal sebagai pesawat angkut taktis lapis kedua TNI AU, lapis pertama sudah barang tentu Lockheed C-130 Hercules.

Pengadaan C-295M memang telah tuntas, namun debut C-295 tak lantas sepi dibicarakan, ketika Indonesia dikabarkan sedang mencari sosok pesawat AEW, maka nama C-295 kembali disebut-sebut sebagai kandidat yang potensial. Namun dalam dokumen rencana belanja alutsista di MEF (Minimum Essential Force) II Kementerian Pertahanan, malah terkuak kebutuhan dua unit C-295 dengan kategori “Special Mission.” Merujuk ke istilah special mission, ADS lebih mengedepankan pada varian gunship yang masih berupa cetak biru. Dan mengacu pada logika, pesawat jenis gunship dari platform pesawat angkut hampir pasti tak masuk hitungan TNI untuk saat ini.

Kemudian ada pernyataan menarik dari Fernando Alonso, Head of Military Aircraft, Airbus Defence and and Space saat bertandang ke Jakarta pada Agustus 2016, menurutnya C-295 Special Mission punya peran khusus, meski Ia tak mau menjelaskan apa yang khsusu dari C-295 Special Mission, namun Alonso memastikan bahwa yang dimaksud bukanlah varian AEW. C-295 AEW resmi merilis C-295 AEW pada ajang Paris AirShow 2011. Jenis radar AESA (Active Electronically Scanned Array) pada C-295 AEW mengadopsi tipe rotor yang berputar 360 derajat. Radar putarnya dipasok oleh perusahaan Israel, Elta System.

Bila kita kesampingkan C-295 Special Mission adalah varian AEW, maka belum lama ada informasi baru yang layak dicermati. Lewat Twitter @warnesyworld (27/3/2017), Alan Warnes, jurnalis Shepardmedia menyebut bahwa TNI AU sedang malakukan upgrade salah satu dari sembilan unit C-295M, dari pesawat angkut taktis menjadi pesawat yang punya kemampuan command and control (Kodal). Meski belum bisa dikonfirmasi kebenaran dari cuitan Alan, kabar ini sontak membuat harapan baru pada kemampuan elemen pesawat intai TNI. Dan kuat dugaan bahwa roadmap upgrading C-295M mengarah ke varian SIGINT.


Berbeda dengan C-295 AEW yang telah dipesan oleh beberapa negara, maka seperti apa sosok C-295 SIGINT masih misterius, tidak ada foto definitif yang memperlihatkan C-295 SIGINT, sepertinya ADS memang berusaha menjaga rapat-rapat jika ada pesanan C-295 SIGINT. Secara garis besar, pada dasarnya C-295 SIGINT mengusung kombinasi dari fitur ISR (Intelligence Surveillance and Reconnaissance), IMINT (Imagery intelligence), ESM (Electronic Support Measures), ELINT (Electronic Intelligent), dan COMINT (Communications Intelligence). Selain itu C-295 SIGINT spesifikasi perangkat yang akan hadir adalah sensor optronic (optical electronic) dan wideband data link.

Dengan beragamnya funsi intelijen dan komunikasi yang dibawa C-295 SIGINT, setidaknya dibutuhkan delapan awak yang mengedalikan beragam konsol. Secara umum, C-295 SIGINT dapat mengudara selama delapan jam. Karena menyangkut koneksi dan integrasi data berkualitas tinggi, operasional C-295 SIGINT didukung ground element, bisa terdiri dari unit fixed atau mobile dengan kontainer.

Benarkah C-295 SIGINT yang nantinya bakal memperkuat TNI? Kita tunggu saja jawabannya, yang jelas jika sejumlah pihak tutup mulut terkait pesawat ini maka itu wajar adanya, mengingat peran strategis dari pesawat ini. (Haryo Adjie)

http://www.indomiliter.com/menelusuri-jejak-c-295-special-mission-untuk-indonesia/
 
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