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Indo-Pak talks - the aftermath

I wont bang my head replying to an ignorant fool.
Try understanding a simple fact would he hold a press conference and tell lies in another country and contradict his host for fun?
Or maybe Ms roy was trying to cover her @ss in front of indian media for self consumption?
 
I wont bang my head replying to an ignorant fool.
Try understanding a simple fact would he hold a press conference and tell lies in another country and contradict his host for fun?
Or maybe Ms roy was trying to cover her @ss in front of indian media for self consumption?


Simple fact is that you cant reply without personal attacks. Can you not stick to the topic instead of writing how frustrated I am, foolish, etc.

:wave: Second time lucky ... Reported.
 
Indo-Pak talks focused on Kashmir since 1947.
What is the result?

700.000 Indian troops in Indian Occupied J&K.
More than 100.000 Innocent civilian killed by Indian Army.

For India is only one song that they are singing to Pakistani and to the World and that is:

Mumbai Attack!

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That's the most ridiculous statement. Wasn't he complaining about India sticking to Mumbai and Terror topics? Until the terror issue is properly addressed, India aint talking about Kashmir. When did Kashmir creep up now?
 
Mumbai Attack happened right before Obama take place as a president of USA.

Congress party in India wanted to have a STRONG issue for to win elections.

India wanted to create more pressure on Pakistan, even Pak was already in trouble that time.

In other words, India was very much involved into Mumbai Attack.

India is well known as propaganda maker against Pakistan all the time.

Now they still keep cry like little babies to the whole world for Mumbai Attack and seeking world`s sympathy.

When I say:

Indians Are Wolves In Sheep,

Then no doubt about that at all!


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Rivals India, Pakistan agree to "keep in touch"

The first official talks between India and Pakistan since the 2008 Mumbai attacks ended on Thursday with only an agreement to "keep in touch," signalling that relations between the nuclear-armed rivals remain frosty.

The meeting also marks a tiny step in improving the outlook for stability in Afghanistan, where India and Pakistan have long battled for influence, complicating regional security, but many obstacles remain.

The two nations' top diplomats met in a former princely palace in a heavily guarded New Delhi neighbourhood and agreed to "remain in touch" to build trust with each other.

"We went into today's talks with an open mind but fully conscious of the limitations imposed by the large trust deficit between the two countries," Indian Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao said after talks with her Pakistani counterpart, Salman Bashir.

"In line with our graduated and step by step approach, our aims were modest."

Neither diplomat said if there would be a next round of talks, though the prime ministers of the two countries have an opportunity to meet at a regional summit in Bhutan in April.

Rao, wearing a black and red sari, and Bashir, in a dark suit, shook hands in front of the cameras before walking into a sprawling room for discussions.

The two countries did not appear to agree on which subjects should be covered in the talks; India wanted to focus on terrorism while Pakistan eyed the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir that has been the cause of two of their three wars.

"We don't like to be sermoned on the issue of terrorism; we know what it means," Bashir said, adding 5,366 Pakistani civilians had been killed in militant attacks since 2008.

"From Pakistan's perspective the core issue that has troubled Pakistan-India relations is the issue of Jammu and Kashmir...and any effort to be dismissive of this issue will not be healthy."

Kashmir, which India and Pakistan claim in full but rule in part, remains at the heart of their dispute. India accuses Pakistan of abetting a 20-year revolt in Indian Kashmir. Pakistan says it only gives moral support.

EVIDENCE HANDED OVER

Bashir also criticized India's role in Afghanistan, saying the country was being used to supply weapons and funds to militants to destabilize Pakistan. New Delhi denies this.

India broke off talks after the Mumbai attacks, saying dialogue could resume only if Pakistan acted against militants on its soil. It blamed the attacks, which killed 166 people and derailed a four-year-long peace process, on Pakistan-based militants.

India handed three new dossiers of evidence to the Pakistani delegation on Thursday, including one on Hafiz Saeed, the rabble-rousing head of the Lashkar-e-Taiba militant group blamed for the Mumbai killings.

Bashir said he would look into the fresh dossiers, but dismissed earlier evidence India supplied against Saeed as more "literature than evidence."

Re-engaging Pakistan was a politically fraught move for New Delhi, given strong Indian public opinion against talks, but a nudge from Washington and dwindling diplomatic options saw India reaching out.

Expectations from the talks were modest.

"Nothing has come out of these talks, nothing was supposed to come out," political columnist Cho Ramaswamy said.

"Whether there is going to be another round of talks depends on the amount of friendly pressure Americans put on both sides."

The talks in New Delhi come amid a foreboding sense in India that the bombing of a popular bakery in the western city of Pune this month, which killed at least 16 people, may herald more attacks.

A second attack like Mumbai could shake what has so far proved to be a resilient Indian economy
 
Rivals India, Pakistan agree to "keep in touch"

The first official talks between India and Pakistan since the 2008 Mumbai attacks ended on Thursday with only an agreement to "keep in touch," signalling that relations between the nuclear-armed rivals remain frosty.

The meeting also marks a tiny step in improving the outlook for stability in Afghanistan, where India and Pakistan have long battled for influence, complicating regional security, but many obstacles remain.

The two nations' top diplomats met in a former princely palace in a heavily guarded New Delhi neighbourhood and agreed to "remain in touch" to build trust with each other.

"We went into today's talks with an open mind but fully conscious of the limitations imposed by the large trust deficit between the two countries," Indian Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao said after talks with her Pakistani counterpart, Salman Bashir.

"In line with our graduated and step by step approach, our aims were modest."

Neither diplomat said if there would be a next round of talks, though the prime ministers of the two countries have an opportunity to meet at a regional summit in Bhutan in April.

Rao, wearing a black and red sari, and Bashir, in a dark suit, shook hands in front of the cameras before walking into a sprawling room for discussions.

The two countries did not appear to agree on which subjects should be covered in the talks; India wanted to focus on terrorism while Pakistan eyed the disputed Himalayan region of Kashmir that has been the cause of two of their three wars.

"We don't like to be sermoned on the issue of terrorism; we know what it means," Bashir said, adding 5,366 Pakistani civilians had been killed in militant attacks since 2008.

"From Pakistan's perspective the core issue that has troubled Pakistan-India relations is the issue of Jammu and Kashmir...and any effort to be dismissive of this issue will not be healthy."

Kashmir, which India and Pakistan claim in full but rule in part, remains at the heart of their dispute. India accuses Pakistan of abetting a 20-year revolt in Indian Kashmir. Pakistan says it only gives moral support.

EVIDENCE HANDED OVER

Bashir also criticized India's role in Afghanistan, saying the country was being used to supply weapons and funds to militants to destabilize Pakistan. New Delhi denies this.

India broke off talks after the Mumbai attacks, saying dialogue could resume only if Pakistan acted against militants on its soil. It blamed the attacks, which killed 166 people and derailed a four-year-long peace process, on Pakistan-based militants.

India handed three new dossiers of evidence to the Pakistani delegation on Thursday, including one on Hafiz Saeed, the rabble-rousing head of the Lashkar-e-Taiba militant group blamed for the Mumbai killings.

Bashir said he would look into the fresh dossiers, but dismissed earlier evidence India supplied against Saeed as more "literature than evidence."

Re-engaging Pakistan was a politically fraught move for New Delhi, given strong Indian public opinion against talks, but a nudge from Washington and dwindling diplomatic options saw India reaching out.

Expectations from the talks were modest.

"Nothing has come out of these talks, nothing was supposed to come out," political columnist Cho Ramaswamy said.

"Whether there is going to be another round of talks depends on the amount of friendly pressure Americans put on both sides."

The talks in New Delhi come amid a foreboding sense in India that the bombing of a popular bakery in the western city of Pune this month, which killed at least 16 people, may herald more attacks.

A second attack like Mumbai could shake what has so far proved to be a resilient Indian economy
 
That's the most ridiculous statement. Wasn't he complaining about India sticking to Mumbai and Terror topics? Until the terror issue is properly addressed, India aint talking about Kashmir. When did Kashmir creep up now?

Peace full dialogue were never into favour of India.
Because if India really wants peace to Pakistan, then your huge Indian
must STOP presenting huge propaganda against Pakistan. Wich is India probably well know to make propaganda against Pakistan all the time.

I myself feel that India is a biggest enemy of Pakistan than any other.
 
Why India is not willing to have dialogue with Pakistan, when Pak says that we can discuss all the matter via peace full dialogue. But India as usual always denies to go ahead for dialogue with Pak.

If you want peace then come to the table and talk like man.
Not just to hide away all the time and keep cry like little babies and seek the world sympathy against Pakistan.

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Bashir is a terrible Diplomat as far as I can see it.... He looked very desperate in front of the media....

He is a Jiyala of PPP.
His performace says it all. during his charge indians foreign ministry have crushed Pakistan on baseless rehtorics, while Pakistan army has given solid proofs of indian - TTP - BLA links to him.
he failed to express Pakistan's position at any international forum / media.
I hate to say KL bill draft went unchecked by him.
 
Simple fact is that you cant reply without personal attacks. Can you not stick to the topic instead of writing how frustrated I am, foolish, etc.

:wave: Second time lucky ... Reported.

Whatever.....next time try understanding posts and replying with facts and not ignorant rants so tht others might not think of u as ignorant or childish
 
A second Pakistan Army Major has also been named by India in the new dossiers that were handed over to Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir during the talks on Thursday with his Indian counterpart Nirupama Rao.

Major Samir Ali is the second Army officer that India says was involved in 26/11, though it's still not clear whether he's a serving officer or retired.

The other officer named is Major Iqbal. He is the first serving Pakistani Major to be named by India.

India also wants Pakistan to hand over JuD chief Hafiz Saeed and access to Al-Qaida commander Ilyas Kashmiri, the man named by David Headley as his guru.

New Delhi has also asked for the five accused already in Pakistani custody to be handed over in the 26/11 case, along with three suspects, including Muzamil, Abu Hamza, Usman and Abu Kafa.

The dossiers say Pakistan has given sanctuary to 17 Indian Mujahideen and seven Khalistani militants.

India names two Pakistani army officers in 26/11
 
A second Pakistan Army Major has also been named by India in the new dossiers that were handed over to Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir during the talks on Thursday with his Indian counterpart Nirupama Rao.

Major Samir Ali is the second Army officer that India says was involved in 26/11, though it's still not clear whether he's a serving officer or retired.

The other officer named is Major Iqbal. He is the first serving Pakistani Major to be named by India.

India also wants Pakistan to hand over JuD chief Hafiz Saeed and access to Al-Qaida commander Ilyas Kashmiri, the man named by David Headley as his guru.

New Delhi has also asked for the five accused already in Pakistani custody to be handed over in the 26/11 case, along with three suspects, including Muzamil, Abu Hamza, Usman and Abu Kafa.

The dossiers say Pakistan has given sanctuary to 17 Indian Mujahideen and seven Khalistani militants.

India names two Pakistani army officers in 26/11
If India wants hand over game, then next Pakistan might ask for Samjhota express culprits...its never ending story, India need to work in sensible manner..
 
If India wants hand over game, then next Pakistan might ask for Samjhota express culprits...its never ending story, India need to work in sensible manner..

I expected to senior member to be better informed. Seems you are stuck to 2008 december news.
 
Why India is not willing to have dialogue with Pakistan, when Pak says that we can discuss all the matter via peace full dialogue. But India as usual always denies to go ahead for dialogue with Pak.

India is not willing. Let's see. Who called Pakistan. Who went bus to Pakistan.

If you want peace then come to the table and talk like man.
Not just to hide away all the time and keep cry like little babies and seek the world sympathy against Pakistan.


Rant.
What does it take to talk like man? BTW, our foreign secretary is a woman.
 
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