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Indira Gandhi helped train Tamil rebels, and reaped whirlwind

henry kissinger called her "horrible witch"

Yeah he did not have the balls to say that to an Indian on his face whereas in 2001 Some American cowboy threatened your president to send your country back to stone age .

This is the difference between India and Pakistan and always will be.

Being called a witch behind your back is so much better than the latter.:coffee:
 
India needs strong leaders like Indira Gandhi.

Our neighbours, though, would be praying for something otherwise.
 
alright, has india officially apologized to Sri Lanka yet or not? how about the successful story of supporting non state actor mukti bani ?

You are forgetting the atrocities committed by the sinhalese against tamils which was the root cause of all this mess...so when are you going to ask the sri lankan gov to apologize? as far as east pakistan have you ever asked why millions of east pakistanis fled to india in the first place? you are no saint so stop acting like one.
 
Lol, we don't give a damn what some outsiders thinks about her. Whatever she did was right for India and we love her for that.
 
Fool that had to do with 9/11 and the deputy secretary of state denied he made that remark, so the coward is scared to be honest or simply denies it...
 
Sikhs in Hind have a name for Indira, "Indira Ran**". So even Hinds make insults against her, not just outsiders.
 
why should we apologize. She did that to keep US out of sri lanka. If you want USA in srilanka change your profile picture.
She succeeded in that. Poor imran khan is sitting in sunlight to achieve the same thing without any use.
 
Fool that had to do with 9/11 and the deputy secretary of state denied he made that remark, so the coward is scared to be honest or simply denies it...

Ofcourse he would deny it to the media . why would he accept he used such unparliamentary language with the head of a state ?

Mussharaf admitted himself on television this statement was made. He wasn't embarassed to admit , why are you ?
 
and the witch knew her business well. She was solid spoiled all their plans. No new leaders come to mind who can stand up to USA like that. She did what was strategically right for india. Breaking pakistan permanently was one such. She was a great leader. I wish all countries have such good leaders.

ahaan, so if funding and providing largesse to non-state terrorist groups was okay at that time --and if doing said activities is analagous to ''knowing business well'' then it's funny to look to indians today who constantly bıtch and have post menstrual-like syndromes about Pakistan's yet-to-be-proven support for non-state actors :)
 
Supporting LTTE was wrong but we have helped sri lanka against the LTTE for more than last 15 years . Even sri lankan presidents have admitted this , but if some sri lankans are not willing to accept this fact then do hell with them ! We too suffered losses in war against LTTE and apart from that there was always risk of alienating our own Tamils
 
Yeah he did not have the balls to say that to an Indian on his face whereas in 2001 Some American cowboy threatened your president to send your country back to stone age .

This is the difference between India and Pakistan and always will be.

Being called a witch behind your back is so much better than the latter.:coffee:

The difference is Hindustanis have been conquered by many civilizations and were conquered by Muslims for a thousand years. Only recently in the timeline of history are you independent before then you were ruled by various Muslim empires.


You were bashed by Timur and Nadir Shah, and you were ruled and conquered by Mughals and persecuted by Aurangzeb the man who ruled your forefathers and protected some.



Now that is the difference. Don't try and act like you Hindustanis are some vegetarian warriors. Understand? If you had kept shut I wouldn't have brought history up and embarrassed you.
 
he actually went nuts on how she outwitted him on pakistan invasion.

Nixon on Indira Gandhi: This Woman Suckered Us…
Posted on 03 March 2010

New Delhi: “She suckered us. Suckered us…..this woman suckered us.” So said an enraged US president Richard Nixon of Indian prime minister Indira Gandhi after learning that war had broken out on the subcontinent on Dec 3, 1971, and Indian forces had made a decisive push towards then East Pakistan that it recognised as Bangladesh three days later.

Nixon, who had met Gandhi just a month earlier in Washington, had sought assurances from her that India would not take any precipitate military action pending efforts by the US to find a political solution that would not “shatter the cohesion of West Pakistan” and end up “overthrowing President Yahya (Khan)” who was pivotal to America’s China initiative afer 22 years of diplomatic freeze.

Nixon had then made it clear to Mrs Gandhi that “nothing could be served by the disintegration of Pakistan” and even warned darkly that “it would be impossible to calculate with precision the steps which other great powers might take if India were to initiate hostilities”.

Nixon’s presentations were heard with “aloof indifference” by Mrs Gandhi, Secretary of State Henry Kissinger was quoted as telling author Kalyani Shankar in her just published book “Nixon, Indira and India – Politics and Beyond (Macmillan/Rs. 445).

Nixon’s frustration at not being able to make Mrs Gandhi back off from war reflected in his telephone conversation with Kissinger on Dec 6. Almost fumbling for words without breaking into expletives at the turn of the situation in the subcontinent at a time when Yahya Khan’s propping up was imperative for American foreign policy interests, Nixon wondered if he was “too easy on that goddamn woman when she was here”.

Even as Kissinger tried to pacify a fuming president by saying he was only following advice to be “gracious” to a visiting dignitary, Nixon agreed at one point with Kissinger that he should have probably “brutalised” her and followed up by threatening: “But let me tell you she is going to pay. She is going to pay.”

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Nixon even asked Kissinger whether the Chinese would make threatening moves towards India. But the Chinese, much to the chagrin of the Americans did not agree to “intimidate the Indians”, as the author points out, because the Chinese thought that “independence for East Pakistan was a foregone conclusion.

“It (China) was prepared to endorse UN proposal for a standstill ceasefire and forgo a demand for mutual troop withdrawal,” the book states.

When even the Soviets refused to put pressure on New Delhi for a ceasefire, Nixon ordered the Seventh Fleet into the Indian Ocean in a threatening gesture. The Fleet, consisting of an aircraft carrier and four destroyers, was to move towards Karachi with the publicly stated aim that they would stand by for “possible evacuation” of Americans although the intention was to browbeat India in case the government in New Delhi did not agree to an immediate ceasefire and withdrawal.

India did finally agree to a ceasefire, but that was only on Dec 17 after Indian forces marched into Dhaka (then Dacca). There was a ceasefire also in the west with India assuring that it had no desire to seize the territory of West Pakistan, an assurance it delivered to Washington via Moscow.

The book provides a fascinating insight for foreign policy researchers into the Nixon era and his famous tilt towards Pakistan based on now declassified ’top-secret’ documents and top-level telephone transcripts pertaining to Nixon’s visit to India in 1969 and Mrs Gandhi’s visit to Washington in 1971 that were obtained from the United States National Archives and the National Security Archives.
 
I wonder why the world sit so quiet about Indian terrorist activities. Indra was a terrorist who planned to snatch the whole south asia through terrorist activities. Terrorist infiltrated into east-Pakistan, terrorist infiltrated into Sri Lanka and god knows where not.

Such tactics only goes to show than india is blinded with ambitions of expansionism and hence cannot be trusted in any diplomatic affairs.
 
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