India's most advanced ballistic missile

[Kinetic]

Which one is India's most advanced BM? So far I was thinking it was Agni-5 but after going through the specs of K-4, I think its the most advanced.

Agni-V

Weight 50,000 kg
Length 17.5 m
Diameter 2 metres
Warhead Nuclear
Warhead weight 1,500 kilograms
Engine Three stage solid fuel
Operational range Over 5,000 kilometres Upto 8,000 kilometres


K-4

Weight 17,000 kg
Length 12 m
Diameter 1.3 metres
Warhead Nuclear
Warhead weight 2000 kilograms
Engine Three stage solid fuel
Operational range Over 3500 kilometres

 

[Omega007]

Which one is India's most advanced BM? So far I was thinking it was Agni-5 but after going through the specs of K-4, I think its the most advanced.

Agni-V

Weight 50,000 kg
Length 17.5 m
Diameter 2 metres
Warhead Nuclear
Warhead weight 1,500 kilograms
Engine Three stage solid fuel
Operational range Over 5,000 kilometres Upto 8,000 kilometres


K-4

Weight 17,000 kg
Length 12 m
Diameter 1.3 metres
Warhead Nuclear
Warhead weight 2000 kilograms
Engine Three stage solid fuel
Operational range Over 3500 kilometres

Conclusion seems right,K4 is most advanced so far,along with the Agni 4.

 

[HariPrasad]

Which one is India's most advanced BM? So far I was thinking it was Agni-5 but after going through the specs of K-4, I think its the most advanced.

Agni-V

Weight 50,000 kg
Length 17.5 m
Diameter 2 metres
Warhead Nuclear
Warhead weight 1,500 kilograms
Engine Three stage solid fuel
Operational range Over 5,000 kilometres Upto 8,000 kilometres


K-4

Weight 17,000 kg
Length 12 m
Diameter 1.3 metres
Warhead Nuclear
Warhead weight 2000 kilograms
Engine Three stage solid fuel
Operational range Over 3500 kilometres

Weight of AV is not 50 ton.

K4 with low weight and high warhead carrying capability with shaped trajectory is the most advance Surface to surface missile india has. K4 may not be called a ballistics missile.

 

[AyanRay]

Saraswat, the former DRDO chief had said Agni series of missiles are made of older tech. Though it does not affect its accuracy in any way, but reduces the per unit cost to a very large extent. Though it also resulted in much higher weight.
The K series missiles incorporates the latest tech, hence I suppose, the cost will also be much higher. Though accuracy of both missiles will be the same.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Can u post Agni V and K4 pics for comparison.

 

[HariPrasad]

Saraswat, the former DRDO chief had said Agni series of missiles are made of older tech. Though it does not affect its accuracy in any way, but reduces the per unit cost to a very large extent. Though it also resulted in much higher weight.
The K series missiles incorporates the latest tech, hence I suppose, the cost will also be much higher. Though accuracy of both missiles will be the same.

Sorry, it all changed since the Agni IV, A IV has marely a weight of 17 tons and it travels 4000 KM. Av was conceptualized as 50 ton missile but weight was reduced to 26 tons. Weight of AIII was reduced to 22 tons. Agni series uses little bit out dated fuel but it is very cheap. Highly efficient motor compensates for little outdated fuel. That is why A V have mach 24 velocity in its terminal Phase.

K-4 payload is 1000kgs. There is typo on wikipedia.

One article on PDf said that K4 has a 2 tons weight and scientist aims almost Zero CEP in next stage.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Can u post Agni V and K4 pics for comparison.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Lower pics not visible just a smoke

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Lower pics not visible just a smoke

Agni 5

K4 SLBM

 

[HariPrasad]

Can u post Agni V and K4 pics for comparison.

K4 Emerging from sea.

 

[Omega007]

Sorry, it all changed since the Agni IV, A IV has marely a weight of 17 tons and it travels 4000 KM. Av was conceptualized as 50 ton missile but weight was reduced to 26 tons.Weight of AIII was reduced to 22 tons.

True,if Madam Tessy Thomas is to be believed.The quoted weight of 50 ton was combined weight of the missile and launch vehicles.

Agni series uses little bit out dated fuel but it is very cheap. Highly efficient motor compensates for little outdated fuel. That is why A V have mach 24 velocity in its terminal Phase.

That's the reentry velocity,which is reduced somewhat when the warheads reenters the atmosphere due to atmospheric drag. @The Deterrent

One article on PDS said that K4 has a 2 tons weight and scientist aims almost Zero CEP in next stage.

Near zero CEP would be an awesome goal to achieve but I don't think that's necessary because these missiles are not meant for conventional strikes.Even a 100 meter CEP won't make any difference when we are talking about 300 kt boosted fission devices!!

 

[HariPrasad]

True,if Madam Tessy Thomas is to be believed.The quoted weight of 50 ton was combined weight of the missile and launch vehicles.

Why condition. Madam is to be believed always.

That's the reentry velocity,which is reduced somewhat when the warheads reenters the atmosphere due to atmospheric drag. @The Deterrent

Terminal Velocity is a function and accumulated result of kinetic energy generated by all previous stages.

Near zero CEP would be an awesome goal to achieve but I don't think that's necessary because these missiles are not meant for conventional strikes.Even a 100 meter CEP won't make any difference when we are talking about 300 kt boosted fission devices!!

A V second test witnessed an unprecedented accuracy of Single digit. That might have given scientist some confidence to test it with high accuracy.

Scenario has changed now and US has equiped its long range and ICBMS with very high explosive non nuclear warhead. Even Avinash chander in one of Interview told that india understands the importance of using the high explosive warhead in long range missile and that is why they are trying to make their long rane missile pin pointedly accurate.

 

[migflug]

True,if Madam Tessy Thomas is to be believed.The quoted weight of 50 ton was combined weight of the missile and launch vehicles.


That's the reentry velocity,which is reduced somewhat when the warheads reenters the atmosphere due to atmospheric drag. @The Deterrent


Near zero CEP would be an awesome goal to achieve but I don't think that's necessary because these missiles are not meant for conventional strikes.Even a 100 meter CEP won't make any difference when we are talking about 300 kt boosted fission devices!!

I read somewhere its empty weight of agni v and 4 without fuel.

 

[Omega007]

Why condition. Madam is to be believed always.

Well,I wan't applying any conditions,merely mentioning the source of that information in case anyone didn't know.Otherwise,there is nothing to disbelief her words.

Terminal Velocity is a function and accumulated result of kinetic energy generated by all previous stages.

That I know,that's why the ones that has got higher apogee also achieves higher reentry velocities but the terminal velocity is somewhat reduced,or so I've heard.

A V second test witnessed an unprecedented accuracy of Single digit. That might have given scientist some confidence to test it with high accuracy.

That I know and I'm not disputing this.All I'm saying that when you are sending a fuckking 300kt boosted fission device down range,then a distance of a mere 50 or even a 100 meter won't make any noteworthy difference as to the what would become of your target after the blast!!

Scenario has changed now and US has equiped its long range and ICBMS with very high explosive non nuclear warhead. Even Avinash chander in one of Interview told that india understands the importance of using the high explosive warhead in long range missile and that is why they are trying to make their long rane missile pin pointedly accurate.

US being US,with all the monetary resources they have got,can indulge into such things but I don't think India can or should follow such a practice,at least for the time being.The use of IRBMs for delivering conventional warheads is a highly wasteful endeavor in terms of cost-benefit ratio,especially when our potential enemies happen to be our very neighbors!!

I read somewhere its empty weight of agni v and 4 without fuel.

I don't think that's a correct assumption,but I can be wrong too.

 

[HariPrasad]

I agree with all of your post but I wold like to add something to your last post.

US being US,with all the monetary resources they have got,can indulge into such things but I don't think India can or should follow such a practice,at least for the time being.The use of IRBMs for delivering conventional warheads is a highly wasteful endeavor in terms of cost-benefit ratio,especially when our potential enemies happen to be our very neighbors!!

Please watch a video of Shree avinash chander in bharat defense kavach .com. He has said this. These are not my words.

I read somewhere its empty weight of agni v and 4 without fuel.

Empty wight of any missile or rocket generally do not exceed 10 to 15 of launch so AV in worst case can not weigh more than 7 tons. According to me its weight will be 3 ton empty.