India's Job Crises - India’s journey from jobless to job-loss growth l Updates, News & Discussion

[jamahir]

For arm you don't to pay any fee even to use or sell the cores. It's their support for which you have to pay.

What kind of support does ARM give ??

ARM is ensuring that riscv is not taking over.

What steps is ARM taking towards this end ??

But with IoT, I think whole processing arena will be shifted to quantum clouds. If local industry also adopted that then bye bye binary processors.

How soon is this ??

But some times I feel that I am just a frog in well, I know shit about the plans of learned elders of technology.

Well, in certain things you certainly know more than me.

 

[fitpOsitive]

What kind of support does ARM give ??
What steps is ARM taking towards this end ??
How soon is this ??
Well, in certain things you certainly know more than me.

ARM is making things free more and more. And certainly people do prefare already tested cores. IoT data processing is shifting towards cloud, and ARM is very active in that. Products are already available. Few examples of quantum cloud, IoT and arm based products.
https://www.sas.com/sas/offers/19/a...qIWJTHgOGPwXO-gNsG0WZLNEoyg8LwWxoCyScQAvD_BwE
https://www.juniper.net/us/en/solut...wA5HdJTFCunTJa-x4WGlxtwXFdGlvtmBoC6j0QAvD_BwE
https://www.quantumcloudai.com/en/index.html
@Hamartia Antidote one question, in your opinion, how likely is that the whole binary arena might be wiped out by quantum?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

ARM is making things free more and more. And certainly people do prefare already tested cores. IoT data processing is shifting towards cloud, and ARM is very active in that. Products are already available. Few examples of quantum cloud, IoT and arm based products.
https://www.sas.com/sas/offers/19/a...qIWJTHgOGPwXO-gNsG0WZLNEoyg8LwWxoCyScQAvD_BwE
https://www.juniper.net/us/en/solutions/iot/?cid=701C0000001MHER&utm_campaign=EMEA_ECT_AMW_18H2_DE__Google-Adwords-ECT&utm_medium=sem&utm_source=google&utm_content=Dot-Net_Smart-Cloud-Integration_Solution_A0_0_Solutions&utm_term=cloud iot_p_m_300713938228_9042188_1t1&gclid=CjwKCAiA_MPuBRB5EiwAHTTvMQll-sv-52i_JhBUudtZGNwA5HdJTFCunTJa-x4WGlxtwXFdGlvtmBoC6j0QAvD_BwE
https://www.quantumcloudai.com/en/index.html
@Hamartia Antidote one question, in your opinion, how likely is that the whole binary arena might be wiped out by quantum?

Computers are moving back to the days of dumb terminals connecting to big mainframes in a refrigerated basement. Except these basements are owned by Amazon and a few other companies. Think PDF is on a server in Webmaster's basement...well think again.

Many companies have already thrown away the idea of buying their employees an expensive desktop which tends to get out sync with desktops they bought only two years before causing a IT Support nightmare of driver and OS upgrades. With connection speeds increasing they just buy a cheapo computer that has enough power to run an AWS desktop. Everybody connects into the same virtual desktop with the same machine specs and upgrading everybody is a breeze. It's so fast now you forget you are on a computer a thousand miles away.

Soon Quantum computers will be an option for an AWS desktop. Now you get power with the click of a button.

Maybe even temporary. Amazon gives you a free offer to test out a Quantum desktop for a day. Maybe I need Quantum computers for 20 people for say only a week..with a press of the button you get it. Real convenient. Why would somebody ever buy a high end desktop again?

With 5G the same may happen with phones.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Computers are moving back to the days of dumb terminals connecting to big mainframes in a refrigerated basement. Except these basements are owned by Amazon and a few other companies. Think PDF is on a server in Webmaster's basement...well think again.

Many companies have already thrown away the idea of buying their employees an expensive desktop which tends to get out sync with desktops they bought only two years before causing a IT Support nightmare of driver and OS upgrades. With connection speeds increasing they just buy a cheapo computer that has enough power to run an AWS desktop. Everybody connects into the same virtual desktop with the same machine specs and upgrading everybody is a breeze. It's so fast now you forget you are on a computer a thousand miles away.

Soon Quantum computers will be an option for an AWS desktop. Now you get power with the click of a button.

Maybe even temporary. Amazon gives you a free offer to test out a Quantum desktop for a day. Maybe I need a Quantum computers for 20 people for say only a week..with a press of the button you get it. Real convenient. Why would somebody ever buy a high end desktop again?

With 5G the same may happen with phones.

I also experienced something similar. Previously mentor and cadence were offering lifetime licences. But now they sell it for per month basis. Pay it, get it, use it, forget it.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

India’s journey from jobless to job-loss growth
Sneha Alexander
India’s economic growth has moved from not just being a jobless regime but to being a ‘job-loss’ one, suggests new research. In a study published in the Economic and Political Weekly, K.P. Kannan and G. Raveendran break down the latest Periodic Labour Force Survey (PLFS) findings to suggest that the Indian economy is losing its ability to absorb new entrants to the work-force with less-educated rural women suffering the most.

Combining historical National Sample Survey (NSS) employment data with the recently-released PLFS survey, the authors find that the ability of the Indian economy to absorb its growing working-age population has been steadily decreasing. In 2004-05, 58% of the population entering the workforce in the previous two decades were absorbed into the workforce but by 2011-12 this figure had fallen to 15% in 2011-12. In 2017-18, this figure turned negative (-5%) suggesting that some of the working-age population actually left the workforce. And all this has happened even while India recorded positive aggregate growth.

They estimate that the economy lost 6.2 million jobs between 2011-12 and 2017-18. Breaking down jobs by location, gender, education and sectors, they find that it was mostly the less educated (below secondary level) who lost jobs. Within this cohort, it was rural women who suffered the most (rural women's employment fell by 24.7 million).

Sectoral analysis of the data shows that the net job loss stems from losses in sectors such as agriculture, quarrying, mining and manufacturing. Taken together, job losses in these sectors accounted for 95% of the total job loss. According to the authors, this jobs crisis is a result of several structural and policy failures in agriculture, rural-to-urban migration and education.

Also read: From Jobless to Job-loss Growth: Gainers and Losers during 2012–18

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According to indians on PDF, india is a superpower greater than China.........

 

[Nilgiri]

So, Unions cannot guarantee profit, they can only try and preserve the jobs or ask for hikes.

Are you saying IBM and Microsoft do not layoff it's employees? They do far more than us, it happens daily. We have poor labor laws that makes it hard to fire someone.

What am I even reading here on this thread LOL. Low Capex industry needs even more unionisation to create more jobs? Commies I tell ya...

And then the CGI brochure pole vaulter trying selling its snake oil to the gullible again. Yes the lack of intellectual output at world references (patent offices, science output you name it) must be ignored and dismissed alongside actual realised service export data....random blog noise stronk.

 

[Han Patriot]

. A company at the fair offered her a customer service position that would pay about $140 a month.

140 bucks, you must be fcking kidding me. This is the so called Indian middle class?

 

[Chhatrapati]

What am I even reading here on this thread LOL. Low Capex industry needs even more unionisation to create more jobs? Commies I tell ya...

And then the CGI brochure pole vaulter trying selling its snake oil to the gullible again. Yes the lack of intellectual output at world references (patent offices, science output you name it) must be ignored and dismissed alongside actual realised service export data....random blog noise stronk.

Suffering creates commies and Utopian ideas, commies create more suffering the cycle goes on.

I chose to ignore that flag in these threads, new IT power with IT parks around every corner with so many rides.

 

[jamahir]

Suffering creates commies and Utopian ideas, commies create more suffering the cycle goes on.

Ha ha, funny guy.

Low Capex industry needs even more unionisation to create more jobs? Commies I tell ya...

Unions in IT / ITES industry will not create more jobs but they will ensure that the current employees do not face unfair behavior from the company's side. Personal experience.

 

[Nilgiri]

Unions in IT / ITES industry will not create more jobs but they will ensure that the current employees do not face unfair behavior from the company's side. Personal experience.

"Unfair behaviour" addressing is best left to other govt institutions (and incumbent on improving those institutions).

Labour unions are very specific as to why they have a role....w.r.t workforce bargaining power and reference setting:

1) With high capex in a sector (relative to opex), a case can start to be made for labour unions (but very specifically) given OSHA argument mostly...and then safeguard that specific protection internationally (say from countries that do not have equivalent standard).

2) Having a freewheeling windmill of labour to simply service the machines...there is also argument to put restriction on ease of that happening given social cost and especially to stop toxic luddite thought patterns from entrenching into a social psychosis at large that will affect the country greatly like other forms of irrational extreme reactionary insulation.

However when something is simply fully opex and service based and needs high frequency competitive input as a result, labour unions are a surefire way to completely deflate and destroy the industry. Literally the most unproductive cretins will entrench and spread like cancer.....opex service industry is a full 100% transparency, and would be especially sensitive to it (dry kindling to sparks) unlike capital intensive or capital balanced industries.

 

[jamahir]

"Unfair behaviour" addressing is best left to other govt institutions (and incumbent on improving those institutions).

Which government institutions are you talking about ??

1) With high capex in a sector (relative to opex), a case can start to be made for labour unions (but very specifically) given OSHA argument mostly...and then safeguard that specific protection internationally (say from countries that do not have equivalent standard).

2) Having a freewheeling windmill of labour to simply service the machines...there is also argument to put restriction on ease of that happening given social cost and especially to stop toxic luddite thought patterns from entrenching into a social psychosis at large that will affect the country greatly like other forms of irrational extreme reactionary insulation.

However when something is simply fully opex and service based and needs high frequency competitive input as a result, labour unions are a surefire way to completely deflate and destroy the industry. Literally the most unproductive cretins will entrench and spread like cancer.....opex service industry is a full 100% transparency, and would be especially sensitive to it (dry kindling to sparks) unlike capital intensive or capital balanced industries.

Can you rewrite this in more simple language ?? I am unable to understand this MBA language.

 

[Nilgiri]

Which government institutions are you talking about ??

Where does a citizen go when there is unfairness and injustice on ground w.r.t what is written in Indian constitution? There is your answer.

Best improve that rather than form exclusionary bargaining mobs like unions everywhere (instead of where they actually have some precise utility) that will simply destroy this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1196722028591472640

https://twitter.com/x/status/1196698875777732608

@Chhatrapati

Can you rewrite this in more simple language ?? I am unable to understand this MBA language.

Sorry its about as simple as can be put. You can google anything you want inside it if you want to ask something specific.

 

[Umar Nazir]

over population is the main reason, almost 60% population of both India and Pakistan aged less than 25. In coming years they will be coming in Job Market which already over burden in both countries.

 

[xyxmt]

Hah !! These IT industry employees want to create employee unions now !!

I worked in an ITES company from 2013 to 2014 and almost created an union. The mistake I did was to resign. If I had not resigned, by now I could have been the leader of a federation of IT / ITES employee unions of India. Missed opportunity.

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@Indos

remember what happened to Hoffa

 

[jamahir]

remember what happened to Hoffa

His disappearance you mean ??