India's defense exports hit $1.6 billion in May 2019, aims for $5 billions in 2021

[Cobra Arbok]

I see. So if India supply tech support to US military. It count as an export.

Or Are these only value added components exported to US and EU for military equipment that India have planned to purchase?

If it earns India money, that is the only thing that matters. And India's defense industry is growing and becoming more profitable. Recently at SCO India announced a 200 billion dollar credit line to Kyrgyztan that includes defense exports.

 

[faithfulguy]

If it earns India money, that is the only thing that matters. And India's defense industry is growing and becoming more profitable. Recently at SCO India announced a 200 billion dollar credit line to Kyrgyztan that includes defense exports.

India can extend as much credit line as it want. But India can’t make jack. India can’t even make a decent rifle.

Oops, I take that back. India does make Brahmos, a down graded, export version of a Russian missile.

 

[Han Patriot]

If it earns India money, that is the only thing that matters. And India's defense industry is growing and becoming more profitable. Recently at SCO India announced a 200 billion dollar credit line to Kyrgyztan that includes defense exports.

200 billion$? what are you smoking jose..=)

 

[JohnWick]

Well that's interesting....

 

[BATMAN]

Please give me the list idiot idiot countries, which buy use less Indian defense products, which not even Indians buy.

 

[Indx-techs]

India can extend as much credit line as it want. But India can’t make jack. India can’t even make a decent rifle.

No matter what how much standard you put for decency, Indian rifles and weapons are very much in service with Indian Armed Forces.

Case is different that the requirement of standard for Indian Army is different.

There's a gap between what India produces and what India needs.
Still our defence imports in percentage are falling every year, while exports are rising exponentially.

Oops, I take that back. India does make Brahmos, a down graded, export version of a Russian missile.

We make a lot lot more. This thread just work up more butthurts on echo chamber apparently throughout both pages.

Let me inform you for China, out of $10 billions military exports of China, $7-8 billions are to Pakistan only because it can't afford better.

Please give me the list idiot idiot countries, which buy use less Indian defense products, which not even Indians buy.

Not for Indian products, but a similar example with Chinese FC-1 Xiaolong/JFT.

It's obsolete by India standards even obsolete against IOC version of Tejas what IAF rejected.

 

[BATMAN]

Not for Indian products, but a similar example with Chinese FC-1 Xiaolong/JFT.

It's obsolete by India standards even obsolete against IOC version of Tejas what IAF rejected.

 

[Indx-techs]

Didn't ask for your shenanigan. There is a reason why PLAAF doesn't operate JFT. JFT is being purchased because Pakistan can't afford better.

If you actually got any point to prove me wrong, welcome. But by default, Pakistan is behind even in standards and far behind industrial capabilities.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

If you actually got any point to prove me wrong, welcome. But by default, Pakistan is behind even in standards and far behind industrial capabilities.

Lol!! From the horse mouth...


Pakistan defence industrial base better than ours: Indian Army vice chief
Lt. Gen. Sarath Chand, Vice Chief of Army Staff (VCOAS)


https://indianexpress.com/article/i...ase-better-than-ours-army-vice-chief-4766949/


https://www.dawn.com/news/1347774

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1467064/pakistan-better-military-industrial-base-india-indian-vcoas/

 

[Indx-techs]

Lol!! From the horse mouth...


Pakistan defence industrial base better than ours: Indian Army vice chief
Lt. Gen. Sarath Chand, Vice Chief of Army Staff (VCOAS)


https://indianexpress.com/article/i...ase-better-than-ours-army-vice-chief-4766949/


https://www.dawn.com/news/1347774

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1467064/pakistan-better-military-industrial-base-india-indian-vcoas/

His statement doesn't back your point. It was at a time when Indian defence exports were in total shambles. It was rather to motivate people. Neither he was specific in his statement nor your link specified "where it's better".

List me up the technologies and production capacities, private and state vendors. I will not ask for R&D as Pakistan doesn't spend on it.
Indian shopping list includes large warships, great number of planes and so on.
Just specify a substantial number of techs what Pakistan makes and India doesn't before I do.

1. Military shipuilding
2. Aircraft subsystems and components
3. Missile susbsytsems and components
4. Radars, Sonars & TR modules
5. Missile subsystems and components
6. Total exports
7. Share of global aerospace market
8. R&D on strategic techs

Add up quite a few more and let me know where Pakistan is better.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Please give me the list idiot idiot countries, which buy use less Indian defense products, which not even Indians buy.

Maldives, Mauritius, Nepal, Myanmar, Sir Lanka, Peru, Turkey, Oman, Kyrgyztan, and potentially SE Asian countries and the UAE

200 billion$? what are you smoking jose..=)

My mistake, I meant 200 million. Sorry for the typo

S

Lol!! From the horse mouth...


Pakistan defence industrial base better than ours: Indian Army vice chief
Lt. Gen. Sarath Chand, Vice Chief of Army Staff (VCOAS)


https://indianexpress.com/article/i...ase-better-than-ours-army-vice-chief-4766949/


https://www.dawn.com/news/1347774

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1467064/pakistan-better-military-industrial-base-india-indian-vcoas/

That may be true, but why does India make more money from defense exports?

 

[N.Siddiqui]

List me up the technologies and production capacities, private and state vendors. I will not ask for R&D as Pakistan doesn't spend on it.
Indian shopping list includes large warships, great number of planes and so on.

What Indian VCOAS has said carries more weight than what is said by me and you, what he said encompasses all the things in general, as a blanket statement as he did not get into specifics...he meant overall Pakistan defence industrial base is better than India...that's about it.


Oops!! As a beginner...does India has got MIRV tech??? any link.

https://propakistani.pk/2018/03/12/...th-asia-to-test-the-ultimate-nuclear-missile/

https://herald.dawn.com/news/1153418


https://www.globalvillagespace.com/...-of-indias-s-400-abm-system-akash-s-muhammad/

That may be true, but why does India make more money from defense exports?

https://nation.com.pk/04-Mar-2017/pakistan-eyes-1b-defence-exports-in-two-years

It's rising, the figure for 2019 and 2020 would be higher...

Just specify a substantial number of techs what Pakistan makes and India doesn't before I do.

Here is another which Pakistan has and India doesn't...the tritium tipped tactical nuclear weapons, to check the India cold start doctrine...read more about it here.


https://southasianvoices.org/indias-reluctance-on-tactical-nuclear-weapons/

https://carnegieendowment.org/2016/...apons-and-their-impact-on-stability-pub-63911

https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/07/27/significance-of-pakistans-tactical-nuclear-weapons/

Just specify a substantial number of techs what Pakistan makes and India doesn't before I do.

Here is another, the armed drone tech. India hasn't got any, Pakistan has this tech....don't ask me that this tech. is not indigenous to Pakistan...nothing is indigenous, don't have to reinvent the wheel.


Pakistan is among the handful of countries with armed UAVs. Pakistan's Burraq UAV is capable of carrying two air-to-ground missiles, has a service ceiling of around 15000 feet and an endurance of 8–10 hours. The UAV's operational range is thought to be around 350km through LOS communication.

It is equipped with two ASMs and a laser designator and has a payload capacity of 100kg.

Except the IAI Heron, India has no capable operational UAV to speak of (except quadcopter UAVs) and certainly no armed UAV. This gives Pakistan an edge in UAV technology and while the Burraq is not India-centric, there is nothing stopping Pakistan from using it in a conflict with India where it may be able to destroy Indian posts and keep an eye on troop positions while being a nuisance for the Indians.

 

[Anik101]

Oops!! As a beginner...does India has got MIRV tech??? any link.

Yes....we do have MIRV tech. 3 warhead MIRV was tested onboard Agni3 few years back.Although the information is not in public domain but the insiders know it.

PSLV 4th stage capable of carrying multiple satellites:

MIRV warhead:

Here is another which Pakistan has and India doesn't...the tritium tipped tactical nuclear weapons, to check the India cold start doctrine...

We don't have tactical nukes because our nuclear doctrine is different and we don't need them.

Pakistan is among the handful of countries with armed UAVs. Pakistan's Burraq UAV is capable of carrying two air-to-ground missiles, has a service ceiling of around 15000 feet and an endurance of 8–10 hours. The UAV's operational range is thought to be around 350km through LOS communication.

It is equipped with two ASMs and a laser designator and has a payload capacity of 100kg.

Except the IAI Heron, India has no capable operational UAV to speak of (except quadcopter UAVs) and certainly no armed UAV. This gives Pakistan an edge in UAV technology and while the Burraq is not India-centric, there is nothing stopping Pakistan from using it in a conflict with India where it may be able to destroy Indian posts and keep an eye on troop positions while being a nuisance for the Indians.

Slow flying UCAVs are useless against a country having AD capabilities. Iran recently proved this right. You definitely can use them in CT operations and for survillsurve during peace time but they are useless against India. India has a policy of not using air power against our own people therefore we don't need armed drones in numbers. Also we do have Harpy suicide drones for anti-radiation operations.


As for India

Currently we have around 40 warships under construction in 7 different shipyards across india.

India is one of the few countries capable of developing AESA radar on its own.
Some AESA radar developed by India which are in service with the armed forces:
Arudhra MPR:

Ashwini radar:

Netra AWE&C equipped with L-STAR AESA.

Swordfish radar:

Also due to advancement in our seeker technology we are far ahead in tactical missile development.

We have our own highly capable ground based Electronic Warfare systems like Samyukta.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

What Indian VCOAS has said carries more weight than what is said by me and you, what he said encompasses all the things in general, as a blanket statement as he did not get into specifics...he meant overall Pakistan defence industrial base is better than India...that's about it.


Oops!! As a beginner...does India has got MIRV tech??? any link.

https://propakistani.pk/2018/03/12/...th-asia-to-test-the-ultimate-nuclear-missile/

https://herald.dawn.com/news/1153418


https://www.globalvillagespace.com/...-of-indias-s-400-abm-system-akash-s-muhammad/

I


https://nation.com.pk/04-Mar-2017/pakistan-eyes-1b-defence-exports-in-two-years

It's rising, the figure for 2019 and 2020 would be higher...




Here is another which Pakistan has and India doesn't...the tritium tipped tactical nuclear weapons, to check the India cold start doctrine...read more about it here.


https://southasianvoices.org/indias-reluctance-on-tactical-nuclear-weapons/

https://carnegieendowment.org/2016/...apons-and-their-impact-on-stability-pub-63911

https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2018/07/27/significance-of-pakistans-tactical-nuclear-weapons/



Here is another, the armed drone tech. India hasn't got any, Pakistan has this tech....don't ask me that this tech. is not indigenous to Pakistan...nothing is indigenous, don't have to reinvent the wheel.


Pakistan is among the handful of countries with armed UAVs. Pakistan's Burraq UAV is capable of carrying two air-to-ground missiles, has a service ceiling of around 15000 feet and an endurance of 8–10 hours. The UAV's operational range is thought to be around 350km through LOS communication.

It is equipped with two ASMs and a laser designator and has a payload capacity of 100kg.

Except the IAI Heron, India has no capable operational UAV to speak of (except quadcopter UAVs) and certainly no armed UAV. This gives Pakistan an edge in UAV technology and while the Burraq is not India-centric, there is nothing stopping Pakistan from using it in a conflict with India where it may be able to destroy Indian posts and keep an eye on troop positions while being a nuisance for the Indians.

I am glad to see Pakistan's defense industry is improving, but you didn't answer my question as to why India has had more successes relative to Pakistan in terms of defense exports.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

what is india exporting that is worth millions of dollars?? its over exaggerated figure. maybe 1.5 billion in past 20 years??