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India's Claim of Laser Weapons: Bluff or Threat?

moral of the story,
Probability of the news being true is higher than the nonsense.

your guess is just as good as mine. But why guess unless there is confirmed reports. Wait until the actual, confirm reports before talking about it. otherwise, anyone can speculate anything and its pointless. weapon technology should not be a faith based discussion. Leave that to religious discussions.
 
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may be the countries who already have this technology, do not want others to get one. so, they are not giving real measures.

I don't think that is the case here. To reliably melt through a missile's shell in a reasonable amount of time you will need to have megawatt lasers. If the United States, the current leader in military technology, could achieve the same results with less wattage I'm sure the ABL will be in service already/mounted on smaller aircrafts.

The 100 kw limit is the current barrier for the weaponization of solid state lasers. Once that is achieved we may see smaller aircrafts like the F-35 (non VTOL versions) carrying laser weapons.
 
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your guess is just as good as mine. But why guess unless there is confirmed reports. Wait until the actual, confirm reports before talking about it. otherwise, anyone can speculate anything and its pointless. weapon technology should not be a faith based discussion. Leave that to religious discussions.

there were report that India has static system, but we do not have capability of mobile one. may be because to generate those laser ,one need plenty of energy.Reports were saying that India was working on it and India also got help from Israel who has mobile versions which they are currently using against Hamas and Hizbollah.

but still we do not have capability or still working to convert those static machines in to mobile one.
 
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KALI 5000:

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The Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) has assembled `KALI-5000' is a powerful electron accelerating machine assembled by the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC), Mumbai, which, its scientists say, can potentially be used as a beam weapon.

Bursts of microwaves packed with gigawatts of power (one gigawatt is 1000 million watts) produced by this machine, when aimed at enemy missiles and aircraft, will cripple their electronics systems and computer chips and bring them down.

Today we bring to you the star war weapons designed and developed indigenously in our country.

At a time when missiles are increasingly becoming relevant in modern warfare and when the threat of a pre-emptive nuclear attack from Pakistan is realistic, Kali-5000 is India's answer to any uninvited incoming missiles and planes. Moreover, the beam can also be used to cripple the enemy satellite and UAVs in no time.

According to scientists, ''soft killing`` by high power microwaves has advantages over the so called laser weapon which destroys by drilling holes through metal.

Kali-5000 will be ready for testing by the end of this year, according to Mr P H Ron, head of the accelerator and internal linkpulse power division at Barc and chief designer of India`s first star wars weapon.

However, in the present form India`s beam weapon is too bulky - it weighs 26 tonnes - including tanks containing 12000 litres of oil. Mr Ron said some ''compacting`` was possible. He said Kali (kilo-ampere linear injector) machine was developed for industrial applications and that the defence use was a recent spinoff. He, however, declined to elaborate.

Describing it as a machine ''bordering basic research,`` Atomic Energy Commission Chairman Rajagopalan Chidambaram admitted in an interview that it has military potential. ''There are some technologies we have to be in touch with because they may become useful (later),`` he said.

Development of the Kali machine was mooted in 1985 by Dr Chidambaram, then director of Barc, but work earnestly began in 1989.

Mr Ron said the machine essentially generated pulses of highly energetic electrons. Other components in the machine down the line converted the electrons into flash x-rays (for ultra high-speed photography) or microwaves. The electron beam itself can be used for welding.

The Defence Balistics Research Institute in Chandigarh is already using an x-ray version of Kali to study speed of projectiles.

WORK IN BANGALORE: Another defence institute in Bangalore is using a microwave-producing version of Kali which the scientists use for testing the vulnerability of the electronic systems going into the light combat aircraft under development and designing electrostatic shields to protect them from microwave attack by the enemy.

According to Barc scientists, the Kali machine has for the first time provided India a way to ''harden`` the electronic systems used in satellites and missiles against the deadly internal linkelectromagnetic impulses (Emi) generated by nuclear weapons.

The Emi wrecks havoc by creating internal linkintenseinternal linkelectric field of several thousand volts per centimetre. The electronic components currently used in missiles can withstand fields of Just 300 volts per centimetre.

While the Kali systems built so far are single shot pulse power systems (they produce one burst of microwaves and the next burst comes much later), Kali-5000 is a rapid fire device, and hence its potential as a beam weapon.

According to Barc-published reports, the machine will shoot several thousand bursts of microwaves, each burst lasting for just 60 billionths of a second and packed with a power of about four gigawatts.

The high power microwave pulses travel in a straight line and do not dissipate their energy if the internal linkfrequency falls between three and ten gigahertz.

According to Barc scientists, a microwave power of 150 megawatts has already been demonstrated in earlier versions of Kali
 
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KALI 5000:

image0543041842.jpg

The Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) has assembled `KALI-5000' is a powerful electron accelerating machine assembled by the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC), Mumbai, which, its scientists say, can potentially be used as a beam weapon.

Bursts of microwaves packed with gigawatts of power (one gigawatt is 1000 million watts) produced by this machine, when aimed at enemy missiles and aircraft, will cripple their electronics systems and computer chips and bring them down.

Today we bring to you the star war weapons designed and developed indigenously in our country.

At a time when missiles are increasingly becoming relevant in modern warfare and when the threat of a pre-emptive nuclear attack from Pakistan is realistic, Kali-5000 is India's answer to any uninvited incoming missiles and planes. Moreover, the beam can also be used to cripple the enemy satellite and UAVs in no time.

According to scientists, ''soft killing`` by high power microwaves has advantages over the so called laser weapon which destroys by drilling holes through metal.

Kali-5000 will be ready for testing by the end of this year, according to Mr P H Ron, head of the accelerator and internal linkpulse power division at Barc and chief designer of India`s first star wars weapon.

However, in the present form India`s beam weapon is too bulky - it weighs 26 tonnes - including tanks containing 12000 litres of oil. Mr Ron said some ''compacting`` was possible. He said Kali (kilo-ampere linear injector) machine was developed for industrial applications and that the defence use was a recent spinoff. He, however, declined to elaborate.

Describing it as a machine ''bordering basic research,`` Atomic Energy Commission Chairman Rajagopalan Chidambaram admitted in an interview that it has military potential. ''There are some technologies we have to be in touch with because they may become useful (later),`` he said.

Development of the Kali machine was mooted in 1985 by Dr Chidambaram, then director of Barc, but work earnestly began in 1989.

Mr Ron said the machine essentially generated pulses of highly energetic electrons. Other components in the machine down the line converted the electrons into flash x-rays (for ultra high-speed photography) or microwaves. The electron beam itself can be used for welding.

The Defence Balistics Research Institute in Chandigarh is already using an x-ray version of Kali to study speed of projectiles.

WORK IN BANGALORE: Another defence institute in Bangalore is using a microwave-producing version of Kali which the scientists use for testing the vulnerability of the electronic systems going into the light combat aircraft under development and designing electrostatic shields to protect them from microwave attack by the enemy.

According to Barc scientists, the Kali machine has for the first time provided India a way to ''harden`` the electronic systems used in satellites and missiles against the deadly internal linkelectromagnetic impulses (Emi) generated by nuclear weapons.

The Emi wrecks havoc by creating internal linkintenseinternal linkelectric field of several thousand volts per centimetre. The electronic components currently used in missiles can withstand fields of Just 300 volts per centimetre.

While the Kali systems built so far are single shot pulse power systems (they produce one burst of microwaves and the next burst comes much later), Kali-5000 is a rapid fire device, and hence its potential as a beam weapon.

According to Barc-published reports, the machine will shoot several thousand bursts of microwaves, each burst lasting for just 60 billionths of a second and packed with a power of about four gigawatts.

The high power microwave pulses travel in a straight line and do not dissipate their energy if the internal linkfrequency falls between three and ten gigahertz.

According to Barc scientists, a microwave power of 150 megawatts has already been demonstrated in earlier versions of Kali

The KALI seems to be a microwave weapon and while it is a directed energy weapon it works on different principles than lasers, which thermally heat the target to perform "hard-kills". The KALI seems to go for "soft kills" by disabling the electrical systems aboard missiles/planes.
 
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effective still.....

Correct, and theoretically could operate at lower powers than lasers so more portable units could be created. Since I'm a bit of a nerd I have problems with people categorizing all DEWs as "lasers".
 
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i believe that india is still several years away from deploying a laser to conduct hard kills on missiles and planes. india currently does not have the ability to manufacture several of the subsections of such a system.

maybe by the end of this decade we will witness the first trial of such a system
 
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Wait for Surprises like 74 & 98 N tests, Arihant & Chandrayan. Did anyone believed any of these.. Nopes..then wait n watch..

India is having static capability for Lasers and as mentioned it has been tested on low scales. Then next step is to check for large ranges and then dynamic move. This is how a technology developed and used why to fight on the same.
 
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many people here think laser weapon is just a Bluff....may be they r right...BUT
a little suggestion: u can't say something until you have don't have proof....before india first nuclear test people thought making nuclear bomb is impossible for india. same happened with india first nuclear powered submarine" arihant" and same is happening with india laser weapon or 10000+ km missile. USA scientist could not do it, it doesn't mean we can't do it(same apply for other country).
 
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The DRDO appears to be working on lasers since 1989.....but going by most projects DRDO scientists tend to publicly "announce" their work way too soon....as it is they appear to be ages away from deployment........
 
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25 kilowatts sounds a bit low for an anti-missile laser. Those are usually in the megawatt ranges. Kilowatt lasers are used against ground targets (the U.S. Advanced Tactical Laser is a good example) and even those are in the 100 kilowatt range.

Yeah.. 25kW is just powerful enough to destroy a mortar or artillery shell at a range of 500 meters(Raytheon Laser Area Defense System).
These guys are releasing reports like a 25kW laser to shoot down ballistic missiles at 7 KM range.:woot: Maybe its a reporting error.

The 100 kw limit is the current barrier for the weaponization of solid state lasers. Once that is achieved we may see smaller aircrafts like the F-35 (non VTOL versions) carrying laser weapons.

Already achieved...

Northrop Grumman reported that it got a solid-state laser to fire a beam with a potency of 105.5 kilowatts.
For the ray-gun wing of the military-industrial complex, the 100-kilowatt threshold is a major milestone, marking the entry point to weapons-grade laser weapons. Adding to the appeal is that solid-state lasers are much more compact, and less noxious, than chemical laser systems.
 
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Seriously, i think India should stop advertising every proposed project like this. keep things under wraps and just 'do it'. like we did with PAD and AAD. If we are working on laser weapons, good. Just keep quiet about i and one fine morning, just SHOW the world like China did with ASAT.
 
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