India's Ayni Military base in Tajikistan is Russia-Locked

[Secur]

man u are hard nut to crack.

Either i m not aware of Chinese support to Pakistan in 1965 or u are living in self delusion, sorry i cannot say about 1965, but i wanna ask u the real test of a friend is when it's friend is in dire need of help, where was China in 1971??

Yes, ofcourse, when did i said that Chinese has not helped Pakistan to build it's military or it's nuclear tech.?? the fact is that China has provided Pakistan with weapons which are inferior to what China itself operates, case in being JF-17s to PAF while PLAAF going for J-10s.

& good luck for Beidou, hope it is in the league of GPS/GLONASS, if it is than good for Pakistan armed forces.

Nah , you are talking as if Russia has done exclusive for you ...

Go research the massive help that China provided in the '65 war to Pakistan ... In '71 , they were already in a crisis and not in a position to wage war against both India and Russia ...

China offered J10 to PAF in 2007 ... The only problem is our economy due to the war ...

Well , it covers the majority parts of the subcontinent with new satellites being added ... Yes , it is accurate ...

exactly what he said, J20 not offered, I am sure PAF have competent people to outline and study 5th gen fighter a.c

How can something that it only in the prototype stage be offered to anyone ? ... Can the Russians offer T-50 to any country at the moment ?

India is offered most advanced tech from Russia..While Pakistan is not offered most advanced tech from China(J20,J31,J11 etc)

You are partners in that project ! But how can you get it until the final product is rolled out ? Do you expect to commission T-50 prototype in IAF ?

When those projects go operational , China will surely offer them as it did with J 10 in 2007

 

[humanfirst]

China offered J10 to PAF in 2007 ... The only problem is our economy due to the war ...

China rejected the soft-loan request of pakistan..

 

[DARKY]

Nah , you are talking as if Russia has done exclusive for you ...

Go research the massive help that China provided in the '65 war to Pakistan ... In '71 , they were already in a crisis and not in a position to wage war against both India and Russia ...

China offered J10 to PAF in 2007 ... The only problem is our economy due to the war ...

Well , it covers the majority parts of the subcontinent with new satellites being added ... Yes , it is accurate ...

The same situation they would be in If they attack Tajikistan... both Russia and India in a two front war.... not to mention the fact the US waiting on doorsteps and Taiwan itching to declare independence.... in fact the whole world waits China to do something as stupid as going for a two front war.... and give them a chance to plunder its wealth... and push it in the dark ages of poverty and slavery from where it came... yes China know that very well unlike you.

How can something that it only in the prototype stage be offered to anyone ? ... Can the Russians offer T-50 to any country at the moment ?

T-50 already offered to India.. Vietnam also showed interests.
F-35 too offered in PT stages to different countries.
EF2K also offered.
same with Rafale... and according to you even J-10B or FC-1 is being offered to Pakistan....

What a Fail you have been here.

 

[MilSpec]

Pakistan might have shown interest in J10, but none of the FC20 Variants have been offered to pakistan irrespective of what members like to claim here

Another false claim; PAF is waiting for J10B to mature,
Keep in mind same PAF was more than eager to induct FC1 (claimed to be developed in 5-7 yrs) is hesitant to buy FC20 which has been around for nearly for 15 years now. So jf 17 made by CAC matures in 5 yrs and j10 cannot mature in 12 years... wah

 

[Secur]

China rejected the soft-loan request of pakistan..

Link ?

The same situation they would be in If they attack Tajikistan... both Russia and India in a two front war....

T-50 already offered to India.. Vietnam also showed interests.
F-35 too offered in PT stages to different countries.
EF2K also offered.
same with Rafale... and according to you even J-10B or FC-1 is being offered to Pakistan....

What a Fail you have been here.

They cant sit silently even ...

T-50 offered ? When did that happen ? You are partners in that project right ? Are you buying it before the final version rolls out ? Both Rafale and EF2K are operational ...

Washington: After losing out to the French, the US asserted its F-16 and F-18 fighter jets would have provided India unbeatable platforms with proven technologies, but said it had not offered India more advanced F-35 Joint Strike Fighters (JSF).


http://ibnlive.in.com/news/f16-f18-unbeatable-no-f35-offer-for-india-us/226635-3.html

 

[Secur]

Pakistan might have shown interest in J10, but none of the FC20 Variants have been offered to pakistan irrespective of what members like to claim here

In late-February 2006, the President of Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf, toured the J-10 and JF-17 production facilities during which the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) was offered the J-10,[19] and the purchase of 36 J-10s was approved on 12 April 2006. The J-10s would be modified to Pakistani requirements, and would equip two PAF squadrons from 2014–2015 and be known as the FC-20.[20][21][22]


Research next time !

 

[DARKY]

You are partners in that project ! But how can you get it until the final product is rolled out ? Do you expect to commission T-50 prototype in IAF ?

Yes...

1st FGFA PT or the to be designated Su-50MKI PT would be provided to IAF by 2014.

 

[MilSpec]

In late-February 2006, the President of Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf, toured the J-10 and JF-17 production facilities during which the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) was offered the J-10,[19] and the purchase of 36 J-10s was approved on 12 April 2006. The J-10s would be modified to Pakistani requirements, and would equip two PAF squadrons from 2014–2015 and be known as the FC-20.[20][21][22]


Research next time !

Keep you wiki research to your self, read those references, all pakistani, no neutral source...


and what happened to platform maturity .. you do realise j10 funding started in 1988. still not mature enough...lol

 

[Secur]

Yes...

1st FGFA PT or the to be designated Su-50MKI PT would be provided to IAF by 2014.

Link ? Will it be put in operational service ?

Keep you wiki research to your self, read those references, all pakistani, no neutral source...

Next time you are pawned on an argument , do not go around making childish posts and ridiculing yourself further ... There are International sources too even , if you care to research ... Weren't you just a moment before saying that Pakistan was never offered J 10 ?

 

[Secur]

and what happened to platform maturity .. you do realise j10 funding started in 1988. still not mature enough...lol

I was talking about J10B , not the one in active service in PLAAF which was offered to Pakistan ... Comprehension problems ?

 

[MilSpec]

Link ?



Next time you are pawned on an argument , do not go around making childish posts and ridiculing yourself further ...

Pawned and me.... this is your woven web of nonsense

1> J10 offered by china during musharraf visit,

2> J10 not mature enough

a platform that started in 1988 is not mature enough and a platform that by your own claims was developed with 7 years is acceptable to pakistan ....

and sale of 36 aproved in 2006, how many delivered till date = 0, are you guys trying to get wheat again?

 

[Secur]

Pawned and me.... this is your woven web of nonsense

1> J10 offered by china during musharraf visit,

2> J10 not mature enough

a platform that started in 1988 is not mature enough and a platform that by your own claims was developed with 7 years is acceptable to pakistan ....

Yeah , according to you J 10 was never offered to Pakistan What happened to it ? What happened to entire argument that China never offers its best aircraft to us ? In 2007 , that was the best they had ...

J10B features structure modification too and it is expected to take time ... J 10 A is in active service ...

J-10B: An upgraded variant of the J-10 with new technologies, also known as the "Super-10."[35] The existence of the J-10B is not confirmed by official Chinese sources, but numerous images of a new J-10 variant have surfaced, showing a prototype J-10 modified with increased radar absorbent material, next generation of integrated EW suite, increased composites, new generation avionics, MAW, a diverterless supersonic inlet (DSI), an infra-red search and track (IRST) sensor, modified vertical stabiliser and wings, ventral fins, housings fitted under the wings, upgraded WS-10B engine, next generation of solid-state integrated electronics, and a modified nose with an AESA radar.[36][37] It had its first flight in December 2008.

 

[DARKY]

Link ?



They cant sit silently even ...

T-50 offered ? When did that happen ? You are partners in that project right ? Are you buying it before the final version rolls out ? Both Rafale and EF2K are operational ...

Washington: After losing out to the French, the US asserted its F-16 and F-18 fighter jets would have provided India unbeatable platforms with proven technologies, but said it had not offered India more advanced F-35 Joint Strike Fighters (JSF).


F-16, F-18 unbeatable, no F-35 offer for India: US - India News - IBNLive

Being a partner nation isn't it already offered... or did they offer eggs instead of JF-17 while Pakistan was the partner nation with China of JF-17 project ?

“If India shows interest in the JSF, the USA would be prepared to provide information about it, including its technical characteristics, and other information to support India’s request,” the agency said quoting the report.

US ready to offer F-35 JSF stealth jet to India | Defense | RIA Novosti

“Should India indicate interest in the JSF, the United States would be prepared to provide information on the JSF and its requirements,” including on security and infrastructure, the Defense Department said yesterday in a congressionally mandated report on U.S.-India security cooperation.

Pentagon Awaits India

Too much for Uneducated folk... that's understandable.

 

[MilSpec]

Yeah , according to you J 10 was never offered to Pakistan What happened to it ? What happened to entire argument that China never offers its best aircraft to us ? In 2007 , that was the best they had ...

J10B features structure modification too and it is expected to take time ... J 10 A is in active service ...

again according to your expert sources that your posted to pawn me, where does it specify J10B???

and if and sale of 36 aproved in 2006, where are the a/cs? is been 6 years now...

 

[Secur]

Being a partner nation isn't it already offered... or did they offer eggs instead of JF-17 while Pakistan was the partner nation with China of JF-17 project ?
Too much for Uneducated folk... that's understandable.

You are both developing the aircraft ... We aren't doing so with China so how can they offer us a prototype ?

As for F-35 part , The Americans denied it later ... No offer to sale JSF to India as they later said

Yes understandable for a fanboy !