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Indians knew about gravity before Newton: Isro ex-chief

Don't get me wrong. I believe people of antiquity knew more than we give them credit for. They may have not known the reasoning behind a lot of things they observed, nonetheless they observed it and applied it in their lives. A lot of history has been lost over time. Unless we can find all the missing pieces, we'll never know how and why they reached the conclusions they did.

In Vedic era, meditation , Gyan Yoga was the source of knowledge. The way benzene's ring structure was revealed to kekule in his dream.
 
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Rig Veda 10.149.1“The sun has tied Earth and other planets through attraction and moves them around itself as if a trainer moves newly trained horses around itself holding their reins.”
In this mantra,
Savita = Sun
Yantraih = through reins
Prithiveem = Earth
Aramnaat = Ties
Dyaam Andahat = Other planets in sky as well
Atoorte = Unbreakable
Baddham = Holds
Ashwam Iv Adhukshat = Like horses

GRAVITATIONAL FORCE
Do you know what "quantified" means? That word was present in my post for a reason.
 
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Count on me to back you on everything. Haryanvanvi guys are of 2 types ..... and they are on extremes when it comes to respecting a girl. either they are one on extreme left or extereme right. you have known me long enough to known where i stand on this issue.

Thank you!! :-)
 
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Do you know what "quantified" means? That word was present in my post for a reason.

I already said, the application was there before he gave any mathematical model of gravitation. That's how egyptians built Pyramid and Harappa had advance sanitary system and Taxila Uni are some fine examples. In civil engineering gravitation if neglected can cause catastrophic results.
 
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Then type in Japanese , we'll google translate it. I hope you must be good at it after the Nanking tutorials

And look who's thanking him on this doltish buffoonery - Pakistanis, as if British didn't rule over what is modern day Pakistan. :lol:

Do you know where Japanese's writing originated from??? :rofl: maybe you're newbie in this forum, please do yourself a favor don't try to embarrasee your Indians folks.
 
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So those verses in the Quran about god breathing life into Adam and Eve? How does that fit in?

From what we know through evolutionary biology, there never was an Adam or Eve, no such thing as a first couple.

Those verses and verses like them are allegorical in nature and this was a view point accepted as far back as the 12 century by polymaths like Averroes who talked about the use of hermeneutics in the interpretation of religious texts and in addition to being a noted scientists and philosopher he was also a theologian of the Maliki Fiqh of Sunni Islam. But even before that classical commentators have alluded to the allegorical meaning of those verses as well.

Islam is pretty much silent on the process of 'Creation' while supporting 'Evolution' by saying that we created everything from water and in stages (thats pretty much what Modern Science tells us).

How Adam and Eve came about ? I don't know; perhaps the first hominids to have sentience and by sentience I mean the ability to make logical conclusions of a philosophical nature and not purely of a beastial nature were Adam and Eve. Or perhaps the very mention of Adam and Eve is an allegory alluding to the common origins of mankind - We just don't know because the Koran is not a book of Science its a book that deals with human interactions and philosophical questions. Thats what Science is for - To figure this stuff out....how did it all happen ?

I am a man of finance with a deep...deep interest in philosophy so I'm not really the best person to talk about this with. Try asking questions about this to @Akheilos - A geneticist ! :)
 
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Muslim Scientists and Discovery of Gravitation Law

Besides the previous achievements of Muslims and their efforts to discover the most important laws of physics, including laws of motion, they also came up with startling discovery in physics, which have been ascribed to others who appeared centuries after them. Muslim scientists discovered the "gravitation law" whose importance lies in the fact that it links celestial bodies and maintains their integrity and regularity in their orbits. Discovering such a law, scientists have been able o interpret the fall of bodies into the Earth and comprehend more about the movement of planets around the Sun in approximately circular orbits, hypothesizing that the gravitation between the Sun and its planets causes this circular movement.

Muslim Scientists and Discovery of Gravitation Law

It is taken for granted in the East, in the West and among school and university students that Isaac Newton discovered the gravitation law when he was sitting one day under a tree and an apple fell over him. He kept thinking of the reason for its fall till he came up with the gravitation law and formulated it. In this law, he proved that every body attracts other material bodies with a strength that might increase or decrease depending on the mass and distance among them.


However, is this the truth? The accumulative nature of science assures that Newton could not have formulated his famous law as was the case with the three laws of motion unless he had checked the contributions of his great predecessors across ages. The narration of the whole story by Professor Ahmed Fouad Pasha unveils this significant fact.


Having referred to the theoretical attempt of the Greek philosopher Aristotle when trying to interpret the free fall of bodies, Professor Ahmed Fouad Pasha pointed out "Due to their orthodox religion, Muslim scientists had adopted the right scientific approach to the attainment of sciences and knowledge. They never accepted the philosophical justification of views, which could be tested experimentally. They construed that the accurate scientific interpretation of cosmic phenomena relied on its expression of the scientific fact behind the behaviour of these phenomena. Unprecedentedly, Muslim scientists presented an acceptable principle of the free fall of bodies due to the effect of the gravitation of the earth.


In his book entitled "the Two Ancient Movable Yellow and White Gems (Al-Gawharatin Al-Atikatin Al-Maatin min Al Safraa wa Al Bydaa), Al Hamazani commenced this scientific revolution when he was talking about the earth and the related water and air. He pointed out "Whatever is beneath the Earth is as stable as whatever is above it; this object is like a magnet which attracts iron from all directions".


By this interpretation, Al-Hamazani had established the first partial fact about the physics of gravitation, which is known – as stated by Professor Ahmed Fouad Pasha – as the "position energy" or "stability energy" as being a resultant of the height of bodies over earth. Al Hamazani did not explicitly say that bodies attract each other, which is the comprehensive basis of the general gravitation law by Newton.


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In his book entitled Al Kanun Al-Masoudi (The Masoudi Law), Abul Rihan Al Biruni shared the same opinion of Al-Hamazani. He asserted that the Earth attracts the bodies above it towards its center. Similarly, Al Khazini mentioned in his book Mizan Al-Hekma (The Balance of Wisdom) that it is the body that continuously moves towards the centre of the Earth on its own. Besides, Al-Razi generalized that all objects on the Earth are subjects to gravitation. After that, Hibtullah bin Malkah Al Baghdadi corrected what Aristotle had pointed out about the speed of fall. Aristotle indicated that heavy bodies fall faster than light bodies. Ibn Malakah also outstripped Galileo when he came up with the scientific fact that the speed of the object which falls freely due to the influence of the gravitation of the earth does not depend on its mass particularly when there are no external obstacles. This fact has been stressed in his book Al Mu'tabar fi Al Hekma (The Considered in Wisdom), saying that "If bodies move in the space, they have the same speed regardless of their weight or size".


Through his study of the movement of the thrown objects , Al Baghdadi added new facts about the gravitation phenomenon. He pointed out that the movement of the thrown objects contrasts the action of the gravitation of the Earth. In his own words "The thrown stone holds the same attraction energy of the throwing object".


Commenting on Al Baghdadi, Professor Ahmed Fouad Pasha pointed out that it is important to indicate that Al Baghdadi did not use the concept of tendency as a hidden power of natural (ferocity) towards the Earth. Unlike Aristotle, Al Baghdadi clarified that tendency refers to the material power which scientifically controls the movement of the thrown object towards or against gravitation.


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Professor Ahmed Fouad Pasha went on to say that "Al Khazin tackled the acceleration of the falling objects towards the earth. In his book, The Balance of Wisdom (Mizan Al Hikma), Al Khazin showed that he was aware of the right relation between the speed of the falling objects on the surface of the Earth and the distance and time these falling objects take. This relation between the speed, the distance and the time was stated in the mathematical equations affiliated to Galileo in the seventh century A.D.

Accordingly, it is obvious that the scientists of the Islamic civilization have managed to come up with partial facts by completing the human conceptualization of the gravitation phenomenon. They set the ancient philosophical views aside and asserted that the methods of research about knowledge depended on the nature of its subjects.



Similarly, but for this great revolution introduced by Muslim scientists into the methodology of thought and scientific research, ancient superstitions would remain till now and Isaac Newton would not consult great scientists to attain such glory and fame


It is suffice to re-consider the history of the laws of motion, the gravitation law in order to give scientists their due appreciation.

Muslim Scientists and Discovery of Gravitation Law | Islam Story - Supervised by Dr. Ragheb Elsergany

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Isaac Newton, who was aware of Ibn al-Haytham’s works. He studied the basis of calculus, which would later lead to the engineering formulas and methods used today. He also wrote about the laws governing the movement of bodies (later known as Newton’s 3 laws of motion) and the attraction between two bodies – gravity. It was not, in fact, the apple that fell from the tree that told Newton about gravity, but the books of Ibn al-Haytham.

Ibn al-Haytham – The First Scientist | Lost Islamic History
 
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Muslim Scientists and Discovery of Gravitation Law

Besides the previous achievements of Muslims and their efforts to discover the most important laws of physics, including laws of motion, they also came up with startling discovery in physics, which have been ascribed to others who appeared centuries after them. Muslim scientists discovered the "gravitation law" whose importance lies in the fact that it links celestial bodies and maintains their integrity and regularity in their orbits. Discovering such a law, scientists have been able o interpret the fall of bodies into the Earth and comprehend more about the movement of planets around the Sun in approximately circular orbits, hypothesizing that the gravitation between the Sun and its planets causes this circular movement.



Muslim Scientists and Discovery of Gravitation Law

It is taken for granted in the East, in the West and among school and university students that Isaac Newton discovered the gravitation law when he was sitting one day under a tree and an apple fell over him. He kept thinking of the reason for its fall till he came up with the gravitation law and formulated it. In this law, he proved that every body attracts other material bodies with a strength that might increase or decrease depending on the mass and distance among them.



However, is this the truth? The accumulative nature of science assures that Newton could not have formulated his famous law as was the case with the three laws of motion unless he had checked the contributions of his great predecessors across ages. The narration of the whole story by Professor Ahmed Fouad Pasha unveils this significant fact.



Having referred to the theoretical attempt of the Greek philosopher Aristotle when trying to interpret the free fall of bodies, Professor Ahmed Fouad Pasha pointed out "Due to their orthodox religion, Muslim scientists had adopted the right scientific approach to the attainment of sciences and knowledge. They never accepted the philosophical justification of views, which could be tested experimentally. They construed that the accurate scientific interpretation of cosmic phenomena relied on its expression of the scientific fact behind the behaviour of these phenomena. Unprecedentedly, Muslim scientists presented an acceptable principle of the free fall of bodies due to the effect of the gravitation of the earth.



In his book entitled "the Two Ancient Movable Yellow and White Gems (Al-Gawharatin Al-Atikatin Al-Maatin min Al Safraa wa Al Bydaa), Al Hamazani commenced this scientific revolution when he was talking about the earth and the related water and air. He pointed out "Whatever is beneath the Earth is as stable as whatever is above it; this object is like a magnet which attracts iron from all directions"
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By this interpretation, Al-Hamazani had established the first partial fact about the physics of gravitation, which is known – as stated by Professor Ahmed Fouad Pasha – as the "position energy" or "stability energy" as being a resultant of the height of bodies over earth. Al Hamazani did not explicitly say that bodies attract each other, which is the comprehensive basis of the general gravitation law by Newton.



6092_image003.jpg
In his book entitled Al Kanun Al-Masoudi (The Masoudi Law), Abul Rihan Al Biruni shared the same opinion of Al-Hamazani. He asserted that the Earth attracts the bodies above it towards its center. Similarly, Al Khazini mentioned in his book Mizan Al-Hekma (The Balance of Wisdom) that it is the body that continuously moves towards the centre of the Earth on its own. Besides, Al-Razi generalized that all objects on the Earth are subjects to gravitation. After that, Hibtullah bin Malkah Al Baghdadi corrected what Aristotle had pointed out about the speed of fall. Aristotle indicated that heavy bodies fall faster than light bodies. Ibn Malakah also outstripped Galileo when he came up with the scientific fact that the speed of the object which falls freely due to the influence of the gravitation of the earth does not depend on its mass particularly when there are no external obstacles. This fact has been stressed in his book Al Mu'tabar fi Al Hekma (The Considered in Wisdom), saying that "If bodies move in the space, they have the same speed regardless of their weight or size".


Through his study of the movement of the thrown objects , Al Baghdadi added new facts about the gravitation phenomenon. He pointed out that the movement of the thrown objects contrasts the action of the gravitation of the Earth. In his own words "The thrown stone holds the same attraction energy of the throwing object".



Commenting on Al Baghdadi, Professor Ahmed Fouad Pasha pointed out that it is important to indicate that Al Baghdadi did not use the concept of tendency as a hidden power of natural (ferocity) towards the Earth. Unlike Aristotle, Al Baghdadi clarified that tendency refers to the material power which scientifically controls the movement of the thrown object towards or against gravitation.



6092_image004.jpg
Professor Ahmed Fouad Pasha went on to say that "Al Khazin tackled the acceleration of the falling objects towards the earth. In his book, The Balance of Wisdom (Mizan Al Hikma), Al Khazin showed that he was aware of the right relation between the speed of the falling objects on the surface of the Earth and the distance and time these falling objects take. This relation between the speed, the distance and the time was stated in the mathematical equations affiliated to Galileo in the seventh century A.D.

Accordingly, it is obvious that the scientists of the Islamic civilization have managed to come up with partial facts by completing the human conceptualization of the gravitation phenomenon. They set the ancient philosophical views aside and asserted that the methods of research about knowledge depended on the nature of its subjects.



Similarly, but for this great revolution introduced by Muslim scientists into the methodology of thought and scientific research, ancient superstitions would remain till now and Isaac Newton would not consult great scientists to attain such glory and fame



It is suffice to re-consider the history of the laws of motion, the gravitation law in order to give scientists their due appreciation.


Muslim Scientists and Discovery of Gravitation Law | Islam Story - Supervised by Dr. Ragheb Elsergany
this is about indian... open other thread
 
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ask him how many balchu player played in the game.
there not going to be any in nxt 100 years...

Not you her .. Did you even see her post? She is free to do whatever she wants .. But she isn't free to talk shit about others.
if you want to cool it down, let it go, abusing jst because to show u are the dominating figure ain't goona solve anything...
aur yaar tu ye bata, u never speak bad of others...
 
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yet they find a Indian girl and attack her like a b!tch they are.
chor yaar, isse accha lac guna accha jharkhand or NE hai.... most of our good players in archery, hockey fighting, weight lifting come from these areas...
 
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there not going to be any in nxt 100 years...


if you want to cool it down, let it go, abusing jst because to show u are the dominating figure ain't goona solve anything...
aur yaar tu ye bata, u never speak bad of others...
@DESERT FIGHTER has been one of the most decent poster here on the forum. respected him.I don't whats gotten into him... must have been cheap sasti daru in Pakistan
 
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