Indian Special Forces

[Indischer]

But it resulted in deep and permanent scars in the hearts of an entire community. Sending army in a place of worship was needless one. I am not saying that an operation was not required ... but it could have done anywhere else other than a place of worship. Or there could have been many smarter ways to handle that. We were not fighting foreigners but people of our country ... which went against us JUST and i repeat JUST because of silly politics.

I don't know how the army could have handled it any differently. Not their fault that Bhindranwale and Co decided to dig in, fortify and run ops from the Akal Takht. There was a significant risk of the army getting into an urban war, causing many more casualties, in case they decided to lay siege and wait for the militants to come out voluntarily.

 

[Lipizzaner_Stallion]

I don't know how the army could have handled it any differently. Not their fault that Bhindranwale and Co decided to dig in, fortify and run ops from the Akal Takht. There was a significant risk of the army getting into an urban war, causing many more casualties, in case they decided to lay siege and wait for the militants to come out voluntarily.

I believe there were few opportunities of negotiations which we missed. Army shouldn't have been called. If we can allow Hurriyat Confrence to spew venom for decades and still refrain from any action, what was stopping us to do the same with Bhindranwale. He was no one then and we just made him hero after the operation.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Had been a question of mine for a while- how does the SPG get the PM's cavalcade and 7 series around India and to foreign countries when needed?

Two bullet-proof vehicles arrive in Kathmandu for Modi

2 of the SPG's 7 Series Security transported by IAF cargo plane to Katmandu along with 1 Safari Jammer vehicle. All three vehicles will be stored in a sanitised area of the Indian Embassy in Katmandu under SPG watch. The rest of Modi's cavalcade will be made up of Nepali sourced vehicles.

I've heard the SPG also have their own railway carriages for transporting their vehicles within India. Not quite US Secret service level with the POTUS wherein they have 2 C-17s on call all the time and transport the ENTIRE POTUS cavalcade (limo, jammers, ambulance and SUVs for close protection) anywhere and everywhere the President travels but still pretty cool .


Maybe a few here will be interested by this, it had certainly been of interest to me for some time.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Had been a question of mine for a while- how does the SPG get the PM's cavalcade and 7 series around India and to foreign countries when needed?

Two bullet-proof vehicles arrive in Kathmandu for Modi

2 of the SPG's 7 Series Security transported by IAF cargo plane to Katmandu along with 1 Safari Jammer vehicle. All three vehicles will be stored in a sanitised area of the Indian Embassy in Katmandu under SPG watch. The rest of Modi's cavalcade will be made up of Nepali sourced vehicles.

I've heard the SPG also have their own railway carriages for transporting their vehicles within India. Not quite US Secret service level with the POTUS wherein they have 2 C-17s on call all the time and transport the ENTIRE POTUS cavalcade (limo, jammers, ambulance and SUVs for close protection) anywhere and everywhere the President travels but still pretty cool .


Maybe a few here will be interested by this, it had certainly been of interest to me for some time.

Ya they have railway carriages.The SPG instructor I met 2 years ago told me about this.

Talking about C17..a week before Kerry was gonna arrive in India a US AF C 17 was spotted by me in Delhi.

So US gives security to not only its presidents but other important personalities too.

 

[Abingdonboy]

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So US gives security to not only its presidents but other important personalities too.

No doubt about that!

For the top levels of government the USAF has the 89th Airlift Wing (the VC-25A/Air Force One is part of this unit) operating not just the VC-25A/Air Force One:

But also the unit operates a number of C-32s (civilian 757s) for the Vice President (Air Force two), cabinet officials and top military leaders (the president also uses them on occasion):

For domestic use cabinet and government officials also have the use of the C-40 (military version of the 737 BBJ):

For foreign use, particularly for use by the Secretary of State the USAF has the 1st Airlift Squadron for SAM FOX (Special Air Mission: Foreign ) as they call it. This SQD has both the C-32 and C-40 (757 and 737 military versions).


Additionally the Secretary of State has a dedicated security force within the State service- the DSS (Diplomatic Security Service) akin the the US Secret Service in training and equipment that protects the Secretary of State along with foreign diplomats on US soil and US diplomats and staff on foreign soil.


The US has a very impressive infrastructure around its top people indeed.

 

[hkdas]

marcos...

 

[hkdas]

No doubt about that!

For the top levels of government the USAF has the 89th Airlift Wing (the VC-25A/Air Force One is part of this unit) operating not just the VC-25A/Air Force One:

But also the unit operates a number of C-32s (civilian 757s) for the Vice President (Air Force two), cabinet officials and top military leaders (the president also uses them on occasion):

For domestic use cabinet and government officials also have the use of the C-40 (military version of the 737 BBJ):

For foreign use, particularly for use by the Secretary of State the USAF has the 1st Airlift Squadron for SAM FOX (Special Air Mission: Foreign ) as they call it. This SQD has both the C-32 and C-40 (757 and 737 military versions).


Additionally the Secretary of State has a dedicated security force within the State service- the DSS (Diplomatic Security Service) akin the the US Secret Service in training and equipment that protects the Secretary of State along with foreign diplomats on US soil and US diplomats and staff on foreign soil.


The US has a very impressive infrastructure around its top people indeed.

 

[hkdas]

para commandos....

 

[hkdas]

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR, para commandos during their training they have Weekly forced marches with 65 kg combat loads with distances over 50 to 80 miles. how much times they have to do these forces marches during their entire training period??

 

[Koovie]

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR, para commandos during their training they have Weekly forced marches with 65 kg combat loads with distances over 50 to 80 miles. how much times they have to do these forces marches during their entire training period??

Source?

I am pretty sure that it was up to 80 km and not 80 miles which would be over 125 km.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR, para commandos during their training they have Weekly forced marches with 65 kg combat loads with distances over 50 to 80 miles. how much times they have to do these forces marches during their entire training period??

I dont know anyone in SF but my friend in Ghatak used to do 20 kms with 22kg load in 1 hr 50 mins.So 60-80kms road march would be anywhere from 8-11 hrs

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

His pic from recent deployment.He is the one with the bandana.

 

[Bang Galore]

I don't know how the army could have handled it any differently. Not their fault that Bhindranwale and Co decided to dig in, fortify and run ops from the Akal Takht. There was a significant risk of the army getting into an urban war, causing many more casualties, in case they decided to lay siege and wait for the militants to come out voluntarily.

They did handle it differently a couple of years later during black thunder but hindsight is always 20/20.

 

[Abingdonboy]

His pic from recent deployment.He is the one with the bandana.

Any more pics bro?

para commandos....

Cool pic, I always wondered what the PARA (SF) used their black uniforms for in the real world.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Any more pics bro?


Cool pic, I always wondered what the PARA (SF) used their black uniforms for in the real world.

Will be uploading more if I get them.

Black dress is for special missions mostly.