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I can't access to PDF/XVideos through my htc inbuilt browser(mine is Vodafone Karnataka)..But no such issues while using proxy servers like Opera mini/Mobile..very fast..

Was this case from day 1 or since saturday?
 
Was this case from day 1 or since saturday?
no,
from the last 3-4 days,i think..though i am not sure.. I prefer opera mini/Mobile for browsing.inbuilt browser takes 2-3 minutes to load a page,i use it only for downloading songs or videos..

India is Hindu land and same for Kerala ,oh muralidharan's statement thats your last straw ?

KSC mani stabbed the Diwan ,not the royals ...I for your info that movie portrays Mani was a communist in reality he was RSP member ....
let it be..
yes,But it was due to that incident,which forced the ruling elites to accept the merger with Indian union..
socialist or communists,its only because of their hardship and struggles that we are now a part of India,not the travancore family nor their sanghi worshipers.mind it...
 
no,
from the last 3-4 days,i think..though i am not sure.. I prefer opera mini/Mobile for browsing.inbuilt browser takes 2-3 minutes to load a page,i use it only for downloading songs or videos..


let it be..
yes,But it was due to that incident,which forced the ruling elites to accept the merger with Indian union..
socialist or communists,its only because of their hardship and struggles that we are now a part of India,not the travancore family nor their sanghi worshipers.mind it...

Of course these communists and socialists were Hindus better you remember such things Freedom struggle or Accession of princely states or Accession of Goa Hindus played important role....
 
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Well Christian missionaries especially American missionaries have had a strong presence in the Northern, North Western and Eastern provinces of Ceylon.. And both the Mannar and Jaffna diocese till recently came under the Church of South India centered in Madras.. So their influence is immense.. To date Bishop of Mannar Rayappu Joseph is considered to be a strong advocate of LTTE separatist agenda.. This enabled them to fund the campaign with the help of Western Church organizations and affiliated INGO's both in the West and operating out of Tamil Nadu

And as you rightly mentioned almost all the leaders of Ceylonese Tamil nationalism including latter day insurgents like Prabhakaran (Who is malayalee in origin) were actually Christians not Hindu's

American Ceylon Mission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Church of South India | CSI Chennai Diocese | CSI Diocese of Madras

S. J. V. Chelvanayakam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - Samuel James Veluppillai Chelvanayakam


Dharmic orgs of our countries should cooperate on such matters

Secular riots are better than communal tension
 
hard to digest..Kanyakumari district had handful of Christians in 1850s..now they became majority(around 48%,51% -unofficial data) within 100 year,Most of those converts are from your own nadar community..I don't think they all converted within no time when some missionaries lured them in hospitals...Its possible to convert some 1000 or at most 10,000 in a district or in a locality with money,But an entire population of a district??..nothing,But they had less faith in Hinduism or a miracle??..

I am not from the nadar community. However to answer your question, I was only talking about the modus operandi of evangelists in the present time. If you want to know about how there were mass conversions, then you have to study the history of Dutch and Portuguese colonizations of these places. There are examples of how Dutch Huguenots giving patronages to Nadar villages to make them protestants and how Portuguese favored their rivals the Paravas to convert them to Catholics. Also, the feud between Nadars and Thevars led to a fraction of the former converting to protestants.

Religious tensions are also booming in TN,Terrorist jihadi groups like Al umma has its basa in TN..ongoing tensions between Hindu-Christian groups in Kanyakumari,Muslim-Hindu groups in ramanathapuram(where non Muslims are not allowed to entire in some Muslim majority areas) or the frequent caste tensions between two Hindu groups,eg-Dharmapuri violence...

Caste tensions are there. But when we are talking about religious tensions in Kerala, the Al Ummas of TN certainly cannot hold a candle to the organizations in Kerala.
 
I am not from the nadar community. However to answer your question, I was only talking about the modus operandi of evangelists in the present time. If you want to know about how there were mass conversions, then you have to study the history of Dutch and Portuguese colonizations of these places. There are examples of how Dutch Huguenots giving patronages to Nadar villages to make them protestants and how Portuguese favored their rivals the Paravas to convert them to Catholics. Also, the feud between Nadars and Thevars led to a fraction of the former converting to protestants.
I am not sure about Dutch-Portuguese tactics..btw-Most of these conversion were happened in the 20th century and still going on,google-channar revolt,it was against the cruel polices of the high caste local rulers against the backward Hindu nadars,lot were converted during that time as a protest,note-Kanyakumari were a part of Travancore at that time..
Thevars are not a significant caste in Kanyakumari district,if i am not wrong..
 
aap kare toh chamatkar hain, jab hum kare toh balatkaar ?? and what is it with aggressive hinduism?? world hasn't seen one yet... :lol:
What is aggressive Hinduism?? Can you please explain..

& TBH there is nothing wrong in conversions to Christianity/Islam. People are converting because they don't like Hinduism any more. Because Hinduism has failed them

& these "Hindu" organisations oppose the actions of missionaries. Actions which help the people & make their lives better

My Question: What is stopping these lazy fellows from doing the same?? All they want to do is make unnecessary speeches, threaten others & dream of an India where everybody speaks Hindi as their first language(most of these Hindu organisations are filled with Hindi-speaking chauvinists at the top) & hoard money for themselves..

The same goes to these spiritual gurus who charge money for their medicines ,courses & sessions..
 
Caste tensions are there. But when we are talking about religious tensions in Kerala, the Al Ummas of TN certainly cannot hold a candle to the organizations in Kerala.
Religious tensions too..last year,i think..a hindu munnani leader was brutally murdered in TN??..read a news about some Muslims mob attacked a police station somewhere near Madras last week??..and its from your own Tamilnadu,where some Muslim youths posted a picture in the facebook wearing T-Shirts with ISIS slogans and flags and gone viral (But many hyper fake nationalists(including some Kerala ones) in this very forum mistaked them as Kerala Muslims)...Its same in TN.

Of course these communists and socialists were Hindus better you remember such things Freedom struggle or Accession of princely states or Accession of Goa Hindus played important role....
So now you want the credits of their hardship??...haha
of course they were largely from Hindu background(though most were atheist),But sanghis like you were against the merger with Indian union and sided with the ruling aristocrats at that time..now the very same sanghis in Kerala are giving patriotic certificates to others,what an irony??..yes,i do respect patriotic goan sanghis,not the ones from Kerala..
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Religious tensions too..last year,i think..a hindu munnani leader was brutally murdered in TN??..read a news about some Muslims mob attacked a police station somewhere near Madras last week??..and its from your own Tamilnadu,where some Muslim youths posted a picture in the facebook wearing T-Shirts with ISIS slogans and flags and gone viral (But many hyper fake nationalists(including some Kerala ones) in this very forum mistaked them as Kerala Muslims)...Its same in TN.


So now you want the credits of their hardship??...haha
of course they were largely from Hindu background(though most were atheist),But sanghis like you were against the merger with Indian union and sided with the ruling aristocrats at that time..now the very same sanghis in Kerala are giving patriotic certificates to others,what an irony??..yes,i do respect patriotic goan sanghis,not the ones from Kerala..
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Prove the bold part ?there is no historical reference to prove RSS or Hindu outfits supported diwan ,as usual you are making empty claims ....
 
What is aggressive Hinduism?? Can you please explain..

& TBH there is nothing wrong in conversions to Christianity/Islam. People are converting because they don't like Hinduism any more. Because Hinduism has failed them

& these "Hindu" organisations oppose the actions of missionaries. Actions which help the people & make their lives better

My Question: What is stopping these lazy fellows from doing the same?? All they want to do is make unnecessary speeches, threaten others & dream of an India where everybody speaks Hindi as their first language(most of these Hindu organisations are filled with Hindi-speaking chauvinists at the top) & hoard money for themselves..

The same goes to these spiritual gurus who charge money for their medicines ,courses & sessions..

Yeah they should not charge money for their medicines, courses, and sessions. Instead they should loot and kill people like you to get the money to provide stuff free to others.
 
Yeah they should not charge money for their medicines, courses, and sessions. Instead they should loot and kill people like you to get the money to provide stuff free to others.
Yes they should not charge money for medicines, courses ,schools & hospitals if they wish to carry out more ghar wapasis.

Your enemies are doing such stuff on a daily basis, don't you knoe that?
You are in power at North Block & South Block of New Delhi, Mumbai, Ranchi, Bhopal, Gandhinagar, Chandigarh & many states+corporations & I am not even taking into consideration donations from the rich & the aam aadmi.

Of course you can afford to do the same, some organisations like Art of Living(of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar) are working towards free edu, healthcare,housing, clean water & hygiene for the poor. In some cases they also give spiritual discourses,SO why can't RSS+VHP do the same?? Are they so incompetent or have they just chosen to laze around & relax

EDIT1:- I will repeat what I said above:-
My Question: What is stopping these lazy fellows from doing the same?? All they want to do is make unnecessary speeches, threaten others & dream of an India where everybody speaks Hindi as their first language(most of these Hindu organisations are filled with Hindi-speaking chauvinists at the top)..
I forgot to mention giving idiots who think like P.N. Oak a free hand & top positions in the govt.(not that their predecessors were any better)

Uttering nonsense like Sakshi Maharaj only generates bad PR & gets nothing done..

P.S:- Stop getting so emotional & try to refute in a logical manner -_- Attacking the messenger gets you no where

& people are leaving Hinduism too because of lack of faith in it+casteism.
 
Yes they should not charge money for medicines, courses ,schools & hospitals if they wish to carry out more ghar wapasis.

Yeah all those stuff grows free on the tree in your backyard and hence anyone can avail of it.

Your enemies are doing such stuff on a daily basis, don't you knoe that?
You are in power at North Block & South Block of New Delhi, Mumbai, Ranchi, Bhopal, Gandhinagar, Chandigarh & many states+corporations & I am not even taking into consideration donations from the rich & the aam aadmi.

We are not in power to loot people. Unlike you seculars who used state funds for church building, Hindu govt's do not use state funds for Hindu activities. The temples are under the control of the govt in case you did not know. Much of free yoga classes, free ayurvedic doctor consultations, etc. etc. are already provided by the gurus and swamis in case you did not know. If you were not such an ignoramus you would not be talking from your behind about Hindu gurus your state having been the biggest of beneficiaries of Satya Sai Baba's trusts activities.

Of course you can afford to do the same, some organisations like Art of Living(of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar) are working towards free edu, healthcare,housing, clean water & hygiene for the poor. In some cases they also give spiritual discourses,SO why can't RSS+VHP do the same?? Are they so incompetent or have they just chosen to laze around & relax

What do you know about the work RSS does? Or VHP does?

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