Indian Navy Threat to Gwadar 2017

[assassin123]

Not quite.

This scenario isn't all that improbable, remember the Hindustani navy cannot send it's entire or even most of its fleet, the coastline is far too big in comparison to ours.

Our surface fleet is pretty good. They could do a fair amount of damage especially with support from southern air command (they don't just have JF-17's, they also have Mirages and F-16's in ample numbers, more than enough to counter whatever the Hindustani navy's air arm brings and then some). However, if the war dragged they might not last, but our submarines could still prevent a blockade. They are very capable, and don't forget how they forced a Hindustani submarine to retreat in November. If they were so weak, I'm sure the Hindustani navy would have had no trouble destroying it, right?

Not to mention the complaints your own country has about the Hindustani navy's submarines:

http://www.oneindia.com/2013/08/20/...stans-powerful-submarines-report-1287237.html

The CM-400AKG is potent enough for the US to consider it a threat to their carriers, do you really think the Hindustani navy's carriers are better (or even comparable)? Several JF-17's can fire a bunch of them, and only one of them will have to hit to do some damage. It wouldn't be easy, but it's possible and probably enough to scare away your carriers or prevent a blockade, and this is just for carriers. Surface ships would have less of a chance, and could also be dealt with Babur or Raad (not sure how effective those would be against carriers, but I'm sure they could work on them too).

Performing a blockade is what we aim to prevent and can prevent, through the use of submarines and our powerful southern air command. It's not impossible or unlikely at all.



Might want to check again:

http://www.asian-defence.net/2012/1...ersonic-Carrier-Killer-Missile-For-JF-17.html

And you expect PN to sent it's entire fleet even though having a really old fleet?
As I said before IN western fleets sole purpose is to blockade your Navy so you can stop talking about coastline math.
I hope you realise that 2 entire squadrons of jaguar (maritime stike varient ) and a similar number of su 30 mki are dedicated for maritime strike.you speak as if they will only have to face mig 29 k.you probably heard that for the first time didn't you.
What chances do antiquated mirages have against mig 29k and su 30's.
Nope your surface fleet is really poor and antiquated and there is no effort taken to improve it by be your Navy.
almost all newest IN ships are protected by 3-4 layers of Sam &ciws cover.
While all your ships are limited to PDM cover only. All IN strike aircraft will have free shot at PN ships without any challenge.

The us Navy will assess all Chinese weapons as a treat no matter what.As I said about the CM 400 before,it's not a sea skimmer it goes really high before coming straight down and it cannot change it's flight path in it's terminal phase.it will be easy work for Barak 8&1's.
And regarding submarines the scorpenes are getting commissioned the qualititative advantage enjoyed by PN is now over.

 

[Penguin]

Some Times Words CANT explain some thing LIKE a picture

Yes, and .... ?

A blog.

Certainly not the only source... and what matter is whether it is a GOOD blog.

 

[ziaulislam]

do you think india can afford 10+ AIP subs sitting quietly ready to sink any merchant ship that enters india water.
naval blockade is not a simple thing its declaration of war, Pakistan can achieve the same thing just by declaring its own naval blockade by declaring that it will sink any ship that enters or leaves Indian port

having said that large number of mobile coastal batteries will do good of Indian ships if they do try to attempt a blockade

PN doesnt carry a separate air arm, PAF job is to handle botht he IAF and IN naval arm.

so comparing assets would be IAF+IN vs PAF, our thunders with SD-10 and falcons with AIM 120 are more than capable to handle any IAF aircraft.

its the numerical sup that india enjoys, which means longer war of attrition will lead to indian victory but can india afford it, the losses will be devastating, a long war will also mean ultimately the MAD scenario will come into effect

why do you think india never did a blockade in 50 years including the long driven kargil war

 

[Rational guy]

Yes and indians also have spy bases in space,moon and mars.[emoji12]

They have spy satellites though,earlier they used mig 25 for this purpose.

 

[footmarks]

do you think india can afford 10+ AIP subs sitting quietly ready to sink any merchant ship that enters india water.
naval blockade is not a simple thing its declaration of war, Pakistan can achieve the same thing just by declaring its own naval blockade by declaring that it will sink any ship that enters or leaves Indian port

having said that large number of mobile coastal batteries will do good of Indian ships if they do try to attempt a blockade

PN doesnt carry a separate air arm, PAF job is to handle botht he IAF and IN naval arm.

so comparing assets would be IAF+IN vs PAF, our thunders with SD-10 and falcons with AIM 120 are more than capable to handle any IAF aircraft.

its the numerical sup that india enjoys, which means longer war of attrition will lead to indian victory but can india afford it, the losses will be devastating, a long war will also mean ultimately the MAD scenario will come into effect

why do you think india never did a blockade in 50 years including the long driven kargil war

Ya, even if that fails, remember, god is on your side. Keep praying.

 

[Rational guy]

Your naval aviation can not come close to EEZ in war because if they do, IN knows what will be coming to them, Pakistani air defense is not as weak as Indian thinks.

IN will suffer huge losses if they put huge force to take out PN also tactics also matters, PN is not going for sea control instead they will go for area Denial which is mostly done by Submarines and other supporting assets combined. Also PN also have better TNW delivery capabilities then PA because many of their weapons can carry TNWs. West have used TNW threat against foe Navies effectively and PN can take note from their doctrine.

do you think india can afford 10+ AIP subs sitting quietly ready to sink any merchant ship that enters india water.
naval blockade is not a simple thing its declaration of war, Pakistan can achieve the same thing just by declaring its own naval blockade by declaring that it will sink any ship that enters or leaves Indian port

having said that large number of mobile coastal batteries will do good of Indian ships if they do try to attempt a blockade

PN doesnt carry a separate air arm, PAF job is to handle botht he IAF and IN naval arm.

so comparing assets would be IAF+IN vs PAF, our thunders with SD-10 and falcons with AIM 120 are more than capable to handle any IAF aircraft.

its the numerical sup that india enjoys, which means longer war of attrition will lead to indian victory but can india afford it, the losses will be devastating, a long war will also mean ultimately the MAD scenario will come into effect

why do you think india never did a blockade in 50 years including the long driven kargil war

First of all these are just foolish assumptions, the reality is that pakistani navy neither has quality nor quantity to counter the mighty Indian navy, during the war of bangladesh they set ablaze the karachi harbor just minutes after sinking 3 pakistani warships and they also enforced naval blockade using their aircraft carriers, even chinese experience in naval warfare is next to zero and the Indians have tons of it so underestimating the indian navy will prove to be a fatal mistake by pakistan

 

[YeBeWarned]

And who is going to pay for these toys, you???

Apke papa , aur mere sasur

 

[Basel]

First of all these are just foolish assumptions, the reality is that pakistani navy neither has quality nor quantity to counter the mighty Indian navy, during the war of bangladesh they set ablaze the karachi harbor just minutes after sinking 3 pakistani warships and they also enforced naval blockade using their aircraft carriers, even chinese experience in naval warfare is next to zero and the Indians have tons of it so underestimating the indian navy will prove to be a fatal mistake by pakistan

Your mighty IN can't face TNWs salvos. Period

 

[nomi007]

Gawadar ki taraf dekha to
wohi hal karian ge
jo pakistan cricket team ne indian team ka kia

 

[el nino]

Your mighty IN can't face TNWs salvos. Period

What tnw does the pak navy possess.

I mean Indian navy has nuclear armed subs now and nuclear powered subs both akula class and indengious arihant.

This constant threat of tnw in every scenario is beginning to look rather blunt especially against a genuine nuclear armed navy

 

[YeBeWarned]

Tamez k dairay me reh kar bat kar ghashti k bachay. Ghar walo na nahe bataya k har jaga gand nahe yewatay

Didn't get the joke ? Itna serious kyun ho gaya Jazbati londay

 

[ziaulislam]

First of all these are just foolish assumptions, the reality is that pakistani navy neither has quality nor quantity to counter the mighty Indian navy, during the war of bangladesh they set ablaze the karachi harbor just minutes after sinking 3 pakistani warships and they also enforced naval blockade using their aircraft carriers, even chinese experience in naval warfare is next to zero and the Indians have tons of it so underestimating the indian navy will prove to be a fatal mistake by pakistan

Yeah indian navy has supercrusiers that can jump into space as well. This is due to alien technology given to indians

 

[Rational guy]

Yeah indian navy has supercrusiers that can jump into space as well. This is due to alien technology given to indians

Even if they dont have supercruisers they can decimate their enemies with whatever they have, so lets not indulge in flamebaiting and trolling and keep the discussion meaningful, cheers.

 

[Trisonics]

I think we should stop debating. Here are reasons from this very thread posted from our knowledgeable Paksitani members why IN sucks. Indian Navy can now sell all their equipment for scrap since we have no chance of overwhelming the might Pakistanis.

Your MiG-29K's have a 16%-39% serviceability rate. This means out of a fleet of 10 fighters, only one to 3 jets will be normally available for operations.

PN also have better TNW delivery capabilities then PA because many of their weapons can carry TNWs. West have used TNW threat against foe Navies effectively and PN can take note from their doctrine.

To fire brahmos your IN and IAF have to come close to fire those and PN subs, MPAs with PAF fighters can keep them away, PN subs can hit targets up to 450km

Especially in light of TOT of advanced high tech weapons systems by China to Pakistan. This is increasing massively especially in light of CPEC & Chinese strategic assets now being spread all over Pakistan. Case in point, the SLCM tests by Pakistan earlier this year which has now given us a nuclear 2nd strike capability.

Our submarines can just practice anti area access denial to prevent a blockade.

Don't forget they also carry the C-400AKG, which can strike down your carriers at mach 5 speed with a 1,600km strike range.

PN doesnt carry a separate air arm, PAF job is to handle botht he IAF and IN naval arm.

so comparing assets would be IAF+IN vs PAF, our thunders with SD-10 and falcons with AIM 120 are more than capable to handle any IAF aircraft.

Your mighty IN can't face TNWs salvos. Period

 

[Rational guy]

Your mighty IN can't face TNWs salvos. Period

Thermonukes you mean to say? You must remember that you are not the only ones with nukes. Indians SSBNs can hit pakistan with nukes even from east africa coast.