Indian Navy Official Film 2015

[Nilgiri]

 

[Kinetic]

Awesomeness at its best.

A fair of technologies. It looks cool when a russian submarine, an India anti-sub ship and american sub hunter aircraft fly side by side.


@MaarKhoor @Windjammer @DESERT FIGHTER @AsianUnion any thought?

 

[Maarkhoor]

Can't watch it right know, me in office will give you my detailed reply after watching it at home.

I think I.N should made documentary about INS Sindhurakshak how it explode and how the salvage operation done will love to watch it will give many technical knowledge.

 

[AMCA]

Can't watch it right know, me in office will give you my detailed reply after watching it at home.

I think I.N should made documentary about INS Sindhurakshak how it explode and how the salvage operation done will love to watch it will give many technical knowledge.

May be you can check out the documentary on Salvage Operations conducted by Pakistan on Karachi Port which was set ablaze by the Indian Navy for 7 days in the year 1971. May be you will get some technical Inputs. Since not much has changed in the technology for dozing off fire in Pakistan, you will gain reasonable amount of knowledge. Good Luck!!

 

[Maarkhoor]

May be you can check out the documentary on Salvage Operations conducted by Pakistan on Karachi Port which was set ablaze by the Indian Navy for 7 days in the year 1971. May be you will get some technical Inputs. Since not much has changed in the technology for dozing off fire in Pakistan, you will gain reasonable amount of knowledge. Good Luck!!

I have't read this fairy tale that you are telling me.

 

[AMCA]

I have't read this fairy tale that you are telling me.

No wonder Karachi Port burnt for 7 days. Dint you guys even attempt to conduct a Salvage Operation that you call it a Fairy Tale?

 

[Maarkhoor]

No wonder Karachi Port burnt for 7 days. Dint you guys even attempt to conduct a Salvage Operation that you call it a Fairy Tale?

I never heard about what you are saying but i am aware of Operation Dwarka, have you people prepared any documentary on that.

 

[AMCA]

I never heard about what you are saying but i am aware of Operation Dwarka, have you people prepared any documentary on that.

How can we forget that nuisance raid by Pakistan which resulted in follow up operations like Trident and Python by the Indian Navy burning Karachi for 7 days. Surprised You never heard of it.

 

[Windjammer]

@MaarKhoor , The Indian history is restricted to chapter-1.
Turn over the page and the denial begins with every Indian swinging from trees making the habitual racket.

In the wake of the missile attack, Pak Navy felt – almost as an after-thought – that the home base of the missile boats at Okha needed to be taken out. In all likelihood, the tit-for-tat raid serving as a retribution of sorts would have been uppermost in the minds of the Naval Staff. In any case, the necessity of tackling the threat of missile boats also sank in at PAF’s COC and it was agreed to attack Okha harbour. Of course, it was not expected that the missile boats would still be berthed at the quay-side in Okha. As a matter of fact, these had already been dispersed to smaller locations along the Saurashtra Coast, even before the war had started. Nonetheless, it was the considered opinion of Pak Navy that a hit on the infrastructure could hamper missile boat operations to some extent.

On the evening of 5 December, Flt Lt Shabbir A Khan was standing out on the B-57 tarmac watching preparations for the night missions, when he was informed about being detailed for a strike on Okha harbour. He, along with his navigator, Sqn Ldr Ansar Ahmad, rushed off to the operations room to start planning the mission. Two hours after moonrise seemed like a good selection of the TOT, as the glimmering sea would clearly outline the edges of the darkened harbour.

Taking off at 2210 hrs, the B-57 got a fiery send-off as the AAA opened up in the nearby Karachi harbour, signalling an air raid. Continuing the take-off, Shabbir and Ansar settled down to watch – with unnerving anticipation – the moonbeams dazzling the creeks and estuaries of the Kutch Coast to their port side. Finally, turning to the attack heading, they picked up a sizeable flotilla on their radar, about 20-nm to their starboard. There was a temptation to go for the ships, but discipline prevailed and they continued for the designated target. Reaching the pull-up point, Shabbir pushed the throttles to 100% power, while Ansar started to guide him into the attack. Just when Shabbir pressed the bomb release button and there was no release, Ansar realised that he had forgotten to arm the release switch. In a fraction of a second he flipped the switch on and Shabbir pipped the button again, pulling out of the dive narrowly. After some 10-odd seconds, there was a tremendous flash of light and the aircraft shook up with the blast. A direct hit had been achieved as nine 500-lb bombs slammed into fuel tanks and other stores at the harbour. In the meantime AAA had started to fire and the sky seemed ablaze. Shabbir and Ansar saw the shells continuously exploding along the aircraft’s flight path but luckily, the bomber escaped unscathed.

The attack had been a tremendous success and, news that the home base of the missile boats was in flames turned out to be thoroughly cathartic for all and sundry in the Pak Navy and PAF. A pair of F-104s which visited Okha for another attack four days later, reported that the harbour was still smouldering and the smoke could be seen from as far as 60-nm. The Indian Official History of 1971 Indo-Pak War notes that, “two air attacks were also carried out on Okha and some fuel tanks were set ablaze, thereby denying the missile boats any further use of this port as a forward base.”[6]

 

[Maarkhoor]

@MaarKhoor , The Indian history is restricted to chapter-1.
Turn over the page and the denial begins with every Indian swinging from trees making the habitual racket.

In the wake of the missile attack, Pak Navy felt – almost as an after-thought – that the home base of the missile boats at Okha needed to be taken out. In all likelihood, the tit-for-tat raid serving as a retribution of sorts would have been uppermost in the minds of the Naval Staff. In any case, the necessity of tackling the threat of missile boats also sank in at PAF’s COC and it was agreed to attack Okha harbour. Of course, it was not expected that the missile boats would still be berthed at the quay-side in Okha. As a matter of fact, these had already been dispersed to smaller locations along the Saurashtra Coast, even before the war had started. Nonetheless, it was the considered opinion of Pak Navy that a hit on the infrastructure could hamper missile boat operations to some extent.

On the evening of 5 December, Flt Lt Shabbir A Khan was standing out on the B-57 tarmac watching preparations for the night missions, when he was informed about being detailed for a strike on Okha harbour. He, along with his navigator, Sqn Ldr Ansar Ahmad, rushed off to the operations room to start planning the mission. Two hours after moonrise seemed like a good selection of the TOT, as the glimmering sea would clearly outline the edges of the darkened harbour.

Taking off at 2210 hrs, the B-57 got a fiery send-off as the AAA opened up in the nearby Karachi harbour, signalling an air raid. Continuing the take-off, Shabbir and Ansar settled down to watch – with unnerving anticipation – the moonbeams dazzling the creeks and estuaries of the Kutch Coast to their port side. Finally, turning to the attack heading, they picked up a sizeable flotilla on their radar, about 20-nm to their starboard. There was a temptation to go for the ships, but discipline prevailed and they continued for the designated target. Reaching the pull-up point, Shabbir pushed the throttles to 100% power, while Ansar started to guide him into the attack. Just when Shabbir pressed the bomb release button and there was no release, Ansar realised that he had forgotten to arm the release switch. In a fraction of a second he flipped the switch on and Shabbir pipped the button again, pulling out of the dive narrowly. After some 10-odd seconds, there was a tremendous flash of light and the aircraft shook up with the blast. A direct hit had been achieved as nine 500-lb bombs slammed into fuel tanks and other stores at the harbour. In the meantime AAA had started to fire and the sky seemed ablaze. Shabbir and Ansar saw the shells continuously exploding along the aircraft’s flight path but luckily, the bomber escaped unscathed.

The attack had been a tremendous success and, news that the home base of the missile boats was in flames turned out to be thoroughly cathartic for all and sundry in the Pak Navy and PAF. A pair of F-104s which visited Okha for another attack four days later, reported that the harbour was still smouldering and the smoke could be seen from as far as 60-nm. The Indian Official History of 1971 Indo-Pak War notes that, “two air attacks were also carried out on Okha and some fuel tanks were set ablaze, thereby denying the missile boats any further use of this port as a forward base.”[6]

Absolutely correct in their dictionary being biased equals to patriot.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Let's stick to the topic gentlemen- the Indian Navy 2015, this is not the time to delve into the histroy books.
@waz sir please clean up this thread.



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on topic:

When do you hear the IA reffereing to themselves as a "builder's army" or boasting about their attempts to indigenise? Fair enough the IN is still very relient on foreign products (especially in the top end requirements) but they have at least set the goal of indigenising as much as possible in the near future- the IA doesn't even state its intent to. The IA's top brass just isn't strategically focused outside of the battlefield. As combat leaders they are sublime but as project managers or visionaries they are severely lacking as compared to the IN (and IAF to a lesser extent). One cannot blame the IA entirely- this is a byproduct of their culture and is found in armies around the world. The IN is inherently a very technical force and its officers will have a strategic mindset by the very nature of being a maritime force- the IA is, on the other hand, very sheltered- they still think an army's power is measured in the number of divsions/corps you have.

@Echo_419 @Water Car Engineer @Kinetic @Aminroop @Nilgiri

Awesome line:
"Can do has made way for- yes we did it!"

 

[Last Samuri]

MAGNIFICENT VEDIO.

Show casing

Naval military power
Indian Self suffiuciency
Indian economic might
indian professionalism
indian social caring side


THE INDIAN NAVY IS WORLD CLASS NOW

for me THE BEST OF THE THREE services

 

[Nilgiri]

When do you hear the IA reffereing to themselves as a "builder's army" or boasting about their attempts to indigenise? Fair enough the IN is still very relient on foreign products (especially in the top end requirements) but they have at least set the goal of indigenising as much as possible in the near future- the IA doesn't even state its intent to. The IA's top brass just isn't strategically focused outside of the battlefield. As combat leaders they are sublime but as project managers or visionaries they are severely lacking as compared to the IN (and IAF to a lesser extent). One cannot blame the IA entirely- this is a byproduct of their culture and is found in armies around the world. The IN is inherently a very technical force and its officers will have a strategic mindset by the very nature of being a maritime force- the IA is, on the other hand, very sheltered- they still think an army's power is measured in the number of divsions/corps you have.

In essence, I remember the great AT Mahan and other Naval strategists putting forth the view that at a very basic level....the warriors on a boat are contained within its hull....a physical capsule in time and space which they must keep afloat, keep ship-shape and perform their duty with the utmost harmony and serene courage....whether at battle or in adventure. A Navy is not constrained by a country's landmass and takes the responsibility of ambassadorship to far flung remote corners of the World....a never ending mission as long as her sailors draw breath.

The Army and Airforce (which is just an extension of the Army) have no such Capital Vessels of 100s of men...and from that springs an air of superiority and individualism among their generals and policy makers. They never have had the experience or pleasure of Captaining a Ship like an Admiral would have had....they never had to make the same level of solemn unspoken promise to their men that they could count on him to not abandon them when the going gets tough and fire and hot steel surround them.

From this is where the Navy of any nation gets its discipline and highest honour from.... and from this comes the basic reason an Admiral is more likely to want his motherland to ultimately provide the boat with which the adventure can be embarked upon....and battle engaged should the need arise. Because the feeling of taking a part of your country with you wherever you go and going down to the depths with her if needed, is diminished if the boat does not come from her shores.

 

[Abingdonboy]

In essence, I remember the great AT Mahan and other Naval strategists putting forth the view that at a very basic level....the warriors on a boat are contained within its hull....a physical capsule in time and space which they must keep afloat, keep ship-shape and perform their duty with the utmost harmony and serene courage....whether at battle or in adventure. A Navy is not constrained by a country's landmass and takes the responsibility of ambassadorship to far flung remote corners of the World....a never ending mission as long as her sailors draw breath.

The Army and Airforce (which is just an extension of the Army) have no such Capital Vessels of 100s of men...and from that springs an air of superiority and individualism among their generals and policy makers. They never have had the experience or pleasure of Captaining a Ship like an Admiral would have had....they never had to make the same level of solemn unspoken promise to their men that they could count on him to not abandon them when the going gets tough and fire and hot steel surround them.

From this is where the Navy of any nation gets its discipline and highest honour from.... and from this comes the basic reason an Admiral is more likely to want his motherland to ultimately provide the boat with which the adventure can be embarked upon....and battle engaged should the need arise. Because the feeling of taking a part of your country with you wherever you go, is diminished if the boat does not come from her shores.

An exceptional post my friend that explains a lot about the cultures of each branch that has lead to what we see today. @Echo_419 @Aminroop


I would just like to make a few minor points:

1) The "unspoken promise" between an officer/captain and his men in the IN exists in a similar form in the IA. The IA imparts a proud "lead from the front" warrior tradtion in its officers and has a concept of "unlimited liability".

2) On your final part about an Admiral wanting a ship from their shores for reasons relating to pride. I'm sure this plays a part in the compulsions of the Admiral however I think the true reason is one you have stated earlier. The fact that a ship will go to sea for extended periods of time and it is up to the crew to keep her sea worthy during that time means that it will be a far easier task if these ships were indegenious and of your own design. Naturally a ship that you have designed yourself (as the NDB does), built and, just as importantly, maintained in your country by your people is inherently advantageous when it comes to things going wrong/troubleshooting and skilling your crew because at the end of the day that is the most important thing- being able to perform on your own as a self-contained unit and thus the skills have to exsist within your own unit. The IA and IAF on the other hand have the luxery of working with foreign OEMs on the mainland with no issues whatsoever- they can bring in their people or can at least work with you (IAF/IA), the IN needs to be able to do itself.

 

[gslv mk3]

@MaarKhoor , The Indian history is restricted to chapter-1.
Turn over the page and the denial begins with every Indian swinging from trees making the habitual racket.

Boasting about one air raid which itself is a small part of the whole war-one that you lost....

Indian Navy had already moved their missile boats out of Okha.Three days later,IN conducted Operation Python, effectively imposing a Naval blockade on Pakistan.So basically you achieved nothing.