Indian Muslims should have their own consolidated Muslim political party

[K-Xeroid]

Face it - your people thought of forming a country on religious lines, and look where that went. It was realised that a common religion is not what would hold a nation together - it is something else called humanity that holds people together. We in India believe that all humans irrespective of language, religion etc can live together, and believe me, it is not so difficult, if you throw away ancient tribal prejudices and learn to look at everyone without the prism of religion.

With several major religions and hundreds of ethnicities and hundreds of languages, India still manages to live as one, giving your two nation theory a grand middle finger salute.

Ofcourse our people thought of forming nation, Its was Nehru who really played his role to divide india, Well! Where it went? Wat happened? Wat your media tolds ya where it went? tell me?
Really! Humanity? Who taught you? Can't you see? World carries 190+ nations . . having different ideology.. How many peoples got killed in the name of religion and ethinicity in india? there numbers are 1000 times larger then the Pakistani one. You didn't proved anything, There are lots of internal difference and ideologies in your nation. If you think peoples do believe in humanity and don't desire for anything other then mate, You really needs to study alot abut human nature. Different races ,ideologies .They do matters.

 

[Screambowl]

Ofcourse our people thought of forming nation, Its was Nehru who really played his role to divide india, Well! Where it went? Wat happened? Wat your media tolds ya where it went? tell me?
Really! Humanity? Who taught you? Can't you see? World carries 190+ nations . . having different ideology.. How many peoples got killed in the name of religion and ethinicity in india? there numbers are 1000 times larger then the Pakistani one. You didn't proved anything, There are lots of internal difference and ideologies in your nation. If you think peoples do believe in humanity and don't desire for anything other then mate, You really needs to study alot abut human nature. Different races ,ideologies .They do matters.

And meanwhile half of the people killed in any mishappening or violence is because of ISI sponsored terrorism. Add that to you post too.

YOUR DISCUSSION IS OFF TOPIC.

 

[faizahmad]

I support the idea of separate party of Muslims of India. If Narandra Moodi and Bal Thakure type people are active on behalf of Hindus, why shouldn't Muslims have a political representation?

Because religious parties are not development oriented ....... by the way to what has extent religious parties have contributed in pakistan ? can u please elaborate ... ?

Yes...Bangladesh Awami League (BAL).

To what extent ( BAL) has helped in giving equal status to hindus in bangladesh?

 

[janon]

Different races ,ideologies .They do matters.

Only to narrow minded bigots. Others have no problem living with other races. In India it doesn't matter which race you belong to or what skin colour. Same in most stable countries.

And its not like places with one race and one religion are bastions of peace, is it? Take a look at syria, iraq, pakistan or many other countries where muslims have repressed and killed other muslims, people of the same race have opressed each other. India is more stable and peaceful than most countries that beleive in racial purity and other such divisive crap.

As I said before, anekta mein ekta, yeh hind ki visheshta. Something that bigots won't understand.

Keep your racial and religious isolationism to yourself, we are happy to peacefully coexist with anybody.

 

[Bobby]

It is their democratic right; if Indian Muslims want a religion based political party, they should make it. Who are Indian Hindus to advise or stop them!

Who are you to advice them...bug off

 

[Rang De]

I support the idea of separate party of Muslims of India. If Narandra Moodi and Bal Thakure type people are active on behalf of Hindus, why shouldn't Muslims have a political representation?

Wow. are you planning to come here and cast your vote?

 

[faizahmad]

Who are you to advice them...bug off

You are right bro --- we don't ever care about their existence.

 

[Splurgenxs]

Indian Union Muslim League, the successor to the All India Muslim League in the state of Kerala, India

All India Muslim League (2002), formed in the Indian state of Tamil Nadu in 2002

Two all Muslim parties.Guess what?not even Our Muslims Give a shi*
As always a headless chicken flung into a pack of wolves.

 

[divya]

It is their democratic right; if Indian Muslims want a religion based political party, they should make it. Who are Indian Hindus to advise or stop them!

As per the consitution there cannot be a political party on the religious grounds.

 

[Bobby]

Really thats why former india is divided into 3 parts, Religious and Ethinic theories are proved as successful to form a nation. But mate , Why don't you read my previous question carefully , and that question don't belongs to you fanboy.

Who said you don't love your nation? Man ! You really are a newbie. any debate don't create nations . don't be in such a inferiority complex about 2 nation theory.

No..India was divided in 2 parts and then again Muslim Nation divide in 2 part again....Please dont put facts wrongly as you guys always do...

 

[jbond197]

It is their democratic right; if Indian Muslims want a religion based political party, they should make it. Who are Indian Hindus to advise or stop them!

In this thread, all I am seeing is a Pakistani sitting in Canada asking for Political party for Indian Muslims.. Now his BS and democratic rights as non-Indian are not even worth a penny to us.. Don;t act as adviser to Indians, they can think for themselves.. It will be much better if Muslims of Pakistan first form a political party that is even capable of leading their country.. It's funny such extreme failures are even daring to advise others, the intent is clear - they do not like others prospering and work on the principles like - "Hum to Doobay hi Doobay par tumhe bhi saath le kar jaayenge"

Also, two nation theory was a big time failure as you yourself proved that Muslims can not live together.. if you need examples, I can fill pages on this thread..

 

[graphican]

Because religious parties are not development oriented ....... by the way to what has extent religious parties have contributed in pakistan ? can u please elaborate ... ?
To what extent ( BAL) has helped in giving equal status to hindus in bangladesh?

You didn't mention this for the Hindu Parties which are already existing and they are doing their non-developmental "jobs" pretty well. If they are useless, there shouldn't been some movement to eliminate them, but if there is none, there mustn't be a movement to stop creation of a Muslim Party in India.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Why is this thread even running? No article and no source, so why are people- mainly Indians- feeding the troll?

Indian Muslims know that a separate political party is of no use. There is no legal bar on having a separate party and there are 100s of registered parties by the election commissions around a Muslim political agenda. But they don't even get 1% of the Muslim vote. This shows what Indian Muslims really want, that despite the existence of Muslim political parties in India, they still get negligible votes. Most of these political parties jump up and down around election time which shows how sincere they are in the first place.

In fact, compare this to party's like Shiva's Army or Shiv Sena which has a lot of political support and has a number of MLAs and MPs in Maharahstra. And the Indian Union Muslim League that has just 2 MPs in the parliament and no presence outside Kerela.


A political party that uses religion to garner votes rather than a development or economic or social goal is a party that is going to be corrupt. Because it doesn't depend on performance or track record to get votes, all it has to do is scaremonger about religion and people will vote for this party. Indian Muslims have learnt this lesson painfully because of the partition saga and its time everyone else does too.

Thanks for that post, to the point as always. Just one correction, Shiv Sena means army of Shivaji and not Shiv (deity). Their votebank is almost exclusively marathi, and not hindu. Infact most non marathi hindus love to hate this party.

Kind of like how most pakistanis love to hate MQM, or kind of like when the pakistani punjabi terrorists in mumbai found two turkish muslims in a hotel, they let them go unharmed, but then they went on to shoot about sixty Indian muslims dead...and that about ends the debate in the real world, unfortunately not a place where some pakistanis and bangladeshis choose to live in.

You didn't mention this for the Hindu Parties which are already existing and they are doing their non-developmental "jobs" pretty well. If they are useless, there shouldn't been some movement to eliminate them, but if there is none, there mustn't be a movement to stop creation of a Muslim Party in India.

LOL, there are already many muslim parties in India and their names have been posted here already.

But again, you choose to not live in reality and go on your verbal trip LOL!

 

[timetravel]

But the truth is that two nation theory has been an EPIC failure. Same religion did not prevent Bangladesh. Pakistanis need to change their constitution and be a secular country. I say its totally unfair to say that a Hindu/Sikh/Christian Pakistani is not equal to a Muslim Pakistani in his rights or love for the nation, and also saying Pakistan is a Muslim Country is unfair to all the Pakistanis. Pakistan should be the land of every Pakistani be it Hindu/Sikh/Christian/Muslim. At the end of the day what should matter is Humanity and not religion. The day Pakistan realises this and amends its constitution and educational setup to become a progressive, liberal minded and secular nation, Pakistan will start flourishing.

 

[Bhim]

Every where in the world, why only Muslims feel alienated or are always looking for an identity separate from the rest of the world?
What is stopping them from universal integration? Instead of co operation they all talk of getting together to take on the rest of the world.
Why do they always talk of Jihad, killing, separation.
Don't they realize the how world has changed, or has time stopped for them since those medieval times?
What exactly do they want from the world??
Finally, since they do want to always challenge the world order with their so called jihad, then shouldn't the world unite to retaliate and take them out where ever they are on the planet.