Indian muslim :Javed Akhtar's Pakistan

[desioptimist]

Being a muslim I am telling u , I feel much safer here in India than I would have been in Pakistan .
I knw there were riots in 90s and in 2001 in Gujarat .
But tht is now a past .
Now even extremists parties like BJP have stopped their Ram mandir yatra and all tht stuff .
We dont need any reservation to come to the top .
My dad and mom became a doctor in 1960s, so should every muslim have developed .
The muslims being a bit underdeveloped has not to do anything with discrimination but it's related with no belief in western education and a mindset regarding it

Sure my generation's muslim have shown lot of interest in education .
Prior the madaras which use to have almost thousand of students in my locality now hardly has 65 students .
This shows the difference .
Inshallah this generation will show lot of impact on development in muslims .
Some ppl have a belief tht muslims are mistreated while appointment of jobs . Indians are million times better than the US,Uk in this regard

And a post before u said muslims are not up to the mark of Pakistani counterparts .
India's 4th richest man is a muslim with a amount more than the total income of all the Pakistani millionaries

Being a non muslim, I would say there is some discrimination, but situation has improved a lot.
But I would agree, backwardness has more to do with Muslims focusing on political rights till now(as opposed to economic and educational rights).
I can see the same thing happening in UK(Muslims making political groups to make their point heard, rather than focusing on education and economic prosperity), and I fear majority backlash.

 

[jayron]

Naaa! Karan Thapar is intimidating.

I'd put this guy in the league of Prabhu Chawla.

Thats true.. but Karan got owned by Jayalalitha. The only time I saw him retreat.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Everything indian is alien to us, it's unfathomable customs and it's culture, it is a vindication for the two nation theory.

“ It is extremely difficult to appreciate why our Hindu friends fail to understand the real nature of Islam and Hinduism. They are not religions in the strict sense of the word, but are, in fact, different and distinct social orders, and it is a dream that the Hindus and Muslims can ever evolve a common nationality, and this misconception of one Indian nation has troubles and will lead India to destruction if we fail to revise our notions in time. The Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs, litterateurs. They neither intermarry nor interdine together and, indeed, they belong to two different civilizations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions. Their aspect on life and of life are different. It is quite clear that Hindus and Mussalmans derive their inspiration from different sources of history. They have different epics, different heroes, and different episodes. Very often the hero of one is a foe of the other and, likewise, their victories and defeats overlap. To yoke together two such nations under a single state, one as a numerical minority and the other as a majority, must lead to growing discontent and final destruction of any fabric that may be so built for the government of such a state.

And here comes the youtube assault...

BTW, sounds like an erstwhile RSS leader to me..or wait is this from some Muslim League guy?

Hard to tell...

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Thats true.. but Karan got owned by Jayalalitha. The only time I saw him retreat.

Haven't seen it.

 

[T-Faz]

Being a muslim I am telling u , I feel much safer here in India than I would have been in Pakistan .

So are all the minorities and sects within Pakistan who have done well for themselves throughout the years. The situation only deteriorated in recent times and the Islamization was a product was Zia ul Haq which distanced minorities but before that, they were in a great position. Many still are doing very well and enjoy a great lifestyle, just because you have not heard it, does not mean it exists.

I knw there were riots in 90s and in 2001 in Gujarat .

The animosity and the environment remains for any communal clash to occur.

Now even extremists parties like BJP have stopped their Ram mandir yatra and all tht stuff.

Good for them, whats this got to do with the topic.

We dont need any reservation to come to the top.

Neither do most minorities in Pakistan, what does hinder their progress are laws that were only introduced in the 80's.

My dad and mom became a doctor in 1960s, so should every muslim have developed.

Many Indian Muslims migrated to Pakistan in the 60's because we were so prosperous, this includes India's darling Salman Rushdie and his family.

The muslims being a bit underdeveloped has not to do anything with discrimination but it's related with no belief in western education and a mindset regarding it

The opportunity has to be created by the state.

Sure my generation's muslim have shown lot of interest in education .

Debatable, interest does not mean actual education.

Prior the madaras which use to have almost thousand of students in my locality now hardly has 65 students .
This shows the difference .

Again, Madrassa can also provide an excellent education but the lack of development within its framework and muslim negligence has tarnished its image.

Inshallah this generation will show lot of impact on development in muslims.

Inshallah, I hope so.

Some ppl have a belief tht muslims are mistreated while appointment of jobs . Indians are million times better than the US,Uk in this regard

Don't over do it, US, UK are havens for any minority based on the quality of life they offer.

And a post before u said muslims are not up to the mark of Pakistani counterparts .
India's 4th richest man is a muslim with a amount more than the total income of all the Pakistani millionaries

Come down Pakistan one day, I will show you the kind of wealth we have and how we spend it.

Plus we have a lot of billionaires which includes Ayubs 22 families who own more than 50% of our national industries.

 

[Rafi]

And here comes the youtube assault...

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Haven't seen it.

It's good to be feared. lol

 

[Water Car Engineer]

I am surprised it is coming from people who drink phensydyl to get a high due to the non-availability of good booze.

LMAO!! I am sure there are quite a bit of "good" Muslims, Hindus, Christians on this forum.

 

[fida jan]

He acts like a pretentious , arrogant D**** bag without listening to the guest. Reminds me of Karan Thapar.

he is not only a host, he is not just hosting the program, and that stupid jawed guy is not just giving an interview, they are having an exchange on words because that jawed guy is crossing his limits, he is accusing the foundations of pakistan, accusing muslim league, any pakistani cant tolerate just by sitting and taking the interview

its a big courage of the host to invite jawed retard and ask about his opinions, the host must have slapped this hindutwa BJP extremist for talking like a persistent retard in the end the host did boiled for inviting this garbage indi for an interview,

this indie guy must stick only to entertainment industry and writing love poems to his darling then talking shitt about pakistan

if u r looking for such douche bags go to ndtv and search for them...

 

[Rafi]

Not all milk and honey.

 

[FNFAL]

Being a muslim I am telling u , I feel much safer here in India than I would have been in Pakistan .
I knw there were riots in 90s and in 2001 in Gujarat .
But tht is now a past .
Now even extremists parties like BJP have stopped their Ram mandir yatra and all tht stuff .
We dont need any reservation to come to the top .
My dad and mom became a doctor in 1960s, so should every muslim have developed .
The muslims being a bit underdeveloped has not to do anything with discrimination but it's related with no belief in western education and a mindset regarding it

Sure my generation's muslim have shown lot of interest in education .
Prior the madaras which use to have almost thousand of students in my locality now hardly has 65 students .
This shows the difference .
Inshallah this generation will show lot of impact on development in muslims .
Some ppl have a belief tht muslims are mistreated while appointment of jobs . Indians are million times better than the US,Uk in this regard

And a post before u said muslims are not up to the mark of Pakistani counterparts .
India's 4th richest man is a muslim with a amount more than the total income of all the Pakistani millionaries

trust me on this bro...after reading your & indian jatts posts i feel proud to live in a secular culture which has mature people repeesenting evry sect.

hell i am now even comfy being called "bharti" by pak members ...atleast that short form is not a slang when comapared to our neighbours

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

It's good to be feared. lol

lol ya...I fear spammers. They spoil the fun in debating.

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Not all milk and honey.

SO IT BEGINS...

 

[Zeeshan360]

I am surprised it is coming from muslims who drink phensydyl to get a high due to the non-availability of good booze.

Even Sleeping barbiruates give a good booze .

 

[RoYaL~GuJJaR]

Not all milk and honey.

Keep beating this Decade Old incident..! After all thats all you can do?

 

[Durrak]

Simply he is no one to tell us about the creation of Pakistan

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Simply he is no one to tell us about the creation of Pakistan

Simply, your guy should not have asked him the question.

If you don't have the guts to hear the answer, then why do you ask the question?

Jawab sun ne kii himmat nahin hai toh sawal kyun poochte ho?

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

He acts like a pretentious , arrogant D**** bag without listening to the guest. Reminds me of Karan Thapar.

I quite liked the way Karan thapar took ram jethmalani's case in the context of the jessica murder case though .