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Reasons for Limiting Agni’s Range
News stories indicate that India decided not to develop an ICBM to avoid creating tension with the international community, particularly while the U.S.-India nuclear trade deal is still pending. [8] Shortly before news reports of the range cap, then Indian President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam, a key figure in the country’s missile development program, revealed that after the Agni-III test in April, several unnamed countries had refused to export polyacrylonitrile (PAN) fiber to India. [9] This material is an essential precursor in the manufacture of carbon fiber, used for missile bodies and components. Given the high re-entry speeds of ICBM warheads, carbon-fiber-based ablative materials would be needed for the heat shields of ICBM reentry vehicles. Kalam may have had this use in mind when he referred to PAN as “critical” for the ICBM program to proceed. [10] While there is no other public information on the denial of this item, whose export is regulated under the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR), it is possible that this was an indication of potential pressures on India not to pursue an intercontinental-range system. By capping India’s missile program, New Delhi apparently hopes to demonstrate to the international community that its strategic interests and threat perceptions are restricted to Asia and do not impact any Western power. [11]

Importance of a 5,000-km Range
India may be seeking a missile with a 5,000-km-range so it can credibly target major cities in China without the constraint of having to base its strategic missiles in eastern India, near the Chinese border. If based in central or southern India, an Agni-III missile with a range of 3,500 km would not be able to reach northern and eastern China, where major cities, such as Beijing, Nanjing, and Shanghai, are located. [16] A 5,000-km Indian missile could reach these targets from such bases, however, offering New Delhi considerably greater strategic depth and enabling India to keep its retaliatory forces beyond the range of all but China’s most capable missiles. It has also been suggested that Indian missile designers seek more powerful missiles not to increase the range of these systems, but to increase their payload capacities, in order to accommodate India’s “heavier proven warheads.” [17] Both the 3,500-km-range Agni-III and the 5,000-km-range Agni-III*/Agni-IV would allow India to strike targets in Pakistan from bases beyond the range of Pakistan’s most capable missile systems.

The Surya
For several years, there have been periodic reports that an ICBM named Surya has been under development by the Indian government. [19] After the April 2007 Agni-III test, there was speculation that the Surya ICBM was in development, but the recent reports on the extension of the Agni-III (into the Agni-III* or Agni-IV) do not mention the Surya. [20] As characterized in the past, the Surya was to have a range of 9,000-10,000 km or possibly more. [21] India’s recent announcement of the missile-range cap suggests that this project is no longer being actively pursued.

INDIA AND PAKISTAN MISSILE RACE SURGES ON
 
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Don't disrespect the history of the Chinese civilisation.

List of Chinese inventions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anyway there is so little people to people contacts with the people of Pakistan and China. In fact over here, Pakistanis mix only with Pakistanis or Indians.

In contrast India and China has extremely good people-people contacts.. mmmm...

Thanks for the clarification!

Infact, many Indian will laugh when we say Chinese is the first to employ the rocket.
 
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Yes, there is a report on Surya! But can anyone confirm it! Who develop it?

The development has either been paused or is being concealed. One thing, however, is for sure that India did started the development of Surya and it is very well in the capacity to be developed. The issue is not of technology or capability but of government consent. And that consent would be provided or not provided based on the threat perceptions and actual requirements. Currently, the missile development will halt with Agni-V, in terms of range.
 
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Infact, many Indian will laugh when we say Chinese is the first to employ the rocket.

Only those who have not done their schooling properly. China gave an even more important invention to the world - paper.
 
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The development has either been paused or is being concealed. One thing, however, is for sure that India did started the development of Surya and it is very well in the capacity to be developed. The issue is not of technology or capability but of government consent. And that consent would be provided or not provided based on the threat perceptions and actual requirements. Currently, the missile development will halt with Agni-V, in terms of range.

well in next year you will see agni5 and then on surya

govt is thinking about surya but first then want agni5:cheers:
 
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Thanks for the clarification!

Infact, many Indian will laugh when we say Chinese is the first to employ the rocket.

Yes China has many inventions in its name... most important is PAPER.
But I heard somewhere that rocket was first used by Tippu sultan of Mysore, India... can you let me know the date of the rocket invention in China?
 
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But none of the inventions and partcularily any of the military tech and space inventions would not have been possible without mathematical calculations - and all this was impossible without the INDIAN ZERO !.

Even Einstein Acknowledged it.
 
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I don't get your point about that goes out for China/Taiwan. Taiwan has good relationship with the US. Also, US is selling weapons to Taiwan.

I hope most Indians are not as belligerant as you are when talking about Taiwan. Do you know that the Taiwanese government claims South Tibet? Also, India has no ability to reach Taiwan as its inferior ships would be sunk by the sea on its way there. India should worry about Americans and Chinese in Indian Ocean before worrying about trying to attack Taiwan. What a senseless statement you made. But its typical.

just one thing

India and Taiwan have good relations in field of defence ..... and as for our ships being sunk etc ... its not true and we definitely do not see any point of contention/confrontation with Taiwan

in addition, there was a plan on using Jaguar IMs of IN with drop tanks in case of need ... to hit mainland China eastern seaboard with ACs being landed/ditched near Taiwan and pilots handing themselves over to Taiwan ...... this was in 80s.

we have good warm relations albeit unofficially with Taiwanese defence forces ... please desist from posting/ignore any thing to contrary

thanks
 
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Thanks for the clarification!

Infact, many Indian will laugh when we say Chinese is the first to employ the rocket.

No

Its well known China was first to develop & employ Rocket. But the battlefield significance was first time seen and recorded when Tipu Sultan used them in India. As India and China never ever kept records for use of Europeans, and both ended up being colonies, these facts are little known.

Its similar to JC Bose being first to use radiowaves to ring a wireless bell but Marconi being given the benefit of being the inventor!! (which was 1 year later)
 
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In the hindsight, testing of BM's like Agni-III, and upcoming longer version has happening with tremandous delays mainly due to lower political will. Deployment of Agni-III is decade behind schedule as far as its first supposed testing was concerned during 2002-03.
 
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Agni V should have at most 8000-9000 thousand Kilometers range otherwise the project would be a waste of money. :azn:
 
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