Indian Missiles are Superior to Chinese in Quality, Says Experts

[chauism]

somewhere in the Indian ocean. but the question once more was not about Indian built hardware in my contention. the Indian leased nuclear sub is far superior to yours. for that matter nobody knows what the hell you have within the guts of your subs, your govt hides its specs to benchmark.

China had already moved on with Type 093 SSNs and been constructing Type 095 SSN. So the five Type 091 Han SSNs is nothing more than a relic now and of course they are noisy, however at least China had built a nuclear submarine more than 40 years ago on its and without any foreign assistance.

So by your logic, I can say that India Air force is crap because it still flies old airplane like mig-21 from 60s, and it keeps falling off the sky even without any enemies to face them.

 

[sweetgrape]

Too much western and indian criticize china for lack of transparency, I don't know how did he get the information, Even CIA don't know these. Maybe he lack of money to eat, just to attract some attention to let people know he is a "expert"!! HEHE!!!

 

[SQ8]

We are taking about indian missile visa vis chinese missile , are n't we ??

While indians surely have some russian assistance , then Chiese received much larger and much longer Soviet/Russian assistance since the 60s when they started building nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles.

Indian nuclear weapon program was by far indigenous and spun off from the civilian nuclear program pioneered by Dr Homi Bhaba.
Similarly our missile program that started in mid 80s drew technical knowhow from our space program by ISRO .The Agni missile is actually based on a American Rocket, indian scientist APJ Kalam had the opportunity to study at NASA on a academic stay.

So yes we had some assistance from outside , but they are comparatively less than what other countries e,g china received from Russia ,and also from the west. Whatever assistance we got it was transparent and legal. We didn't blatantly copy weapons imported and sell it as our product like the Chinese do .

And Brohmos isn't just made by Russian assistance ,but its a fullfledged joint venture between india and Russia.We can't sell it other countries or use its technology in other weapon systems without the assent of Russia.

So did you at some point.. less or more.
And the brahmos is also based on the 3M55 Oniks..

Point being..
you did not reinvent the wheel.. nor did China..
You took the wheel as it was provided to you.. made it better possibly.
But it still came from somewhere.

 

[JayAtl]

China had already moved on with Type 093 SSNs and been constructing Type 095 SSN. So the five Type 091 Han SSNs is nothing more than a relic now and of course they are noisy, however at least China had built a nuclear submarine more than 40 years ago on its and without any foreign assistance.

So by your logic, I can say that India Air force is crap because it still flies old airplane like mig-21 from 60s, and it keeps falling off the sky even without any enemies to face them.

no- by mylogic, the IAF with newer migs in the arsenal and new French aircrafts would be far superior to your tin can aircrafts. Btw, it is very easy to comment about aircrafts falling out of the sky that 40 years old because of indian free press but we wonder how come we never hear about Chinese aircrafts failings in your media. Certainly given the general quality of Chinese stuff , you have not mastered to be the only super duper aircrafts with no crash records and have best internal guts - specs of which that need to be hidden from the world.

again , it is not about your indigenous building , its about quality . Quality of your stuff is 20 yrs behind its counterpart in India. because India has access to western buys that you don't. sure you can build a car but how does it compete with a Ferrari?

 

[rohailmalhi]

no- by mylogic, the IAF with newer migs in the arsenal and new French aircrafts would be far superior to your tin can aircrafts. Btw, it is very easy to comment about aircrafts falling out of the sky that 40 years old because of indian free press but we wonder how come we never hear about Chinese aircrafts failings in your media. Certainly given the general quality of Chinese stuff , you have not mastered to be the only super duper aircrafts with no crash records and have best internal guts - specs of which that need to be hidden from the world.

again , it is not about your indigenous building , its about quality . Quality of your stuff is 20 yrs behind its counterpart in India. because India has access to western buys that you don't. sure you can build a car but how does it compete with a Ferrari?

This is what a senior indian member on this forum has to contribute . Come on U guys can do much more better than this.

On topic :

The article is factless. The auther has no clue what chinese missile arsenal is .

Quality : They are providing the world with the z million type of quality .U can get a ,b,c d, e.t.c class quality. I dont know abt india what they import from china like what class of products. But i know one thing Today Ericsson is feeling the heat of ZTE and huwaii.......... and many other companies. If there quality is so sick then they wont be of any competition to Multinational but they are giving them good time.

MIRV : U think only u got this tech (Not proven by any fact , nor experiment not even a statement from a scientist or so), no i dont think so . We were speculating that Pakistan may have this tech and they will test it on the time they need to show the world they have it.China is going in the leagues of Super powers they have much more. They are developing at fast pace. Even i was reading there are few projects that are in comparison with west.

Man accept the TRUTH that they are developing at lighting speed.

India is just starting u may catch up by not anytime soon as i see it.

The author has written this article for local consumption just to satisfy the ego of indian that their tech is very best blah blah...


I hope u all get my points.

 

[Ambitious.Asian]

China had already moved on with Type 093 SSNs and been constructing Type 095 SSN. So the five Type 091 Han SSNs is nothing more than a relic now and of course they are noisy, however at least China had built a nuclear submarine more than 40 years ago on its and without any foreign assistance.

So by your logic, I can say that India Air force is crap because it still flies old airplane like mig-21 from 60s, and it keeps falling off the sky even without any enemies to face them.

it's being better to fly original aircrafts instead of flying reverse engineered ones

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

it's being better to fly original aircrafts instead of flying reverse engineered ones

Mig-21 is original? What part of Mig, 2, or 1 don't you understand?

 

[rcrmj]

and here I thought Chinese claimed to have a high IQ. the question was not about indigenous production or home made systems in my claim. My claim was about quality in addition to the claim made in the article . Even a child would be able to deduct that when your own chief says china is 20 years behind western military technology and those same western countries offer their top systems to India. then the quality of Indian hardware/ inventory is 20 times better than yours. and yes India is making its subs which would be better than your noisy tin pots. you should be happy india is importing small stuff from china. its helps with population control in china , after all more people are forced into hard labor camps and more go the* cough * foxconn way

again all i can see is empty claim``which toys are 20 years ahead of China's atm? none, and where is your indian sub? but the 'noisy' Chinese sub manages to sneak into US's carrier battle groups during excersies and enters Japanese water, guess their sub detection techs are not as 'good' as Indian's painted toys
Chinese Sub Approached US Aircraft Carrier Undetected (this is the old Chinese sub)
Chinese submarine enters Japanese waters - Wikinews, the free news source
http://www.*********************/na...es-undetected-behind-uss-kitty-hawk-2603.html
Chinese Sub Pops Up Undetected in U.S. Navy Exercise | Cleveland Leader

 

[Bonus]

This is what a senior indian member on this forum has to contribute . Come on U guys can do much more better than this.

On topic :

The article is factless. The auther has no clue what chinese missile arsenal is .

Quality : They are providing the world with the z million type of quality .U can get a ,b,c d, e.t.c class quality. I dont know abt india what they import from china like what class of products. But i know one thing Today Ericsson is feeling the heat of ZTE and huwaii.......... and many other companies. If there quality is so sick then they wont be of any competition to Multinational but they are giving them good time.

MIRV : U think only u got this tech (Not proven by any fact , nor experiment not even a statement from a scientist or so), no i dont think so . We were speculating that Pakistan may have this tech and they will test it on the time they need to show the world they have it.China is going in the leagues of Super powers they have much more. They are developing at fast pace. Even i was reading there are few projects that are in comparison with west.

Man accept the TRUTH that they are developing at lighting speed.

India is just starting u may catch up by not anytime soon as i see it.

The author has written this article for local consumption just to satisfy the ego of indian that their tech is very best blah blah...


I hope u all get my points.

^^^^^^^

here comes the cheer leading gals...
yaa your chinese bosses are the best,,,

again all i can see is empty claim``which toys are 20 years ahead of China's atm? none, and where is your indian sub? but the 'noisy' Chinese sub manages to sneak into US's carrier battle groups during excersies and enters Japanese water, guess their sub detection techs are not as 'good' as Indian's painted toys
Chinese Sub Approached US Aircraft Carrier Undetected (this is the old Chinese sub)
Chinese submarine enters Japanese waters - Wikinews, the free news source
http://www.*********************/na...es-undetected-behind-uss-kitty-hawk-2603.html
Chinese Sub Pops Up Undetected in U.S. Navy Exercise | Cleveland Leader

the poor chinese sub has to pop out of water .. and show itself to US big guns before they took it off.. that was a clean surrender.. nothing more than that,,,

 

[Broccoli]

Indian test, tested MIRV?

Nope, Indians have never tested any warhead designs outside computer simulators. That is the reason why Agni V's current warhead is so large, they need more material because they aren't sure if it will have enough yield otherwise. Agni V's warhead is proof that Indians haven't mastered warhead miniaturization, and some people still claim that Agni V is going to carry up to 13 MIRVs.

All these claims of 13 MIRVs and CEP of 40m are just fanboyism at it's worst.

 

[rcrmj]

no- by mylogic, the IAF with newer migs in the arsenal and new French aircrafts would be far superior to your tin can aircrafts. Btw, it is very easy to comment about aircrafts falling out of the sky that 40 years old because of indian free press but we wonder how come we never hear about Chinese aircrafts failings in your media. Certainly given the general quality of Chinese stuff , you have not mastered to be the only super duper aircrafts with no crash records and have best internal guts - specs of which that need to be hidden from the world.

again , it is not about your indigenous building , its about quality . Quality of your stuff is 20 yrs behind its counterpart in India. because India has access to western buys that you don't. sure you can build a car but how does it compete with a Ferrari?

i have heard techs' advancement can be measured in time like 10 years 20 years, never heard quality can be mesured in time``lol
you are as clueless as a drunken monkey``lol

^^^^^^^

here comes the cheer leading gals...
yaa your chinese bosses are the best,,,



the poor chinese sub has to pop out of water .. and show itself to US big guns before they took it off.. that was a clean surrender.. nothing more than that,,,

kid too much bollywood cheap sinces for you``lol`

after primitive india can manage to make a sub then give it a try like that, then come here to share your bharti experience

Nope, Indians have never tested any warhead designs outside computer simulators. That is the reason why Agni V's current warhead is so large, they need more material because they aren't sure if it will have enough yield otherwise. Agni V's warhead is proof that Indians haven't mastered warhead miniaturization, and some people still claim that Agni V is going to carry up to 13 MIRVs.

All these claims of 13 MIRVs and CEP of 40m are just fanboyism at it's worst.

if anyone has a bit knowledge of ICBM then they'd know 40m CEP is as BS as pig runs faster than horses

 

[Don777]

Nope, Indians have never tested any warhead designs outside computer simulators. That is the reason why Agni V's current warhead is so large, they need more material because they aren't sure if it will have enough yield otherwise. Agni V's warhead is proof that Indians haven't mastered warhead miniaturization, and some people still claim that Agni V is going to carry up to 13 MIRVs.

All these claims of 13 MIRVs and CEP of 40m are just fanboyism at it's worst.

And how do you know that, RAW agents came to inform you. Are you expert of Warhead?

 

[Bonus]

i have heard techs' advancement can be measured in time like 10 years 20 years, never heard quality can be mesured in time``lol
you are as clueless as a drunken monkey``lol

kid too much bollywood cheap sinces for you``lol`

after primitive india can manage to make a sub then give it a try like that, then come here to share your bharti experience


if anyone has a bit knowledge of ICBM then they'd know 40m CEP is as BS as pig runs faster than horses

kiddo you need some good real world knowledge before i waste my time on you... chinese are copying decade old soviet tech,,,
nothing else.. i dont see these copied machines as any threat ... the best you cn do is support rough failed regimes like north korea and pakistan who doesnt have any option but to accept your weapons ...

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

kiddo you need some good real world knowledge before i waste my time on you... chinese are copying decade old soviet tech,,,
nothing else.. i dont see these copied machines as any threat ... the best you cn do is support rough failed regimes like north korea and pakistan who doesnt have any option but to accept your weapons ...

that's bad news for you since that means we are superior as people, being able to completely defeat you and all with these "copied machines".

 

[Bonus]

that's bad news for you since that means we are genetically superior in all aspects, being able to completely defeat you and all with these "copied machines".

defeat .... haha .. i dont see PRC holdin up tibet much longer... forget about defeating