Indian Missiles are Superior to Chinese in Quality, Says Experts

[Aramsogo]

degree of deviation is not CEP but data to calculate the approx CEP of the missile. and In the case of agni5 it is lesser than 3 decimal points.



CEP is CEP but degree of deviation is not CEP

Look, unit of measure is unit of measure. Russian CEP is 240. Indians claim their CEP is 40.

One person is a liar. My bet is on Indians.

 

[Ambitious.Asian]

Master the hydrogen bomb first. A little Hiroshima bomb didn't bring Japan to the stone age.

A little boy was very little powerfull years back...did't u think that

today's arsenal of India is enough to put any enemy in stone age...

DRDO does not need any H or N bomb for China........

Agni missiles are far too accurate and rich of radioactive warheads.....so why waste time on other things, But hopefully Hydrogen is very near for us...

 

[Rig Vedic]

So who claimed this CEP? This has always been my question. Most agency won't disclose the true number for CEP of the missiles unless they have the intention to sell. Most of those numbers come from outside observers' estimate.

Maybe some media outlets quoting anonymous sources.

 

[Ambitious.Asian]

Look, unit of measure is unit of measure. Russian CEP is 240. Indians claim their CEP is 40.

One person is a liar. My bet is on Indians.

but sadly chinese CEP is +600

clinic all clear

 

[Aramsogo]

American expression, you don't bring a knife (fission Kilotons) to a gun fight (fusion Megatons)

A little boy was very little powerfull years back...did't u think that

today's arsenal of India is enough to put any enemy in stone age...

DRDO does not need any H or N bomb for China........

Agni missiles are far too accurate and rich of radioactive warheads.....so why waste time on other things, But hopefully Hydrogen is very near for us...

but sadly chinese CEP is +600

clinic all clear

And Real Indian CEP is +1 km.

 

[Screambowl]

Look, unit of measure is unit of measure. Russian CEP is 240. Indians claim their CEP is 40.

One person is a liar. My bet is on Indians.

CEP of Agni 3 is said to be between 40-100. Not Agni5's .

And Degree of deviation means, how much degrees of angle the missile has deviated per 1km, per 10, per 100km .. and for Agni5 it is claimed to be very rare and unique. You can search on the net.

 

[Aramsogo]

CEP of Agni 3 is said to be between 40-100. Not Agni5's .

And Degree of deviation means, how much degrees of angle the missile has deviated per 1km, per 10, per 100km .. and for Agni5 it is claimed to be very rare and unique. You can search on the net. One may lie about the CEP but degree of deviation during flight is an important data and there is no need to lie about it.

BS you are 8 times better than Russians. Pure BS.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

A poorly researched article to begin with.

It definitely changed certain equations between troubled neighbours India and China. Some of the immediate psychological effects were already felt in media reports from both countries.

At this instance the only advantage is Agni 5 can be launched from anywhere in India and can strike anywhere in China.

whereas the test did not go down well with the Chinese media. Much of the media reported how the Chinese nuclear arsenal is quite stronger than that of India and how India is no match for China.

Expected especially when some sections of our media cheaply termed the missile as "China killer"


Kondapalli says: "No doubt when it comes to quantity, Chinese missiles are overwhelmingly superior. But when it comes to the

Propellant

Liquid propellants take 10 days to 2 weeks to fill the barrels in order to ready the missiles and there is no surprise in doing that and this will be a delayed strike. But Indian missiles can strike anytime from anywhere.

Has this guy confused an SLV with a liquid propellant missile?

Accuracy

When it comes to accuracy level of the missiles, once again the Indian missiles score over the Chinese. The Circular Error Probable (CEP) of India specific "DF21" missiles which are deployed in traditional Tibet is much lower compared to India's China-specific missile.

India may have an edge in accuracy, because of technologies readily available in this era, but how much difference does CEP make for strategic missiles?

The Chinese missiles are in the inaccuracy range 600 metres while Indian missiles have an inaccuracy of 20 metres. This means Indian missiles have a higher probability of hitting the target right.

Even our own DRDO scientists said Agni 5's CEP was a few 100 meters.


MIRV

Many of the Indian missiles have the technology of Multiple Independently Targetable re-entry Vehicle (MIRV) in them. In simpler terms, one carrier can launch more than one missile, say 10 missiles and at 10 different targeting locations. And this cannot be shot down.

We have not tested such capability, we have tested the concept of it space.

The effectiveness of such missiles were already seen when Saddam Hussein used them during the Iraq-Israel war.

MRIVs were used in combat? did Iraq-Israel have a war?

Once again very few Chinese missiles have this technology when compared to India.

India has none at the moment.

On the contrary, Chinese authorities claim the recent Agni-5 has a range of 8,000 kilometres and it is Europe-specific. This is clearly to divert global attention from the real issue and trying to isolate India from other nations, according to Kondapalli.

This may be true, if the missile truly had an 8000 km, i''m sure Western experts too would have noticed and shown concern.

Adding to that, China has territorial disputes with Japan and has disputes with India over oil wells

India has disputes over China on oil wells?

These frictions are constant with all other nations which is because China did not maintain a healthy relationship with them, concludes Kondapalli.

With which other nations? China has solved border disputes with most of the her neighbors.

 

[Rig Vedic]

But hopefully Hydrogen is very near for us...

H-bomb can be tested any time, but there are political implications.

The first test was not satisfactory.

It could take another 5 or 6 tests which will have to wait until the atmosphere is conducive.

 

[Ambitious.Asian]

American expression, you don't bring a knife (fission Kilotons) to a gun fight (fusion Megatons)

by the way fusion is still On in Drdo secret labs....

 

[Screambowl]

BS you are 8 times better than Russians. Pure BS.

If you are comparing Agni5 or Agni 3 with Bulava then you need to recheck yourself.

My only point is, A5 is termed as one of the most accurate missiles in its category!!

 

[JayAtl]

Those Subs in the article are Han class SSN, China had them for 40 years already, and no one said that they are quite. Again where is your nuclear sub?

somewhere in the Indian ocean. but the question once more was not about Indian built hardware in my contention. the Indian leased nuclear sub is far superior to yours. for that matter nobody knows what the hell you have within the guts of your subs, your govt hides its specs to benchmark.

 

[chauism]

A poorly researched article to begin with.



At this instance the only advantage is Agni 5 can be launched from anywhere in India and can strike anywhere in China.



Expected especially when some sections of our media cheaply termed the missile as "China killer"


Kondapalli says: "No doubt when it comes to quantity, Chinese missiles are overwhelmingly superior. But when it comes to the

Propellant




Has this guy confused an SLV with a liquid propellant missile?

Accuracy



India may have an edge in accuracy, because of technologies readily available in this era, but how much difference does CEP make for strategic missiles?



Even our own DRDO scientists said Agni 5's CEP was a few 100 meters.


MIRV



We have not tested such capability, we have tested the concept of it space.



MRIVs were used in combat? did Iraq-Israel have a war?



India has none at the moment.




This may be true, if the missile truly had an 8000 km, i''m sure Western experts too would have noticed and shown concern.



India has disputes over China on oil wells?



With which other nations? China have solved border disputes with most of the her neighbors.

Long time no see, things has been very different here without you guys? I am wondering when Joe Shear could join here.

 

[illusion8]

Does this mean we are free from random Chinese warnings?

 

[Manas]

Missile defence system ready for induction: DRDO chief - Indian Express

India’s missile defence system is ready for induction, V K Saraswat, chief of Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO), has said.

A two-layer shield will be put over the national capital, Saraswat said. He confirmed that the system has already destroyed incoming missiles in four tests.

“We have identified the advanced air defence (AAD) missile and the PAD which has no acronym and is for exo-atmospheric interception (upwards of 30 km). The AAD is for endo-atmospheric interception. In two layers we intend to put it as part of the Delhi (air) defence,” Saraswat said in an interview to The Indian Express Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta for NDTV 24X7’s ‘Walk the Talk’ programme.

Saraswat said DRDO had used modified Prithvi missiles as simulated targets and demonstrated the capability of hitting missiles with the range of over 2,000 km. The Indian system is at par with the US Patriot 3 missile defence system, he said.

Asked when the system would be put in place over the capital, Saraswat said, “This system is now ready for induction.”

The nuclear capable Agni V missile which India tested successfully last week has “taken deterrence of the country to a high level”, Saraswat said. The missile will be ready for induction in two years, he said.

The DRDO chief described Agni V as a 5,000-km plus missile with a maximum range of 5,500-5,800 km.

He said there was no pressure at any time to understate the range.

“We have not understated the range. As a missile designer and a person also involved a lot in policy planning, (I can say) we as a nation don’t have to hide anything with respect to our capabilities,” Saraswat said.

China’s state-run Global Times had reported that India cut Agni V’s range from the original 9,000 km under NATO pressure. The daily also quoted a Chinese military researcher as saying the missile could actually hit targets 8,000 km away.

Saraswat said the Tatra trucks, which have become controversial following Army Chief Gen V K Singh’s bribery allegations, have been in use since 1986, and DRDO has never had a problem with them. He disclosed that India’s wheel mounted strategic defence too is based on Tatra systems. “For strategic deterrence, we have rail systems and we have wheel based systems. Whereever we have wheeled systems, it is Tatra,” Saraswat said.

He also revealed that DRDO is working on an improved Armour Piercing Fin Stabilised Discarding Sabot (APFSDS) anti-tank ammunition, of which the Army faces a severe shortage. The scientist said the shortage of ammunition was because imports had not worked out for a higher grade of the system required after Kargil.