Indian Human Space Testflight- Booster Delivered

[NAVDEEP DHALIWAL]

Lol.. your u are delusion. Then u came in what rank for manned mission , space lifting capacity and lunar soft landing. It just like u win one gold olympic medals and decide u r better against another 8 gold medal champion. Indian space agency is behind China. Absolutely, no doubt about it.

You can keep screaming and shouting against it but CNSA is miles ahead of Indian space agency with hard fact.

You are comparing oranges with apples. ISRO works totally differently than Chinese or American space agency.
Indians here are just bragging and dont know the real purpose of ISRO.

Just search isro budget of each year, than compare it with money spent by China and US that year on Space.
Than do a unbiased thinking and you know why isro does the the things (Like taking us help & sending very small satellite, instead of big rocket high payload like China us etc.)
I'm realy proud of isro, it didn't went the nasa or China way and doing its own thing.

 

[Han Patriot]

Well, Indian boys in BR, what can you expect from them?
Remember Mr Chola? The one who insisted that J-10 was purely a fake in 2003?
Last year, he was accused of "Chinese propaganda mouth" by his fellow there for putting on too much pictures of Chinese weapons.

Ahhh the infamous BR Chola, some of his analysis is pretty decent but 20 years ago, he was an ultra anti China hawk and sceptic. Nowadays, he is a secret admirer in awe, always getting screwed by the admin for being a propaganda tool of China. He might be lurking here.... Lol

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Harsh landing back on earth, with a reality check in the new era of all-pandemics subtropical climate earth.

Major upset as the original plan was not even realistic to begin with.

Indian astronaut will not be sent to space when the country celebrates its 75th year of Independence in 2022!

Beware Team Bharat, team North Korea-Iran, Turkey, and now even Myanmar will all claim this most coveted 4th place as a manned spacefaring power!

Remember the The Tortoise and the Hare fable?

Gaganyaan manned mission not before 2023: Minister

Surendra Singh / TNN / Feb 17, 2021, 02:07 IST

NEW DELHI: The Gaganyaan manned mission, hit by the pandemic-triggered restrictions, has been further delayed and India’s maiden human spaceflight launch is not likely before 2023. “First unmanned mission is planned in December 2021.

Second unmanned flight is planned in 2022-23, followed by human spaceflight demonstration,” Union minister of state for space Jitendra Singh told the Lok Sabha in a written reply recently. Isro chairman K Sivan told TOI that a “human-rated GSLV MkIII rocket with a modified top portion involving provision for a crew module and a crew escape system is being readied for the first unmanned mission in December and a humanoid to be sent on it will be ready by October”.

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▲ 1. The 4 main milestones incrementally more complex in preparation for the orbital manned flight.

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▲ 2. Some of the Turkish space launchers in development.

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

Harsh landing back on earth, with a reality check in the new era of all-pandemics subtropical climate earth.

Major upset as the original plan was not even realistic to begin with.

Indian astronaut will not be sent to space when the country celebrates its 75th year of Independence in 2022!

Beware Team Bharat, team North Korea-Iran, Turkey, and now even Myanmar will all claim this most coveted 4th place as a manned spacefaring power!

Remember the The Tortoise and the Hare fable?

Gaganyaan manned mission not before 2023: Minister​

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Surendra Singh / TNN / Feb 17, 2021, 02:07 IST​

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NEW DELHI: The Gaganyaan manned mission, hit by the pandemic-triggered restrictions, has been further delayed and India’s maiden human spaceflight launch is not likely before 2023. “First unmanned mission is planned in December 2021.​

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Second unmanned flight is planned in 2022-23, followed by human spaceflight demonstration,” Union minister of state for space Jitendra Singh told the Lok Sabha in a written reply recently. Isro chairman K Sivan told TOI that a “human-rated GSLV MkIII rocket with a modified top portion involving provision for a crew module and a crew escape system is being readied for the first unmanned mission in December and a humanoid to be sent on it will be ready by October”. ​

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▲ 1. The 4 main milestones incrementally more complex in preparation for the orbital manned flight.

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▲ 2. Some of the Turkish space launchers in development.

the sky won't fall if we deplayed it to a better time. We should have all scientists safe and sound before any work is started.

 

[j20611]

the sky won't fall if we deplayed it to a better time. We should have all scientists safe and sound before any work is started.

If you guys weren’t too busy with kiddie **** you would have done it by now

India’s child pornography consumption spikes by 95% during coronavirus lockdown: report | The Express Tribune

New data shows 200 per cent increase in searches for videos showing children bleeding, choking, tortured or in pain

tribune.com.pk

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

If you guys weren’t too busy with kiddie **** you would have done it by now

India’s child pornography consumption spikes by 95% during coronavirus lockdown: report | The Express Tribune

New data shows 200 per cent increase in searches for videos showing children bleeding, choking, tortured or in pain

tribune.com.pk

if you guys didn't let loose the wuhan virus on the world we would have done it by now. Virus spreader.

 

[j20611]

if you guys didn't let loose the wuhan virus on the world we would have done it by now. Virus spreader.

Why Don’t You cry about it instead of fuking children you child molestring pricks

 

[ni8mare]

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Before you claim this "most coveted 4th place as a manned spacefaring power!", you may try not to PS and repurposed ISROs slides

https://twitter.com/x/status/1307854581515382785

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Before you claim this "most coveted 4th place as a manned spacefaring power!", you may try not to PS and repurposed ISROs slides

https://twitter.com/x/status/1307854581515382785

India can not be competing for the 4th place because since 2003 and the epoch making Shenzhou-5 flight that propelled China at the 3rd place, Bharat for 2 decades failed to catch up with China, despite all the hype and spending billions of Indian rupees.

As of 2021, it is too late for the 4th place, and India can only compete for the 6th place.

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▲ 1. Main competitors for the 4th place as a manned spacefaring power, as of February 2021.

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▲ 2. India racing for the 6th place.

Remember, it was a time when Akhand Bharat was stretched from Afghanistan and throughout South East Asia today's Philippines and Indonesia.

But what is left of this advance today? Same for Persia.

As said before do not forget the fable of the Tortoise and the Hare!

 

[Indx-techs]

As of 2021, it is too late for the 4th place, and India can only compete for the 6th place.

LOL really? What progress other countries have made so far in regards of launch vehicles, space suits, training food, docking or data etc.? Europeans and Japanese haven't even announced plans and too late to start tests for human rating.

North Korea and Iran are limited to just pamplets and photos and will take at least two decades before becoming mature satellite launchers, human missions are far fetched.

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

LOL really? What progress other countries have made so far in regards of launch vehicles, space suits, training food, docking or data etc.? Europeans and Japanese haven't even announced plans and too late to start tests for human rating.

North Korea and Iran are limited to just pamplets and photos and will take at least two decades before becoming mature satellite launchers, human missions are far fetched.

you can't deny what he says. DPRK has definite lead on us.

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

LOL really? What progress other countries have made so far in regards of launch vehicles, space suits, training food, docking or data etc.?

North Korea and Iran are limited to just pamplets and photos and will take at least two decades before becoming mature satellite launchers, human missions are far fetched.

Pamphlets and photos? Do you realize that North Korea don't even preannounces its rocket launches in advance, unlike China and India?

Back in 2017, the Hwasong-12, Hwasong-14 and Hwasong-15 ICBMs were all launched to the great surprise of the public that wasn't even aware of their existences.

As for Iran, it was initially planned for 2016! Only derailed due to the election of President Rouhani and his will to appease the West after signing the JCPOA accord.

Please keep in mind that for team Iran-North Korea, this is of the most vital military interest, as it allows to test a 2 tons reentry vehicle to be recovered, under the guise of a dual use military-civilian technology. If successful, the DPRK and Iran would have mastered Post Boost Vehicle technologies as well.

And these were the technologies the U.S. critics of China wanted to prevent the P.R.C. to develop with the dual-use Shenzhou manned space program back in the 1990s!

Team Iran-North Korea has the ICBM, both liquid (Hwasong-15) and solid (Pukguksong-5) but still hasn't demonstrate to possess Reentry Vehicle and Post Boost Vehicle technologies.

Iran will launch this month the first version of Kavoshgar-9 biocapsule, a recoverable capsule of 75% the size of the manned spacecraft! Then the full size Kavoshgar-10 will follow, possibly by June.

Five more will be launched before a human can replace the dummy astronaut.


Kavoshgar-9 should be 1.25 meter in diameter, or 3/4 scale model.

Kavoshgar-10 should be full size, with 2 meters in diameter.

This means with 5 successful unmanned tests, from Kavoshgar-10 to Kavoshgar-14 the manned mission will start with Kavoshgar-15 at the earliest!

Iran Manned Space Race For The 4th Place

Mission	Launch date	Altitude	Crew	Spacecraft	Launcher
Iran 1	First half of 2021	Suborbital 190 km	Dummy	Kavoshgar-9	Shahab-1
Iran 2	Mid-2021	Suborbital 190 km	Dummy	Kavoshgar-10	Safir-1D
Iran 3	First half of 2022	Suborbital 190 km	Dummy	Kavoshgar-11	Safir-1D
Iran 4	Mid-2022	Suborbital 190 km	Dummy	Kavoshgar-12	Safir-1D
Iran 5	First half of 2023	Suborbital 190 km	Dummy	Kavoshgar-13	Safir-1D
Iran 6	Mid-2023	Suborbital 190 km	Dummy	Kavoshgar-14	Safir-1D
Iran 7	11 February 2024 Anniversary of the Islamic Revolution Victory (Yekshanbeh, 22 Bahman 1402)	Suborbital 190 km	Iran's first astronaut	Kavoshgar-15	Safir-1D

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▲ 1.The Kavoshgar 1 to 11 biocapsules family, as of February 2021.

Europeans and Japanese haven't even announced plans and too late to start tests for human rating.

Because I am the only one in PDF to follow the space news, doesn't mean that the Japanese haven't announced their plan.

Japan In The Manned Space Race

PD AeroSpace

Japanese startup PD AeroSpace aims for commercial space travel in 2023

2018/09/04/

The startup PD AeroSpace Ltd. is developing a reusable spacecraft shaped like an airplane to carry paying customers into space by 2023.

The Nagoya-based company plans to offer space flights up to an altitude of 110 kilometers using the craft, which is capable of carrying six passengers and two pilots, at a price of ¥17 million ($153,000) per person.

Currently, 11 workers at a plant in Hekinan, Aichi Prefecture, are working to fly an unmanned test vehicle up to an altitude of 100 km.

“We would like to open a new space era (with the spacecraft),” said Shuji Ogawa, the 48-year-old president of PD AeroSpace.

Last summer, the company successfully carried out a combustion experiment with the spacecraft’s pulse detonation engine, which can switch from air-breathing mode, where propulsion is achieved through pushing out hot exhaust gases, to rocket mode.

According to the company’s plan, the spaceship will change its mode of combustion at an altitude of 15 km to ascend further, and passengers will be able to enjoy a near weightless experience for about five minutes while staring down at Earth.

By launching a reusable spacecraft from airport runways, PD AeroSpace aims to keep costs down compared to using nonreusable rockets.

Ogawa founded the startup in 2007 after being inspired by Scaled Composites LLC’s SpaceShipOne, which in 2004 became the first privately owned piloted vehicle to reach space. It won the $10 million Ansari X Prize, established to encourage entrepreneurship in space travel.

The space tourism industry at one point lost steam due to a series of accidents and a reluctance to invest in the field, but it appears to have regained momentum, with U.S. companies taking the lead.

Backed by investments from firms such as ANA Holdings Inc., as well as support from some 40 expert volunteer workers, PD AeroSpace is trying to overcome numerous challenges, including the procurement of funds.

“Space has the power to attract people,” Ogawa said.

Japanese startup PD AeroSpace aims for commercial space travel in 2023

The startup PD AeroSpace Ltd. is developing a reusable spacecraft shaped like an airplane to carry paying customers into space by 2023. The Nagoya-based co

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High-end tourists from China targeted as Japan’s new ‘space port’ prepares for lift-off

Published: 5:38pm, 14 Sep, 2020

• Spacecraft developer PD AeroSpace is developing an airport on an island in Okinawa prefecture for space tourism by 2025

• The company is eyeing wealthy adventure seekers, particularly those from China, for initial flights that are expected to cost around US$141,000

Japan ’s first passenger “space port” is to be built on the tiny Okinawan island of Miyako Shimojishima, with spacecraft developer PD AeroSpace aiming to be aloft by 2025 as it seeks to attract adventurous travellers from across the region – particularly well-heeled thrillseekers from China.

The company, based in the city of Nagoya in central Japan, has reached an agreement with the Okinawa prefectural government to develop the island’s little-used airport for use as the departure point for its state-of-the-art space plane, as well as landing facilities for returning tourists.

“We plan to target people from across Asia and we believe there are a lot of people who would very much like to go into space if only the price of a flight was lower,” said Ryo Ojima from PD Aerospace’s business development department. He confirmed the company was “targeting people from China” for its flights, but said they would take anyone who wants to experience space.

Ojima said initial flights would last for about 90 minutes and reach an altitude of 100km, which the World Air Sports Federation has set as the boundary between the atmosphere and space. For five minutes, passengers will be able to experience the weightless conditions of astronauts, while the journey will provide stunning views of the Earth.

“We are aiming to reach 100km because that is what is known as the Karman line, or the ‘gateway to the universe’,” he said.

The cost of a flight is expected to be around Ұ15 million (US$141,000), Ojima told This Week in Asia, or around 70 per cent of the cost proposed by similar space tourism ventures.

“We selected Miyako Shimojishima for four primary reasons,” he said. “It has a 3,000-metre runway, it has a training airspace that is aligned north-south, it faces the ocean and the local authorities have been cooperative.”

Tourism-dependent Okinawa has been hit by the Covid-19 pandemic, with people working in the local travel industry describing the outlook as “grim”. As such, experts say, the possibility of space tourism in the next five years could provide a much-needed boost for the prefecture.

“Okinawa has felt the loss of the China market due to the coronavirus, so it makes complete sense that they would go after wealthy travellers from the big cities – Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong – as their passengers,” said Ashley Harvey, general manager of destination management firm Aviareps Japan.

“All those cities have huge populations, large numbers of people with money to spend and easy access to Okinawa. These are people who have already travelled overseas and have seen many of the major attractions around the world, so they are going to be looking for something completely different, something that none of their friends have tried before.

“An experience like this would be something special and something that enough people would want to try to make it a viable business.”

In its first year of operations, PD AeroSpace expects to take around 100 people into orbit, but it plans to operate 200 flights a year – carrying 1,000 passengers – by 2030. It has big ambitions beyond these initial flights and ultimately intends to be involved in the construction of an orbiting space hotel.

The company has tied up with All Nippon Airways (ANA) and domestic travel giant HIS, with a spokeswoman for HIS pointing out that a number of legal revisions need to be passed before space travel can become a reality.

“We believe there will be strong demand, initially from Japan but very quickly after that from across the entire region [once that hurdle has been overcome],” she said.

Miyako Shimojishima, which is nearly 300km from Okinawa’s main island, covers an area of just 10 sq km and is connected to neighbouring islands by bridges.

Its airport was built in 1979 to serve as Japan’s sole pilot training facility for jet aircraft, with ANA and Japan Airlines
using the facility until it became significantly cheaper to train pilots on simulators. The airfield is presently used for tourist flights.


“It’s a very appealing and dream-inspiring proposal,” Okinawa prefecture vice governor Kiichiro Jahana said of PD AeroSpace’s plan. “The space industry is a field with high future prospects and one that continues to grow around the world … This will have a positive ripple effect across the entire prefecture.”

Chinese tourists eyed as Japan’s ‘space port’ prepares for lift-off

PD AeroSpace is developing an airport on an island in Okinawa prefecture for space tourism by 2025, and is eyeing wealth adventure seekers – particularly those from China.

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▲ 2. Pegasus vs New Sheppard & SpaceShip Two.

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▲ 3. Switchable Dual Combustion Mode engine.

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▲ 4. From Jet Mode To Rocket Mode.

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▲ 5. PDAS-X06 & PDAS-X07 Demonstrators.

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▲ 6. Pegasus Suborbital Spaceplane.

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▲ 7. Suborbital space flight profile.

LOL really? What progress other countries have made so far in regards of launch vehicles, space suits, training food, docking or data etc.?

Taiwan was about to launch its first space rocket the HAPITH-V last year just before the COVID-19 crisis.

The secret is a professional engineer with 30 years of career working in the U.S. NASA.

China could leap frog in 1960s because its chief designer, Dr Qian Xuesen spent time in the U.S. from 1936 to 1955, working at the Caltech and JPL, while retrieving for the U.S. military captured ballistic missile tech from defeated Germany during WWII.

Same for Thailand. No need to spent two decades at home, a first space launch can be achieved after only two years if the skill of the lead engineer is of world class.


And as correctly predicted back in 2019, Thailand joining the space race!

We are moving forward into a new era by planning to develop space technologies for future space travel. Generally, a majority might view that building a spaceship or spacecraft is a futuristic idea and sometimes it feels surreal.
However, building a spaceship with a complexity of technologies is one of the challenging tasks that a company wants to achieve, it might take 1-2 years to complete, mu Space is the first and only company who steps into this path and strives to make things happen. If we don’t start it now, then when?

Objective

• Orbital Flight
• Earth orbit missions
• ISS resupply
• Cis-lunar missions

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▲ 8. Space Tourism by 2025.

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▲ 9. Mu Space conceptual spacesuit. 2019.

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▲ 10. Spaceship's schematics.

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▲ 11. Spaceship design and prototype.

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▲ 12. Spaceship automated robotic factory.

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▲ 13. Spaceship Vs New Sheppard et al. size comparison.

In the centuries old tradition with the invention of the most amazing flying rockets, check this Siamese SPACESHIP,that will carry astronauts into space by 2025!

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▲ 14. CGI rendering of Spaceship.

And not to be confused with the U.S. STARSHIP!

https://archive.vn/6fvc5/fda1bf93c2c2388d7ca09d594b21cbe364df414d.jpg ; https://archive.vn/6fvc5/b8656a3602761eddc53d28a36ca0e13060506282/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20210305123706/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvorWQeU8AcQNMu?format=jpg&name=900x900
▲ 15. Starship SN10 exploding after fatal crash landing!



The current lineup of all the competitors for the 4th space race:

https://archive.vn/15xcb/210f2355242ffc4ce97fb8870111c9b19716aa19.jpg ; https://archive.vn/15xcb/3bd39178dbd3f41fe8fe814a3fcf1cc9ae248648/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20210302104318/https://i.imgur.com/JxkJviu.jpg
▲ 16. Competitors of the 4th Space Race, as of March 2021.

 

[Indx-techs]

you can't deny what he says. DPRK has definite lead on us.

What particular point he has made I can't deny or what kind of lead DPRK has over P5 countries or India or Japan?

Pamphlets and photos? Do you realize that North Korea don't even preannounces its rocket launches in advance, unlike China and India?

Doesn't even issues NOTAMs and NAVAREAS? My point remains that North Korean and Iranian capabilities are midget as size of their countries and glorification is limited to propaganda posters.

Back in 2017, the Hwasong-12, Hwasong-14 and Hwasong-15 ICBMs were all launched to the great surprise of the public that wasn't even aware of their existences.

Iran and North Korea having long range ballistic missiles was never a surprise for global strategists ever since it's confirmed that they had space launch vehicles.
Ballistic missiles are essentially highly mobile and stockable space rockets with flatter trajectories. Once again, all major space faring countries have already designed, built, tested, inducted, retired, cancelled or just have capabilities to make far heavier ICBMs. Japan also fall in same category.
So far if we have to account missile technologies that are integrated to make different kind of missiles (2017 list, further has moved over for China, India & Israel):

http://mtcr.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/MTCR-Handbook-2017-INDEXED-FINAL-Digital.pdf

USA: 94/94
UK: 94/94
Russia: 94/94
France: 93/94
Japan: 93/94
China: 92/94
India: 81/94
Israel: 74/94
Pakistan: 39/94
South Africa: 34/94
North Korea: 25/94
Iran: 21/94
Turkey: 4/94

Please keep in mind that for team Iran-North Korea, this is of the most vital military interest, as it allows to test a 2 tons reentry vehicle to be recovered, under the guise of a dual use military-civilian technology. If successful, the DPRK and Iran would have mastered Post Boost Vehicle technologies as well.

Five more will be launched before a human can replace the dummy astronaut.

LOL, what a waste of time this argument was! You now clearly have implied that Iran and North Korea aren't actually racing for any kind of real manned space program with orbital missions or future station settlements but just undertaking a few minutes or hours long suborbital or very low orbital flights for the label of "4th in space"? (And don't compare it with US & USSR in 60s because space technology itself was very primitive in those days). European Union, Japan & India would have done it long ago if it was meaningful in anyway. Since it doesn't take much of technological effort or budget.

Even though for it North Korean and Iranian launchers have too high failure rates for manned ratings (or safety standards aren't a thing in this "MeToo" syndrome of DPRK & Iran?)

A multi-day multi-crew LEO manned spaceflight mission would need a capsule with good space for astronauts, their food & other equipment, strong heat shields & radiation protection & communication systems and ECLSS and life support systems to support human life and food for long endurance in extreme conditions.

That is why China had to have Long March 2F, Indian program delayed because of delay of GSLV Mk III. Continuous communication would further need a data relay satellite constellation (like American TDRS, Russian Luch, Chinese Tianlian and upcoming Indian DRSS). It would take it further development of heavy and super heavy lift launch vehicles available with US, Russia and China and in development with India to establish space stations and sending humans to Moon or Mars.

India ranks lowest in terms of capabilities among all six major space powers but will most certainly match them one SCE-200 engine is ready for use. Heavy & super-heavy lift launchers will come too fast before 2030. India's "4th place challenge" is basically here about actually being 4th in manned space exploration and not just touching orbit at once.
Even at existing stage, India's older enginers can make a sufficient cluster to make a super-hevay launcher capable of throwing at least a single piece space station into orbit if not land humans on moon.

Have tech to configure launch vehicle that can carry 50-tonne payload: Isro chairman - Times of India

Science News: Like Elon Musk’s Space X, Indian Space Research Organisation (Isro) has the capability and technology to “configure a launch vehicle that has the lift

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Higher capabilities lie with other 5 major space powers but cost-effectiveness is an essential part of mission.

Ironically any of North Korea and Iran don't possess anything equivalent of India's lightest operational rocket PSLV-G.

The same case of inexperience lies with that Japanese start up you are talking about. They have not delivered anything yet. A manned space plane would need extensive testing. Hundreds of such companies with dreams emerge and collapse across world.
Besides European Space Agency and JAXA, India doesn't have to be worried about anyone in race to be no. 4.

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

All indications are a launch will be happening soon- 2/3 Months max (high explosive solid boosters can't be 'stored' for years- too dangerous. So the launch will happen as soon as integration of vehicle is done. So I think Jan/ Feb will see a flight.

I think Jan/ Feb will see the first launch. It's unimaginable to keep those solid boosters stored for longer. In case of any accidents, those things will go up like a mini atomic bomb. From the day it enters the facility, everybody is rushing to get it off with a launch

YES!!! CONFIRMATION THAT THE CREW MODULE TEST FLIGHT IS IN DECEMBER NOT JAN FEB (I as I had predicted)!!!

IF this test succeeds, it will save 2020!!!

What a troll fest, that can only be surpassed by the Z!




More official delusion no later than this month!

ISRO Gaganyaan Mission Astronauts Training Nears Completion, First Unmanned Mission Likely in December 2021

March 10, 2021

ISRO Gaganyaan mission astronauts have almost completed their training in Russia, according to a report filed by Union Minister Dr. Jitendra Singh

ISRO Gaganyaan mission astronauts, who have been undergoing training in Russia, have almost completed training activities, said Dr. Jitendra Singh, Union Minister of Atomic Energy and Space, Government of India in a written reply to the Lok Sabha. The first unmanned mission of the Gaganyaan programme is scheduled to be held in December 2021, and the second unmanned flight in 2022-23, which will then be followed by the human spaceflight demonstration.

As of now, major modules such as survival training (snow, water and steppe), parabolic flights, theoretical classes on orbital mechanics, astro-navigation and some Soyuz systems have been completed, said the minister in a statement. Four Indian astronauts are currently undergoing training in Russia for the mission.

http://web.archive.org/web/20210326055009/https://www.dqindia.com/isro-gaganyaan-mission-astronauts-training-nears-completion-first-unmanned-mission-likely-december-2021/
https://archive.ph/55U5Q#selection-241.1-158.2
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As correctly warned back on 23rd February 2021, India is now facing the reality of post-911 era started in 2020, and called the All-Pandemic Era:

Feb 23, 2021 If ISRO can't keep its target goal of 2022 for a manned spaceflight due to the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, then it will only be able to launch fireworks for the next 2 decades! Because during the past year, COVID-19 was only a mild massage compared to the incoming tsunami of B117 et al strains forecasted for March 2021! 5 FEb 2021 TWO DIFFERENT COVID19 PANDEMICS—Many think with cases dropping that pandemic is nearly over. But truth is, there are now 2 different #SARSCoV2 pandemics diverging—old strain is waning, while the more contagious #B117 strain is dominating. We will be soon slammed very hard. https://archive.vn/BX3pc/013b4caa2cb245019b2bed9f9c3cdc09297549a1.jpg ; https://archive.vn/BX3pc/30afac48c5a0b507896e35a44a7c73c2b0dab6a0/scr.png ; https://web.archive.org/web/20210220220812/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtcNJGXXcAA0rXv?format=jpg&name=large ▲ 1. Here is what is going to happen... currently R is ~0.9 in many places, but with the more infectious #B117, the R will jump 50% approximately. And it is inevitable (all CDC and Danish models say this) that B117 will take over as the reigning dominant variant soon... · Feb 5, 2021 https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1357566949404905472 ​ https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/which-nation-will-be-the-4th-to-join-the-elite-club-of-spacefaring-nations.598244/post-12976644

The only thing skyrocketing right now in India: India's COVID situation worst in the world by rate of new infections, in this Death Race along Brazil, and no better than the U.S. and the E.U.!

https://archive.ph/dZ0jp/ed857c59aacdc081f0a8d6a77b6cf291856fc963.png ; https://archive.ph/dZ0jp/335e9ae5c01cbe0230f092b4ed6b8dc43a0dd86a/scr.png ;
http://web.archive.org/web/20210326054735/https://i.imgur.com/CxA9JGB.png ; https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=eur&areas=usa&areas=bra&areas=rus&areas=ind&areas=irn&cumulative=0&logScale=0&per100K=0&startDate=2020-01-01&values=deaths
▲ 2. New COVID cases as reported 25th March 2021.


Just FYI for now—new variant found in India. Unclear transmission or immune escape yet.

"double mutation (E484Q & L452R) in key areas of virus's spike protein may increase these risks and allow the virus to escape the immune system".

https://archive.is/Gj6SR/332aac2bd9d4e167c0a0e139083e1881a54cc125/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20210326062849/https://archive.is/Gj6SR/332aac2bd9d4e167c0a0e139083e1881a54cc125/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20210326054526/https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1374775467279024137 ; https://archive.is/Gj6SR
▲ 3. BREAKING—due to surging COVID19 cases, India has frozen all major exports of AstraZeneca COVIDVaccine made by Serum Institute of India, world’s biggest vaccine-maker, to meet domestic demand as infections rise. This will also delay supplies to COVAX. 24 Mar 2021

Again, vaccines are never meant to be more than a substitute for a cure, only a placebo when one doesn't use the real cure: particle accelerators.


How could Iran not launch its astronaut before India?

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

What a troll fest, that can only be surpassed by the Z!




More official delusion no later than this month!

ISRO Gaganyaan Mission Astronauts Training Nears Completion, First Unmanned Mission Likely in December 2021​

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March 10, 2021​

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ISRO Gaganyaan mission astronauts have almost completed their training in Russia, according to a report filed by Union Minister Dr. Jitendra Singh​

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ISRO Gaganyaan mission astronauts, who have been undergoing training in Russia, have almost completed training activities, said Dr. Jitendra Singh, Union Minister of Atomic Energy and Space, Government of India in a written reply to the Lok Sabha. The first unmanned mission of the Gaganyaan programme is scheduled to be held in December 2021, and the second unmanned flight in 2022-23, which will then be followed by the human spaceflight demonstration.​

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As of now, major modules such as survival training (snow, water and steppe), parabolic flights, theoretical classes on orbital mechanics, astro-navigation and some Soyuz systems have been completed, said the minister in a statement. Four Indian astronauts are currently undergoing training in Russia for the mission.​

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http://web.archive.org/web/20210326055009/https://www.dqindia.com/isro-gaganyaan-mission-astronauts-training-nears-completion-first-unmanned-mission-likely-december-2021/[/SIZE][/I][/INDENT]
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[INDENT]https://archive.ph/55U5Q#selection-241.1-158.2​

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As correctly warned back on 23rd February 2021, India is now facing the reality of post-911 era started in 2020, and called the All-Pandemic Era:

Feb 23, 2021 If ISRO can't keep its target goal of 2022 for a manned spaceflight due to the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, then it will only be able to launch fireworks for the next 2 decades! Because during the past year, COVID-19 was only a mild massage compared to the incoming tsunami of B117 et al strains forecasted for March 2021! 5 FEb 2021 TWO DIFFERENT COVID19 PANDEMICS—Many think with cases dropping that pandemic is nearly over. But truth is, there are now 2 different #SARSCoV2 pandemics diverging—old strain is waning, while the more contagious #B117 strain is dominating. We will be soon slammed very hard. https://archive.vn/BX3pc/013b4caa2cb245019b2bed9f9c3cdc09297549a1.jpg ; https://archive.vn/BX3pc/30afac48c5a0b507896e35a44a7c73c2b0dab6a0/scr.png ; https://web.archive.org/web/20210220220812/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtcNJGXXcAA0rXv?format=jpg&name=large ▲ 1. Here is what is going to happen... currently R is ~0.9 in many places, but with the more infectious #B117, the R will jump 50% approximately. And it is inevitable (all CDC and Danish models say this) that B117 will take over as the reigning dominant variant soon... · Feb 5, 2021 https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1357566949404905472​ https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/which-nation-will-be-the-4th-to-join-the-elite-club-of-spacefaring-nations.598244/post-12976644

The only thing skyrocketing right now in India: India's COVID situation worst in the world by rate of new infections, in this Death Race along Brazil, and no better than the U.S. and the E.U.!

https://archive.ph/dZ0jp/ed857c59aacdc081f0a8d6a77b6cf291856fc963.png ; https://archive.ph/dZ0jp/335e9ae5c01cbe0230f092b4ed6b8dc43a0dd86a/scr.png ;
http://web.archive.org/web/20210326054735/https://i.imgur.com/CxA9JGB.png ; https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=eur&areas=usa&areas=bra&areas=rus&areas=ind&areas=irn&cumulative=0&logScale=0&per100K=0&startDate=2020-01-01&values=deaths
▲ 2. New COVID cases as reported 25th March 2021.


Just FYI for now—new variant found in India. Unclear transmission or immune escape yet.

"double mutation (E484Q & L452R) in key areas of virus's spike protein may increase these risks and allow the virus to escape the immune system".

https://archive.is/Gj6SR/332aac2bd9d4e167c0a0e139083e1881a54cc125/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20210326062849/https://archive.is/Gj6SR/332aac2bd9d4e167c0a0e139083e1881a54cc125/scr.png ; http://web.archive.org/web/20210326054526/https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1374775467279024137 ; https://archive.is/Gj6SR
▲ 3. BREAKING—due to surging COVID19 cases, India has frozen all major exports of AstraZeneca COVIDVaccine made by Serum Institute of India, world’s biggest vaccine-maker, to meet domestic demand as infections rise. This will also delay supplies to COVAX. 24 Mar 2021

Again, vaccines are never meant to be more than a substitute for a cure, only a placebo when one doesn't use the real cure: particle accelerators.


How could Iran not launch its astronaut before India?

dude. No one has the time to read all the junk you put there. Just state in a straight sentence what you want to say for a change.