Indian high cast students refuse to eat food cooked by low cast Hindus

[Chow chow]

The OP of this thread thinks that he can bash us on the thing which is now Practiced secretly in uneducated society, whereas he forgets that Cast system along with extremism is another name of 21st century Pakistan..

 

[Roybot]

Whats funny is that how do these kids find out if the cook is a Dalit or not. I smell some bs here. Are elections in UP close by?

 

[praveen]

madame jana is a smart alec and a great indian citizen

 

[Chanakyaa]

not only in india, but i think this is a big problem in asia and africa, something should be done about this

The OP Should NOTE This.

 

[alphamale]

The OP of this thread thinks that he can bash us on the thing which is now Practiced secretly in uneducated society, whereas he forgets that Cast system along with extremism is another name of 21st century Pakistan..

calm down dude. caste system is bitter reality of our society. why shy away from this?????????

 

[Chow chow]

dude i have seen caste sytem in urban india atleast when it comes to marriages , not always though .

Marriage is different thing, You dont tend to marry outside your own community (generally) , This is not a cast system.

A Haryanvi wont prefer marrying a south Indian and Vice Versa..

 

[Riaz Mohammed]

Look, social division based on caste is like an angry blotch in the 'shining India' story. No one denies this. Very few states in India like goa or kerala ... have evolved as far as society is concerned.


I believe the fault lies with the older generations up north who teach their children to look through the "caste lens". As a boy, i grew up with several high caste "brahmin" boys and low caste kids. The thing is, in our village...the people belonging to different castes did not have a problem living side by side and ever since childhood, we grew up together....high caste, low caste, Hindu, Muslim and christian.



This is something you will only find in kerala as of now. And this is something the whole of India needs to adopt.

 

[alphamale]

Whats funny is that how do these kids find out if the cook is a Dalit or not. I smell some bs here. Are elections in UP close by?

if i m not wrong then that news is year old & it was parents not kids who found out that the cook was from schedule class.

 

[Chow chow]

calm down dude. caste system is bitter reality of our society. why shy away from this?????????

I don know , but the city where I live , New Delhi, has neglegible cast system and Iam sure it would be same In major cities aswell, so i cant let people misinform other and paint the entire country with the same brush,

 

[ashokdeiva]

yeh and how will they get rich when they are discriminated in all fields ?

I am sorry for your poor understanding of the Indian Administrative setup. The lower caste people from SC & ST are given the most privileges in all Government Jobs, SC get 7% of all the Job openings and ST get 14% of all the Job openings in both central and state government vacancies including Union Public Service Commission except officers in the Army, Navy and Air Force.
The problem is that this is not reaching the poor SC & ST but the rich SC & ST who belong to the creamy layer of the society are exploiting these opportunistic and the government has not taken steps to segregate the creamy layer and list them in the open quota.
If this is done in 50 years time all the SC & ST will be in the creamy layer and soon the Caste system will be out of scope, but the corrupt politicians in INDIA don't want the poorer section of the SC & ST to come up as they are the main source of vote bank as they are not educated they increase in population not aware of family planning and hence more poor who can be subdued as vote bank.
But in recent times the youth of the nation have already lost interest in the caste system and are living in hostels and mansions as good friends rather than caste wise divided idiots

 

[Riaz Mohammed]

The really funny part is....every one remembered their caste and "reservation" when the time for college admission came....

 

[Spring Onion]

Where is Cast system in Cities??? Its only there in villages and among poor People and Iam sure with The rate Poverty level is declining In India and literacy level is increasing, Cast system will become a thing of Past (In my opinion it has already become History in major part of the country)


PS:- I belong to OBC..

hope if it was true but the independent researchers found it NOT true.

here is a research carried out in Indian cities if there is cast based discrimination or not.


Research Details Caste Discrimination in Indian Private Sector
February 28, 2011

Discrimination on the basis of caste endures in the formal labor market of contemporary India, according to Paul Attewell of the City University of New York Graduate Center and Katherine S. Newman of the Johns Hopkins University Department of Sociology.

Speaking at the Institute this month, Attewell and Newman outlined three of four discrimination studies collaboratively undertaken by Princeton University and the Indian Institute of Dalit Studies: a field experiment based in employer-employee correspondence, a study focusing on employer attitudes toward caste, and a prospective cohort study of lower-caste university graduates in elite institutions.

The origin of the overarching project, Attewell said, lies in the recent debate in Indian English-language press over extending the reservation system currently operating in India into the country’s private sector. The Indian reservation system allots a percentage of public sector jobs and places in higher educational institutions to minority applicants, including those of religious minorities and Dalits, a group traditionally regarded to be of low caste. Representatives of the private sector expressed overwhelming opposition to the possibility of extending reservation, citing an ostensible lack of evidence of discrimination against Dalits in the modern private sector, Attewell said.

In order to correct the “dearth of research [speaking] to these issues,” the project employed a series of empirical techniques developed by social scientists in the US to investigate “enduring discrimination against African Americans,” Attewell said. The studies aimed to determine whether modern inequalities are “based on caste or community leftovers from the past,” whether these inequalities are “reflections of low education or working in an economically ‘backward’ sector,” and whether discrimination continues to take place “even in the most modern, dynamic sectors of the Indian economy.”

The field experiment focused on the correspondence between job applicants and prospective employers in the modern private sector, including both Indian and multinational corporations. Only first-stage discrimination was taken into account: whether or not applicants received an interview invitation.

Researchers submitted multiple sets of fabricated resumes by mail in response to job advertisements aimed at recent university graduates. All fictitious candidates shared strong credentials and differed only in names, which were “recognizably affiliated by caste or religion,” Attewell said. Three groups of candidates were set up: those with names associated with a high caste, those with typically Dalit names, and those with typically Muslim names.

Researchers found a clear statistical pattern, according to Attewell. Applicants with names associated with a low-caste background faced odds of a positive outcome only 0.67 as large as those for an application with a typically high-caste name. Muslim applicants were at an even greater disadvantage, with odds of a positive outcome only 0.33 as large as those for a high-caste name applicant. These findings clearly imply that discrimination against applicants based on name association occurs even in the very first stage of the job search. “Social exclusion is not a residue of the past; it is alive and well even in modern, high-tech India,” Attewell said.

Newman outlined the second, employer perspective study, which challenged the public assumption that overt caste discrimination is an anachronism in the Indian modern sector. Researchers interviewed a series of Indian employers about their companies’ recruitment procedures, specifically whether the organization followed a regional recruitment pattern and whether caste was significant in making hiring decisions.

The results of the study spoke to a prevailing “sense that [one] can characterize individuals by virtue of [the] group characteristics produced in [their native] regional settings,” Newman said. Indian employers were found to operate on a “powerful set of regional stereotypes,” with the belief that corporate behavior can be predicted based on a prospective employee’s family background, regardless of the individual’s higher education. The majority of interviewed employers rejected the legitimacy of the reservation policy overall, Newman said, regarding it as an unnecessary con encouraging caste-ism.

While the study is not statistically representative, it is nevertheless illustrative of the dominant patterns of thought in the recruiting process, according to Newman. The tradition of insider hiring in Indian companies, paired with an emphasis on credentials, worldliness, sophistication, and international exposure, intensifies the implications of choosing applicants based on their personal background and the likelihood of employers bypassing Dalit applicants.

Newman went on to describe the third study, looking at the role of caste in post-university employment. “A group of urban, educationally [similar] university students from different caste backgrounds [were compared] in terms of job expectations, search methods, and the role of their personal social networks in their actual placements.” Some key findings of the study include significantly lower expectations for monthly salary and job opportunity on the part of lower-caste students. “The majority of Dalits didn’t even apply to the private sector because they expected a wall of discrimination,” Newman said. Dalit students also tended to have a much smaller network of family and friends to whom they could turn for help in finding a job.

These studies emphasized the process of discrimination in the upper reaches of Indian employment, Newman said, and do not touch upon the situation in the rural areas. The significance of these findings nonetheless affects a large portion of the contemporary Indian population. Corporate consciousness with regard to persistent caste-based discrimination must be raised to level the playing field, Newman said.

The talk was part of the Joint Seminar on South Asian Politics.

Research Details Caste Discrimination in Indian Private Sector : The Watson Institute for International Studies

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

To be fair, India needs to solve its problems of the caste system as well as China needs to fix many of its internal problems.

We both are not perfect, so pointing finger at each other won't make us looks better.

But we do not need to be criticized by the foreign nations, since these issues can only be solved by ourselves.

 

[praveen]

The metric is how far did we solve a millenia old problem in 60 years and how much more we will solve it

 

[Spring Onion]

Bonded labour is abolished in india so is feudalism.Bonded labour exists in countries where feudals exist

in papers even cast system is abolished but in reality it prevails so as Bonded labour.

according to the report by National Human Rights Commission (inida) in January 2011, the bonded labour still prevails in India and the organisation had registered over 2,000 related cases so far.