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Read one interesting article about Nitish Kumar and his politics..

http://www.bihartimes.in/Newsbihar/2013/March/newsbihar18March2.html

Betraying or getting trapped: Is Nitish caught in a fix?


Soroor Ahmed





By stating that Ya to abhi do, ya chaudah ke baad zaroor do ge (Either give special category status now or after 2014 election) Bihar chief minister Nitish Kumar clearly hinted what is his post-poll priority.

The message between the lines was that if the 2014 Lok Sabha election ends in dead heat between Congress and BJP his Janata Dal (United) may bargain the demand of special category status to lend support. If the Congress gives the assurance he may cross over from NDA to UPA.



The truth is that with thousands of supporters in front it is easy to feel elated and throw whatever ‘challenge’ one can. But suppose the Congress does not give any such assurance or situation does not arise what will Nitish then do? Herein lies the crux of the matter.

Then to whom he is addressing chaudah ke baad zaroor do ge. If NDA comes to power or gets a clear-cut edge over UPA in that case Nitish will be bound to remain in the same camp. Nobody will then listen to the demand of special category status.

There are two opinions about this whole action of Nitish Kumar. The first is that he is becoming over-ambitious and in the process even betraying the BJP which helped him reach this height. Or he is getting trapped by the Congress, who is hell bent upon breaking the NDA, which has apart from BJP just three parties, the Janata Dal (United), Shiv Sena and Akali Dal.

There should be no doubt that in alliance with the BJP he is still in a comfortable position and apparently in no need to ditch it. He owes much of his success in his political life to his alliance with the saffron party. From 1995 to 2013 the journey was not so simple. After the 1995 Assembly election his outfit, Samata Party, ended up with just seven seats in the House of 324 though he contested the poll in league with CPI ML.

It was when he joined hands with the BJP in early 1996 that his upward journey began. Now he is in position of abandoning the same party which helped him reach this stage. Only a day before the rally the party spokesman Shivanand Tiwary went on to state that the Janata Dal (United) can go it alone.

Till a few years back Janata Dal (United) was hardly a party with any resources to even contest election. It was the BJP which, to get Lalu-Rabri government removed projected him and provided all human as well as material support. The Hindutva party made big sacrifice and always left more seats for Janata Dal (United) to contest even when the latter had no workers to man the booths. The BJP workers did everything to let Janata Dal (United) grow. All this was because Nitish was a suitable backward caste alternative to Lalu Yadav.

Nitish consolidated his position on his own only after becoming the chief minister in November 2005. But the first thing, which he did after firming up his own position is that he started asserting himself. Of late he has been repeatedly talking about the post-poll scenario and in the Ramlila Rally he said so for the first time at a public meeting in New Delhi.

It is less out of love for Narendra Modi and more after feeling cheated that a strong section of the BJP in Bihar is openly siding with the Gujarat chief minister. It was only when Nitish openly humiliated the BJP bigwigs by cancelling the dinner during the national executive meeting in Patna on June 12, 2010 and returned the flood relief fund to Gujarat that some of the BJP ministers for the first time opened their mouths against their own CM.

Leaders like Dr C P Thakur, who has no RSS background––he in fact crossed over from the Congress to the BJP––have now become great champion of the Gujarat chief minister.

It appears now that Janata Dal (United) may contest poll in alliance with the BJP and change side only when any such situation arises after the Lok Sabha election. But if the Congress really offers special status and Nitish goes over to the UPA camp in that case how will Janata Dal (United) fight the Assembly election of Oct 2015.

Congress in Bihar is in no position to compensate for the huge loss in the form of BJP. Nitish may try to woo Muslims. But then Muslim forms only16.5 per cent of votes and a sizeable number of them already voted for him in 2010. Can he expect more than that Muslim votes by just stating that look “now I have deserted Narendra Modi.” Anyway it is a risky position.

The problem is that Nitish is playing a confused politics and if anything goes wrong it may backfire. As media is not free in Bihar there is hardly any scope for balanced opinion to come up and warn Janata Dal (United) of dangerous game it is playing.
 
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Dude...before i start putting my comments...I would like to thank you that your posts are worth discussing unlike another double guy....

Yes ...i agree with you...if GOV wants to provide reservation then make it universal through out India for poor...Why do you use religion and cast for it....If you use poor people for reservation then it will be win win for every religions...

Again Sanchar Commitee report should be delinked from reservation issue....I already stated my thought about reservation topic..Although I also agree something should be done for upliftment of poor people across all religion and in particular Muslim people, but i think it is not a good idea to make reservation or any benifits to be provided where religion is a criteria....This is a suicidal mode of policy that Congi team is doing since last 65 years and it should be stopped...

I just want to clarify that not all muslims get reservation but only certain section of muslims get so and its the same with all minorities. I am posting a link supporting my claim.

Source: It

I reiterate that I am against reservation based on religion/castes and my ideal situation of reservation would be to give it to the needy and not to some supposed poorer section of citizens. But if you look at practicality, I think its hard to implement such a system with the level of corruption we have. I have seen many times where people who are financially well off do forgery to get grants or benefits from government and even the govt employees and bureaucrats help them in their cause... I hope we would be able to get a strict law which is effectively implemented in curbing this kind of mal-practices...:)
 
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DMK with 18 MPs in the LS has WITHDRAWN support from the Center.

Still there is a PROBABILITY of there returning back conditioned on a Resolution pass by the Parliament against Human Rights violation in Sri Lanka.

Just get the feeling that 2014 can be SCHEDULED earlier to the late 2013 instead.
 
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Exactly....who else can we blame than ourselvesonly....This is the same traditional Hindus who voted for your beloved Congi party in last 65 years....and what we have achived...a poor nation with 1.2 billion people....What has congi contributed in 65 year??....SCAMS with competative amount each month....These are the same BS Hindoos who voted Congi to Power so that India even can not compete with a nation like Maldavies to protect its intrests....It is the same idiotic Hindoos...who can not find a person with Indian origin to lead the Congi Party rather depend on an imported Italian lady to lead their party....I mean sometimes i think....hating Modi is one thing....How can a person who is educated one can even ever think to like Congi Party with its senses...

Yeah I know...the hundreds of millions of Hindus are stupid and idiotic. Few wise men like you know what is better for them and it is sad that they don't listen to you despite the din and continuous loud blaring that you do. That is the real problem- a wise man like you knows sooooo much more about the betterment of the country than India's multitudes. And guess what, you even have proof-you post on PDF.
 
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Yeah I know...the hundreds of millions of Hindus are stupid and idiotic. .

yes they are.....stupid and idiot...illiterate and divided on caste lines.....else why would they vote for congress which only concerns about muslims and chrsitians.....

For you also religion comes first. Thats why you want dharmic india against secular India. You will have more respect if india is more dharmic?

because that is our true heritage and civilization...not islam......

and for hindus, country is itself a god.....that is why we have bharat mata as god and worship her....while most muslims dont even sing a patrotic song because that is against islam.......we can happily bow our head before bharat mata and worship her.....can you do that.....
 
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@arp2041 Remember, Advani said that election may held before 2014. But the thing is, is it good for Modi or not.

Considering GOI's present position, its good but at the same time Modi needs more time and people for well planned and targeted campaign.
 
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Sikhs and buddhists already have reservation....

what the mazhabi sikhs are demanding is "reservation within reservation"

Taking a clue from Gujjars who disrupted rail traffic in Rajasthan for getting their ‘right’ of reservation, activists belonging to ‘Valmiki Mazhbi Sikh Reservation Bachao Morcha’, today disrupted rail traffic at Moga in Punjab to press upon their demand for reservation within reservation.

read before posting something......

If backward Hindus can get reservation, why shouldn't economically deprived muslims get reservation?? It is their right and they are demanding it(not begging)?

you cannot have reservation...because islam - the purest and most perfect religion - does not recognize castes.....simple....

and reservation is not based on economic criteria but on castes....so sorry....no reservation for muslims........i've seen muslims ranting against hinduism saying it promotes the evil of caste system....so why do you want caste based reservation now...?
 
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yes they are.....stupid and idiot...illiterate and divided on caste lines.....else why would they vote for congress which only concerns about muslims and chrsitians.....



because that is our true heritage and civilization...not islam......


for hindus, country is itself a god.....that is why we have bharat mata as god and worship her....while you muslims dont even sing a patrotic song because that is against islam.......

for muslims it will always be religion first...mecca first.....not india......

Wonder of the world...TWO people better than the rest of poor, illiterate and stupid indian masses. (What did you say you're personall accomplishments were again? If you're so smart, I'm sure you and the other guy must have accomplished something spectacular that easily shows how superior you are to our other inferior multitudes).
 
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@The_Showstopper Muslims are poor because of their lack of interest in education and not doing family planning. And all these Congress, SP, govt. has offered you a lot but still this state. May be you selected wrong people.

Don't put blame on others. Do you think only Muslims are poor in this country and they need reservation. Why reservation on basis of religion/caste etc.

I would rather want Muslims to demand on basis of income. Why doesn't Muslims join armed forces ? Why they don't send their kids to school ? And don't say because they are poor, if they are going to have 5 kids, then what can state do. They keep having kids and then they ask state to take care of them.

Enough of this victim card. For heaven's sake stop having 5-6 kids if they can't take care of them.
 
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Wonder of the world...TWO people better than the rest of poor, illiterate and stupid indian masses. (What did you say you're personall accomplishments were again? If you're so smart, I'm sure you and the other guy must have accomplished something spectacular that easily shows how superior you are to our other inferior multitudes).

whatever.......hindus are waking up...and becoming more politically aware of their rights.....so i dont care what a congress 50 paise wala has to say here.....
 
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The Minute they think that Sharia is best they become Anti-nationals as in India nothing is Bigger than the Constitution. So your argument fails here.


Not so fast. i have seen many posts here suggesting that India must put hindus/Hinuism first & not bother with secular/sickular/pseudo secular... Going by your definition, they are all a bunch of anti-nationals......

whatever.......hindus are waking up...and becoming more politically aware of their rights.....so i dont care what a congress 50 paise wala has to say here.....

....and why should anyone then care for what you have to say? Common courtesy doesn't hurt.
 
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Not so fast. i have seen many posts here suggesting that India must put hindus/Hinuism first & not bother with secular/sickular/pseudo secular... Going by your definition, they are all a bunch of anti-nationals......

unlike some other religions, even putting Hinduism first will not hurt national interests as Hinduism is not a religion transcending boundaries (except perhaps Nepal) and is overwhelmingly concentrated inside the political boundaries of India......india is spiritual center of hinduism and hence even the most extreme far-right winger will support only india atleast for religious purpose.......for hindus, india is also their punyabhumi.......this land is intricately connected with our religion and we cannot separate this country from our faith.......so while they can be accused as "ultra-nationalist", they cannot be "anti-nationalist".......they do not have any divided loyalty outside india based on our religion.....


that being said.....i dont think any center-right winger, except the fringe extreme right wing would want india to become hindu rashtra or anything.....just a secular state where there is no discrimination based on religion.......


....and why should anyone then care for what you have to say? Common courtesy doesn't hurt.

courtesy can be given when the other side does not have to resort to snide/sarcastic remarks....its a two way street.....you can see the comment i replied to.
 
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unlike some other religions, even putting Hinduism first will not hurt national interests as Hinduism is not a religion transcending boundaries (except perhaps Nepal) and is overwhelmingly concentrated inside the political boundaries of India......india is spiritual center of hinduism and hence even the most extreme far-right winger will support only india atleast for religious purpose.......for hindus, india is also their punyabhumi.......this land is intricately connected with our religion and we cannot separate this country from our faith.......so while they can be accused as "ultra-nationalist", they cannot be "anti-nationalist".......they do not have any divided loyalty outside india based on our religion.....


that being said.....i dont think any center-right winger, except the fringe extreme right wing would want india to become hindu rashtra or anything.....just a secular state where there is no discrimination based on religion.......




courtesy can be given when the other side does not have to resort to snide/sarcastic remarks....its a two way street.....you can see the comment i replied to.

So saying, you don't represent anyone is snide/ sarcastic. You should be given special treatment and treated above the rest of Indian population for no reason at all- THAT is your problem?
 
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