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A decade after the Indian Army's demand and six years after the government gave the proposal a go-ahead, the army is yet to receive lightweight bullet-proof jackets for their use, reports Times of India.
The Indian army is yet to receive lightweight, bullet-proof jacketsThe Indian army is yet to receive lightweight, bullet-proof jackets
The surprising part is that even though the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) headed by then defence minister AK Antony cleared the purchase of 1,86,138 bullet-proof jackets for the Indian Army in October 2009, the manufacturers submitted their techno-commercial bids only by 2013, as reported by Deccan Herald.
The new jackets, along with helmets were supposed to protect the head, neck and groin of the soldiers besides helping them with greater mobility.
Weighing less than 4 kgs, the jackets would also include a trauma pad with all-around soft armour plate which would of great help in low-threat missions.
The jackets used by the army currently are not only ill-fitting, but also heavy and old. They weigh over 10 kg and are at least 15 years old.
According to CNN-IBN, the soldiers of the Rashtriya Rifles and HQ 16 Corps have themselves written letters complaining about the heavy jackets which make agility cumbersome. However, that too has not been enough for the authorities to take any action.
In an earlier TOI report, it came to light that there has been absolutely no update on the 1.86 lakh jackets, which is still at the trial evaluation stage.
Thus, if a Parliament's Standing Committee on Defence report is to be believed , nearly 3.5 lakh jawans don't have access to bullet proof jackets.
This means that they are shielding our country's borders without their basic kit shielding them.
If this was not enough, a separate proposal for purchasing helmets too seems to have made no headway.

Indian Army yet to receive bullet-proof jackets promised to them in 2009 - Firstpost
 
Keep depending on DRDO and this is bound to happen.

Army still to get proper bullet-proof jackets a decade after demand - The Times of India

NEW DELHI: The 1.1-million strong Army is still nowhere near fighting fit. The force may have inked contracts worth Rs 11,777 crore this fiscal but none of its critical modernization projects for howitzers, helicopters, anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs), assault rifles or even night-vision devices are anywhere near closure.

Yes, matters have improved since March 2012 when the then Army chief General VK Singh complained to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh about "large-scale voids" in critical weaponry and ammunition.

If 17 new contracts worth Rs 2,820 crore were signed for the Army in 2011-2012, the figure jumped to 29 contracts worth Rs 7,222 crore in 2012-2013. The tally stands at 17 contracts worth Rs 11,777 crore in the ongoing fiscal.

Army chief General Bikram Singh said another 23 contracts, worth around Rs 12,000 crore, were in the pipeline. "We are hopeful they will be inked before March 31. It's an upward trend, a healthy trend," he said.

That is certainly the case. But most of the contracts inked this year are small-ticket ones, ranging from gunnery simulators and helicopter missile-warning systems to digital control harness and truck-mounted lifting devices.

The important ones approved are few and far between. These include the over Rs 2,000 crore deal for 15,000 3UBK Invar missiles for T-90S tanks and the Rs 1,200 crore one for two additional "troops" of the Israeli Heron spy drones.

The really critical projects are still stuck in the long-winded procurement process. Take the infantry, the largest arm with 355 battalions. Its desperate requirements for bullet-proof jackets, ballistic helmets, new-generation assault rifles with interchangeable barrels, close-quarter battle carbines, light machine guns and third-generation ATGMs have all been hanging fire for several years.

"The Army has a very poor anti-tank capability on the western border with Pakistan. There is a 50% deficiency in ATGMs. The infantry and mechanized infantry hold six types of ATGM launchers of old vintage. Similarly, the case for 1,78,000 advanced assault rifles (for around Rs 10,000 crore) is stuck," said a source.

The force has not inducted a single modern 155mm howitzer since the infamous Bofors scandal of the 1980s. Different artillery projects worth Rs 30,000 crore for 145 ultra-light howitzers, 100 self-propelled tracked guns, 814 mounted gun systems and 1,580 towed guns, among others, are still to come through.

Army Aviation Corps, which had chalked out big plans to induct attack helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft in the future, is yet to get replacements even for its ageing fleet of Cheetah and Chetak helicopters.

The long-delayed Rs 3,000 crore project for acquiring 197 "reconnaissance and surveillance" helicopters from abroad has gone into a tailspin, with the CBI now probing the project as a fallout of the VVIP chopper case. Defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics is also running way behind schedule to develop 187 similar light utility helicopters.

Deals stuck, Army not fighting fit - The Times of India

even our police have latest bullet proof jackets.

According to Indian trolls only DRDO makes best bullet proof jackets so you are wrong.

Corruption is the main issue India is facing when it comes to defence deals

Fortunately Indian private sector is finally joining in so corruption will be less and accountability will be more.
 
Limited resources have been wasted importing expensive western toys。
 
Keep depending on DRDO and this is bound to happen.

Army still to get proper bullet-proof jackets a decade after demand - The Times of India

NEW DELHI: The 1.1-million strong Army is still nowhere near fighting fit. The force may have inked contracts worth Rs 11,777 crore this fiscal but none of its critical modernization projects for howitzers, helicopters, anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs), assault rifles or even night-vision devices are anywhere near closure.

Yes, matters have improved since March 2012 when the then Army chief General VK Singh complained to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh about "large-scale voids" in critical weaponry and ammunition.

If 17 new contracts worth Rs 2,820 crore were signed for the Army in 2011-2012, the figure jumped to 29 contracts worth Rs 7,222 crore in 2012-2013. The tally stands at 17 contracts worth Rs 11,777 crore in the ongoing fiscal.

Army chief General Bikram Singh said another 23 contracts, worth around Rs 12,000 crore, were in the pipeline. "We are hopeful they will be inked before March 31. It's an upward trend, a healthy trend," he said.

That is certainly the case. But most of the contracts inked this year are small-ticket ones, ranging from gunnery simulators and helicopter missile-warning systems to digital control harness and truck-mounted lifting devices.

The important ones approved are few and far between. These include the over Rs 2,000 crore deal for 15,000 3UBK Invar missiles for T-90S tanks and the Rs 1,200 crore one for two additional "troops" of the Israeli Heron spy drones.

The really critical projects are still stuck in the long-winded procurement process. Take the infantry, the largest arm with 355 battalions. Its desperate requirements for bullet-proof jackets, ballistic helmets, new-generation assault rifles with interchangeable barrels, close-quarter battle carbines, light machine guns and third-generation ATGMs have all been hanging fire for several years.

"The Army has a very poor anti-tank capability on the western border with Pakistan. There is a 50% deficiency in ATGMs. The infantry and mechanized infantry hold six types of ATGM launchers of old vintage. Similarly, the case for 1,78,000 advanced assault rifles (for around Rs 10,000 crore) is stuck," said a source.

The force has not inducted a single modern 155mm howitzer since the infamous Bofors scandal of the 1980s. Different artillery projects worth Rs 30,000 crore for 145 ultra-light howitzers, 100 self-propelled tracked guns, 814 mounted gun systems and 1,580 towed guns, among others, are still to come through.

Army Aviation Corps, which had chalked out big plans to induct attack helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft in the future, is yet to get replacements even for its ageing fleet of Cheetah and Chetak helicopters.

The long-delayed Rs 3,000 crore project for acquiring 197 "reconnaissance and surveillance" helicopters from abroad has gone into a tailspin, with the CBI now probing the project as a fallout of the VVIP chopper case. Defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics is also running way behind schedule to develop 187 similar light utility helicopters.

Deals stuck, Army not fighting fit - The Times of India



According to Indian trolls only DRDO makes best bullet proof jackets so you are wrong.



Fortunately Indian private sector is finally joining in so corruption will be less and accountability will be more.


DRDO never claimed to have developed any body armor in the first place you lying son of bitch!!Stop spreading such disinformation and go fukc yourself!!
 
On topic,I don't really understand this fetish for light weight crap!!I mean,had the requirement been for the SF,then I could have understood it (or the ones deployed in high altitudes for obvious reasons).Speed is the 2nd name for SF.But why does the regulars want these things??
Sure the present armors weight 10 kgs but that's because these have got Ballistic steel plates inserts,which provide much much better protection against full sized regualr FMJ rifle bullets like like the NATO M 80,over a much longer period of time compared to the light weight ESAPI plates!!A steel plate can take a lot of hits and still continue to do its job!!Now the ceramic ESAPI plates are much lighter,but it comes at the cost of reduced protection and being totally fragile - so fragile that if you accidentally drop it on a hard surface,it will shatter!!

Look at these following videos to get a hold of what I'm trying to say:




As is it is clearly evidenced from these videos,the steel armor is far more lasting and durable compared to the ceramic ESAPI plates and they do not degrade over time as does the ESAPI!!So my advice - stop whining,hit the gyms and bulk yourselves up!!You have already been provided with reasonable type of protection,now prepare your bodies to carry those around!!

Oh and I almost forgot to add something more - that is the cost comparison.
While a top of of the line NIJ leve III steel plate insert costs some 90 - 100 USD,a decent ESAPI plate of same level can cost from 650 up to 750 USD,depending on the manufacturer!!Though I shouldn't miss out on this little info.
 
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Instead we shall buy cheap reverse engineered crap renamed as YJ,CQ,Type ... Ever heard of p8 ?


Then why do they surrender to ttp ?

Indians funded TTP is almost finished kid and it is good to give your army bullet proof jackets then barking here
 
Keep depending on DRDO and this is bound to happen.

Army still to get proper bullet-proof jackets a decade after demand - The Times of India

NEW DELHI: The 1.1-million strong Army is still nowhere near fighting fit. The force may have inked contracts worth Rs 11,777 crore this fiscal but none of its critical modernization projects for howitzers, helicopters, anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs), assault rifles or even night-vision devices are anywhere near closure.

Yes, matters have improved since March 2012 when the then Army chief General VK Singh complained to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh about "large-scale voids" in critical weaponry and ammunition.

If 17 new contracts worth Rs 2,820 crore were signed for the Army in 2011-2012, the figure jumped to 29 contracts worth Rs 7,222 crore in 2012-2013. The tally stands at 17 contracts worth Rs 11,777 crore in the ongoing fiscal.

Army chief General Bikram Singh said another 23 contracts, worth around Rs 12,000 crore, were in the pipeline. "We are hopeful they will be inked before March 31. It's an upward trend, a healthy trend," he said.

That is certainly the case. But most of the contracts inked this year are small-ticket ones, ranging from gunnery simulators and helicopter missile-warning systems to digital control harness and truck-mounted lifting devices.

The important ones approved are few and far between. These include the over Rs 2,000 crore deal for 15,000 3UBK Invar missiles for T-90S tanks and the Rs 1,200 crore one for two additional "troops" of the Israeli Heron spy drones.

The really critical projects are still stuck in the long-winded procurement process. Take the infantry, the largest arm with 355 battalions. Its desperate requirements for bullet-proof jackets, ballistic helmets, new-generation assault rifles with interchangeable barrels, close-quarter battle carbines, light machine guns and third-generation ATGMs have all been hanging fire for several years.

"The Army has a very poor anti-tank capability on the western border with Pakistan. There is a 50% deficiency in ATGMs. The infantry and mechanized infantry hold six types of ATGM launchers of old vintage. Similarly, the case for 1,78,000 advanced assault rifles (for around Rs 10,000 crore) is stuck," said a source.

The force has not inducted a single modern 155mm howitzer since the infamous Bofors scandal of the 1980s. Different artillery projects worth Rs 30,000 crore for 145 ultra-light howitzers, 100 self-propelled tracked guns, 814 mounted gun systems and 1,580 towed guns, among others, are still to come through.

Army Aviation Corps, which had chalked out big plans to induct attack helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft in the future, is yet to get replacements even for its ageing fleet of Cheetah and Chetak helicopters.

The long-delayed Rs 3,000 crore project for acquiring 197 "reconnaissance and surveillance" helicopters from abroad has gone into a tailspin, with the CBI now probing the project as a fallout of the VVIP chopper case. Defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics is also running way behind schedule to develop 187 similar light utility helicopters.

Deals stuck, Army not fighting fit - The Times of India



According to Indian trolls only DRDO makes best bullet proof jackets so you are wrong.



Fortunately Indian private sector is finally joining in so corruption will be less and accountability will be more.

May be Army generals not getting enough kickback for this deal ?
Why not they simply approach MKU & get world class combat gears ?
 
On topic,I don't really understand this fetish for light weight crap!!I mean,had the requirement been for the SF,then I could have understood it (or the ones deployed in high altitudes for obvious reasons).Speed is the 2nd name for SF.But why does the regulars want these things??
Sure the present armors weight 10 kgs but that's because these have got Ballistic steel plates inserts,which provide much much better protection against full sized regualr FMJ rifle bullets like like the NATO M 80,over a much longer period of time compared to the light weight ESAPI plates!!A steel plate can take a lot of hits and still continue to do its job!!Now the ceramic ESAPI plates are much lighter,but it comes at the cost of reduced protection and being totally fragile - so fragile that if you accidentally drop it on a hard surface,it will shatter!!

Look at these following videos to get a hold of what I'm trying to say:




As is it is clearly evidenced from these videos,the steel armor is far more lasting and durable compared to the ceramic ESAPI plates and they do not degrade over time as does the ESAPI!!So my advice - stop whining,hit the gyms and bulk yourselves up!!You have already been provided with reasonable type of protection,now prepare your bodies to carry those around!!

Oh and I almost forgot to add something more - that is the cost comparison.
While a top of of the line NIJ leve III steel plate insert costs some 90 - 100 USD,a decent ESAPI plate of same level can cost from 650 up to 750 USD,depending on the manufacturer!!Though I shouldn't miss out on this little info.


Can you post pics of body Arnoured used by indian troops?
 
Limited resources have been wasted importing expensive western toys。

Actually no corruption & lethargy are the main issues & only now those are being fixed

On topic,I don't really understand this fetish for light weight crap!!I mean,had the requirement been for the SF,then I could have understood it (or the ones deployed in high altitudes for obvious reasons).Speed is the 2nd name for SF.But why does the regulars want these things??
Sure the present armors weight 10 kgs but that's because these have got Ballistic steel plates inserts,which provide much much better protection against full sized regualr FMJ rifle bullets like like the NATO M 80,over a much longer period of time compared to the light weight ESAPI plates!!A steel plate can take a lot of hits and still continue to do its job!!Now the ceramic ESAPI plates are much lighter,but it comes at the cost of reduced protection and being totally fragile - so fragile that if you accidentally drop it on a hard surface,it will shatter!!

Look at these following videos to get a hold of what I'm trying to say:




As is it is clearly evidenced from these videos,the steel armor is far more lasting and durable compared to the ceramic ESAPI plates and they do not degrade over time as does the ESAPI!!So my advice - stop whining,hit the gyms and bulk yourselves up!!You have already been provided with reasonable type of protection,now prepare your bodies to carry those around!!

Oh and I almost forgot to add something more - that is the cost comparison.
While a top of of the line NIJ leve III steel plate insert costs some 90 - 100 USD,a decent ESAPI plate of same level can cost from 650 up to 750 USD,depending on the manufacturer!!Though I shouldn't miss out on this little info.

Agreed Army should stop whining about this
 
Can you post pics of body Arnoured used by indian troops?

Let me see.

There you go bro :
https://kafilabackup.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/india_kashmir_rebel_attack.jpg?w=600

http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20130911/khan20130911162706740.JPG

http://s3.firstpost.in/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Army-generic-reuters1.jpg

http://im.rediff.com/news/2011/oct/13rr3.jpg

Granted,these are heavy,each weighing 10 kg or so because of the steel inserts but these are far more cheaper to produce and also more durable than the ESAPI inserts.
 
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