Indian Army will hold joint exercises with the Royal Saudi Land Force in Saudi Arabia

[satishkumarcsc]

we will need some political maneuvering to merge Muslim lands... For starters we are planning to bring change in at least two countries simultaneously (I have also heard the number four)... After that state resources shall be put to use to instigate rebellions against these kingdoms and cut throat regimes in the Arab world... Unity of Muslims is now a matter of life and death... and the ones opposing such change in the Arab worlds shall be taken out one by one... You would agree that ordinary Arabs are sick and tired of their leaders too...

Just few questions....what does Pakistan have other than the nuclear bomb that they can offer to the Islamic nations?

What will unite you other than Islam?

Why should the Arabs listen to you?

 

[blain2]

Why is this such a big thing? While its good for regional stability, IA exercising with KSA is no different than IA exercising with PLA.

Both are friendly to Pakistan but that does not mean that they do not or cannot have their own independent foreign policies.

Making friends with countries that understand Pakistan's point of view can actually help both Pakistan and India.

A tactical exercise around familiarization should not be taken out of context where people start thinking KSA is aligned against Pakistan.

I think the tendency exists on both sides here where everything is considered a zero sum game. In reality it is not.

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

The two paragraphs written by you are self contradictory...On one hand you talk about leaving them to their own fate...On the other you want to interfere with their internal activities.

I will go with your first idea though....

Not necessarily... Its more like we both want the same thing... and its not their internal affairs... not anymore anyway

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

Ur statement is full of illusions.

Also, we are not saying that anything will happen suddenly but the change have started to occur that's a very good sign. Now, pakistan is not a priority for saudis.

Just imagine:

1.) When our economy is just US$ 1300 billion we are attracting so much attention and friends what will happen by 2020 when we will be US$ 3000 billion economy.

2.) By 2020 our military power with multiply with addition of 3 aircraft career, 3 Nuke subs, 5th gen fighter, ICBM etc. etc.

3.) The Saudi oil will face downwards and they can't stand radicalism as they will be biggest target of unstable Middle East.

And US will not be of great help for them in new world order.

After 2020 Saudis will say "pakistan???? what is pakistan".

it is more likely that the current Saudi establishment wont be there anymore... heres an indication for you that this is about to happen... Before such a thing happens, you ll hear the news that the annual pilgrimage to Mecca (the Hajj) has been suspended...

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

Well you give your own reasons if you voice your opinions.You consider India and Saudi Arabia to be paper tigers,fine.But what may be the possible reasons for you perception??Without the reasoning part,your post surely looks like a flame attempt.

Where did your post come from??
What is the relation with this thread??
What is the possible connection of being a paper tiger with a joint exercise??
What is the conclusion??
Nothing is there except a one liner.

that post came from the fact that both Saudi and Indian regimes are disgraceful and disgusting...

the relation with this thread is that someone posted this on a Pakistani defence forum as if it were a big thing... Indians and Saudis need to realize that we dont see them so highly...

possible connection... two paper tigers exercising together reported on PDF for whatever reasons... to call them paper tigers shows that we should not be very concerned about this affair...

conclusion is important... We should never trust the Saudi regime... They ll sell their own mothers to keep their tyranny in place...

 

[Muhammad-Bin-Qasim]

Just few questions....what does Pakistan have other than the nuclear bomb that they can offer to the Islamic nations?

What will unite you other than Islam?

Why should the Arabs listen to you?

First question is irrelevant... Unity is important regardless of what we may or may not have... but then we do have the nuclear bomb as you rightly posted...

Second question... Nothing will unite us other than Islam...

Third Question... They listen to us because we talk about a way out from the mess that they find themselves in today... I m talking about the ordinary Arabs... As for their elite... Given half the chance the Arab public will hang all of their leaders... like they did with Saddam Hussain

Now my turn...

Does the idea of pan islamic unity scare you as an Indian?

 

[gubbi]

A country created secular draws its inspiration everywhere from a single religions mythology...contradictory.

Thats a flawed argument. Its not the scope of this thread, but let me emphasize that Hinduism and its traditions are not what one would consider a religion. A civilization, thousands of years old, has over a period of time developed numerous traditions and doctrines. The conglomeration of such was defined by the uninitiated as a "religion" for want of a better word to describe it.

Many of those traditions are still relevant today and are being aptly applied in numerous government policies. Just like many of the ancient Chinese traditions. Abrahamic religions draw many of their traditions from ancient Indian traditions. So accusing India of using Hinduism as a state policy is an ignorant statement. Funnily enough, many of us Hindus dont know much about the traditions which we follow.

On topic, Blain2 very nicely explained it. Each country acts for its best interests. The not-so-knowledgeable tend to get carried away by religious sentiments, but diplomatic relations are not based on emotions. As for all those believing that KSA would support Pakistan in the event of war, take a guess as to what would happen.

 

[Bhairava]

As for the topic... Pakistan should warn the Saudis loud and clear that it will not tolerate the Saudis to engage any military exercises of any kind with India

Ok...What will u do if they dont listen..? Stop buying oil from them ?

Does the idea of pan islamic unity scare you as an Indian?

The odds are much better for finding penguins in Sahara.

 

[majesticpankaj]

they got so much help frm saudis during floods and now few people calling them paper tiger.. utter shame !!!

 

[nForce]

Not necessarily... Its more like we both want the same thing... and its not their internal affairs... not anymore anyway

Please explain how these two statements are not contradictory.

You talking about not interfering,and immediately you talk about interfering.

 

[nForce]

that post came from the fact that both Saudi and Indian regimes are disgraceful and disgusting...

While you are saying that,you must have a good reason behind that as well.So what can be the reasons??

the relation with this thread is that someone posted this on a Pakistani defence forum as if it were a big thing... Indians and Saudis need to realize that we dont see them so highly...

The issue has been posted in the correct section of the forum.That is just more than enough.If you dont consider it to be worthy,then refrain from posting.Let the mods decide what should stay and what not.You are contradicting yourself again here.While you imply that the issue at hand is not a big thing,you want Pakistan to tell KSA not to be party of such an exercise.

possible connection... two paper tigers exercising together reported on PDF for whatever reasons... to call them paper tigers shows that we should not be very concerned about this affair...

Epic fail.Refer to the paragraph above.

conclusion is important... We should never trust the Saudi regime... They ll sell their own mothers to keep their tyranny in place...

Okay then...stop buying oil from Saudi Arabia.This comes after Saudi Arabia emerged to be the biggest contributor to alms after the recent floods in Pakistan.Going by your logic you are no better than what you conceive Saudis to be.

If all the Pakistanis have a mentality like you then you people should have not taken that aid from the Saudis.

You know what???the policies of our country,religion of many people in my country,may differ from that in Saudi Arabia.But these are not deciding factors in an event like this.If we try to think that successful co operation can only happen if the two countries operate in entirely similar manner,then definitely we will be left alone in this World.This is not acceptable to us.See whats the direct impact.We have cordial relations with both the Arabs as well as the Israelis,and it is not that any of the parties have a problem with that.

 

[Machoman]

Saudi's are really surprising me on daily basis. first they allow Isreal to attack Iran and now this. I wonder which direction they are going?

 

[Bhairava]

Saudi's are really surprising me on daily basis. first they allow Isreal to attack Iran and now this. I wonder which direction they are going?

I presume in the right direction....

 

[kingdurgaking]

I can only think of Pakistan + Iran + Turkey + Azerbaijan + Central republic + Bosnia + Kosovar emerging into a united Islamic power block. Not the arabis!

You can safely add UAE into this....They are more pro Pakistan and Anti Indians

 

[rsingh]

I am a dangerous person but I have done nothing and dont plan anything of the kind that you are accusing me of...

He meant Pakistani living in western countries should be carefull.