So which part is distortion of facts Joe? The downing of one's own chopper killing all on board, the loss of Indian jets, capturing of IAF pilot, the 400 to 500 figure which by the way is quoted by Indian army, we along with the rest of the world was having a hard time finding all those bodies.
The image circulated by the IA or for that matter the coordinates does not match with any ammo dump in the area. Many Pakistani posters have even posted the actual photo of the area.
Allow me the indulgence customarily given to the old and infirm, if not yet senile, in these parts.
Since you raised my age, I was born in 1950, and I was present, as a fifteen-year old, when the insertion of trained commandos was represented by the Pakistan Army as actions independent of the Army by activists from the local population (ironically, the local population pointed out the infiltrators to Indian forces). I was present even earlier, when some hapless policemen were chased out by a Pakistani brigade, and that was represented as a famous victory. I was present when we were informed by the usual helpful and very informative sources that Pakistan had won the conflict, since the Indian Army had failed to capture Lahore, and since that was the casus belli; everything earlier, the infiltration into Kashmir, and the attack with armour and artillery on Indian forces in Chhamb, being non-events. I was present seven years later, when the highest leadership of Pakistan came to sign a treaty, made numerous commitments, and received numerous commitments, and I watched while all the commitments made to Pakistan were fulfilled, and all the commitments made by Pakistan were discarded and cast aside like so much used wrapping paper. I was present twenty-eight years later when it was claimed that irregulars, nothing to do with Pakistan and its state apparatus, had taken up positions on the heights of Kargil; I was present when a young officer captured on patrol was returned to us, dead, and with all the signs of horrible torture. I was present when an Indian pilot searching for his downed comrade was shot down at a height that he had no business being, and was shot dead on reaching the ground. I was present when the Pakistan Army completely disowned its dead and the Indian Army buried them in due form, and returned others when their opponents had a change of mind and acknowledged them.
I believe that during my membership of this forum I have given appropriate respect to those who deserved it, like your good self, and I have also received a very flattering respect in turn. However, I now have a question for you and the other respectable people on the forum: do you expect me to believe a single thing that the Pakistan Army says?
