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As the army’s Military Intelligence (MI) and Military Operations (MO) Directorates study the Chinese troop incursion into Indian territory at Daulat Beg Oldi, below the towering Karakoram Pass in Ladakh, military analysts are also scanning a newly-released Chinese document for information that might be of help.

Issued on Apr 16 by the State Council Information Office, the defence White Paper entitled "The Diversified Employment of China's Armed Forces" (hereafter “China’s Armed Forces”) provides an unusually clear look into the structures and missions of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA). The PLA includes China’s ground, air and naval forces, and the Second Artillery Corps that operates the country’s strategic arsenal of ballistic and cruise missiles, including those that carry nuclear payloads.

The document “China’s Armed Forces” has surprised Indian analysts by revealing that the PLA land forces (long regarded as the largest standing army in the world) are actually just half the size that intelligence agencies worldwide had estimated. India has always estimated that the PLA Army (PLAA) numbers 16 lakh soldiers; but the White Paper says the PLAA is just 8.5 lakh strong.

If the White Paper’s figures are authentic the Indian Army, with 12 lakh soldiers, is 50 per cent larger than the PLAA.

The PLAA’s numbers do not include the People's Armed Police Force (PAPF) and the militia, both of which operate behind the frontlines. The Indian Army too gets assistance from central police organization (CPOs) like the Indo-Tibet Border Police (ITBP), the Border Security Force (BSF) and the Sashastra Seema Bal (SSB).

According to the White Paper, 4 lakh airmen man the PLA Air Force (PLAAF), while the PLA Navy (PLAN) has 2.35 lakh sailors.

Indian military planners who prepare for eventualities like the current PLA incursion spiraling out of control, perhaps even into actual fighting, focus less on total numbers than on the units and formations that can quickly come into action. The White Paper fully corroborates the army’s estimates of Chinese formations on the Sino-Indian border.

MI has long known that two out of China’s seven Military Area Commands (MACs) --- Shenyang, Beijing, Lanzhou, Jinan, Nanjing, Guangzhou and Chengdu --- are responsible for the Indian border. The Lanzhou MAC, which includes the 21st and 47th Combined Corps (earlier known as Group Armies), is responsible for operations on the Ladakh border. The Chengdu MAC, which includes the 13th and 14th Combined Corps, is responsible for the Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh borders.

Between them, these four Chinese combined corps muster up nine divisions and five mechanized brigades. The Indian Army matches that with nine divisions on the Sino-Indian border --- one in Ladakh, three in Sikkim, four in Arunachal and two in Nagaland and Manipur. In addition, India plans to raise a mountain strike corps during the 12th Defence Plan (2012-2017), which will add two more divisions. These will be stationed in the Brahmaputra Valley for launching offensive operations into Tibet.

India not just matches the PLAA division-for-division but, given the PLAA’s revised overall numbers, China’s formations could have significantly less troops than what had been earlier anticipated. That means numerical superiority on the Sino-Indian border quite clearly lies with India.

However, China’s road and rail infrastructure allows it the major advantage of being able to move troops rapidly, even from other MACs. This would permit the PLAA to quickly concentrate a large number of troops in a small area, attacking and overwhelming the Indian defenders at that point. Since the Sikkim and Arunachal roads are poor and railways non-existent, the Indian Army would find it difficult to move defenders as quickly to the threatened sector.

The White Paper reveals that the PLAA has extensively practiced concentrating troops in a conflict zone. The document says, “Since 2010, a series of campaign-level exercises and drills code-named "Mission Action" for trans-MAC maneuvers have been carried out…. In 2011, relevant troops from the Chengdu and Jinan MACs were organized and carried out the exercise in plateau areas (i.e. Tibet). In 2012, the Chengdu, Jinan and Lanzhou MACs and relevant PLAAF troops were organized and carried out the exercise in southwestern China (i.e. Tibet).

“China’s Armed Forces” is apparently Beijing’s response to the international community’s repeated demands for clarity on China’s worrying military build up. Beijing’s projection of a benign and responsible international image goes hand-in-hand with its rather more bare-knuckled handling of the Diaoyu/Senkaku islands dispute with Japan; its insistence on control over the South China Sea; and its recent protests over Washington’s decision to sell F-16 fighters to Taiwan.

Broadsword: Indian Army matches China man-for-man on the border
 
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For our part :- We've sanctioned four new divisions, with some 80,000 soldiers, to reinforce the seven divisions that already defend the north-eastern states of Arunachal Pradesh and Sikkim. Simultaneously, the Indian Air Force (IAF) has beefed up the Tezpur and Chhabua air bases with capable Sukhoi-30MKI fighters. The IAF is upgrading five more air bases and a string of advanced landing grounds (called ALGs) that will allow big helicopters, light fixed-wing aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs, or drones) to operate along the border. Six squadrons of the indigenous Akash anti-aircraft missile system will soon guard India’s vulnerable air space along the Eastern Himalayas. Ground troops remain short of artillery fire support, but batteries of the indigenous Pinaka multi-barrel rocket launcher have been sent to the Northeast. Furthermore two armoured brigades, with more than 500 T-90 tanks and BMP-IIs will be deployed to the LAC for the first time. One of these will be stationed in Ladakh, while the other will operate in the Northeast.

What worries us :- The Chinese on the other hand have, given their military deployment in Tibet and Xinjiang, and its expanding road and rail infrastructure- the capability to concentrate seven to nine divisions within a fortnight for an offensive against a chosen point in the eastern sector of the LAC.


It boils down to infrastructure and our lackadaisical approach to artillery procurement/development. If we want to ensure our security then this time when the tenders for the artillery pieces we've developed finally come in- they must be conclusive. The FMS route sale of the M-777 is a done deal. We will, lastly, still be relatively deficient in the matter of MRCM/LRCM capabilities till a canisterized land based Nirbhay comes out. Not to mention the Apaches that are headed that way. All in all it boils down to infrastructure and we've started late with that.
 
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What is the BS with this India-China threads lately ? Nothing coming from Pakistan side so target China. Sometimes this Indian media and these Indian observers make me sick.
 
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nothing gonna happen, both sides are going to huge each other and say "yoo bro, long time we did not have any fun :meeting:, lets put guns toward each other then watch and listen media, they give good entertainment :pop:"
 
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Nice to hear but the Biggest Advantage is on Chinese Part, they can mount the arms and troops in days with given their Infrastructure Build up where we fall behind totally,

nothing gonna happen, both sides are going to huge each other and say "yoo bro, long time we did not have any fun :meeting:, lets put guns toward each other then watch and listen media, they give good entertainment :pop:"

Actually there'de be no war between india and China if WW3 don't take place.. but with Pakistan Its likely,
 
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Nice to hear but the Biggest Advantage is on Chinese Part, they can mount the arms and troops in days with given their Infrastructure Build up where we fall behind totally,



Actually there'de be no war between india and China if WW3 don't take place.. but with Pakistan Its likely,

if WW3 take place it will not be China vs India, it will be East countries vs West countries.
 
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if WW3 take place it will not be China vs India, it will be East countries vs West countries.

Are you telling me that India and Pakistan would be Allies ? and given the current policies of Chinese to Counter India by Building ports around us would help both our countries to stand together? Not to mention the Mess in SCS
 
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if WW3 take place it will not be China vs India, it will be East countries vs West countries.

Are you telling me that India and Pakistan would be Allies ? and given the current policies of Chinese to Counter India by Building ports around us would help both our countries to stand together? Not to mention the Mess in SCS
 
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now we need to match them in infrastructure...
 
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The white paper clearly states that the strength of their amy is 1.4 million, not 0.85 million.

0.85 million is the number of troops organised into various corps. Additionally they have several independent brigades, that they call "Independent combined operational divisions".

Together, that makes their strength about 1.485 million.


Then they also have a strategic missile corps, whos strength is classified.

China officially reveals the size of its Army - Hindustan Times

Thanks buddy
 
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