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NEW DELHI: The Indian Air Force (IAF) will buy one more Lockheed Martin C 130J Super Hercules medium-lift aircraft apart from the 12 contracted for to make up for the loss of one plane in an accident in March.

The IAF chief, Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha, told India Strategic magazine (..:: India Strategic ::.. Home Page: The authoritative monthly on Defence and Strategic Affairs. ) in an interview that the induction of the C-130Js, as also the heavy-lift Boeing C-17 Globemaster IIIs had "brought about a paradigm shift in our airlift capabilities".


The IAF had initially acquired six C-130Js, and over three-and-a-half years of operations so far, the aircraft have played a highly significant role in disaster relief, setting global standards. Acknowledging this, the air chief said that six more C-130Js were to arrive by 2016 and would be deployed in eastern India.

As for the lost aircraft, which crashed during a tactical exercise near the Indian capital, he said a replacement aircraft was being ordered to maintain the envisaged strength.

India Strategic quoted the air chief as saying: "While the C-17 had "enhanced our strategic footprint," the C-130J "has emerged as a significant enabler for Special Operations, besides being extensively deployed for varied tasks".

"We expect to induct more of these platforms as we gain more experience in their utilisation and expand upon their roles," he said, without defining numbers and timelines. IAF does indeed require more combat and transport aircraft, but how many it orders and when would depend upon the availability of funds.

As for the C-17s, six have already been delivered and the remaining four of the ten ordered so far are due within the next four months by end-2014.

The IAF has projected a requirement of a second lot of eight C-17s followed by a third lot of another six. A final decision is pending. A window to order a few more C-17s is there but this may be lost if India does not exercise it soon as the factory would be closing in the near future. Boeing though has said that it has made long-term arrangements for spares and service support to the C-17 fleets around the world.

Notably, the C-130J is designed on a platform made half a century ago and has earned the reputation for being sturdy and one of the safest aircraft in the world.

A few years ago, Lockheed Martin had mooted a proposal to shift its manufacturing plant to India if the IAF and civil authorities would commit purchase of a minimum of 40 aircraft, saying it could be deployed economically in India's tough northeastern and mountainous region on short, unpaved airfields by civil airlines.
The aircraft is also used in VIP configuration in some countries.

Read more at:
Indian Air Force to replace crashed C-130J medium-lift aircraft - The Economic Times
 
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24 C-17s? really? Surely its not going to be cheap.
 
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The article says

"..............Lockheed Martin had mooted a proposal to shift its manufacturing plant to India if the IAF and civil authorities would commit purchase of a minimum of 40 aircraft"

I can't believe India did not take up that offer :woot:

Its still not too late, maybe Reliance of some other private players can purchase and shift the entire production line here if GoI can commit to buying more of this aircraft's. We must seriously look into this.
 
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The article says

"..............Lockheed Martin had mooted a proposal to shift its manufacturing plant to India if the IAF and civil authorities would commit purchase of a minimum of 40 aircraft"

I can't believe India did not take up that offer :woot:

Its still not too late, maybe Reliance of some other private players can purchase and shift the entire production line here if GoI can commit to buying more of this aircraft's. We must seriously look into this.
Me too Man C-17 is Awesome Lifter Aircraft we should go for offer
 
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The article says

"..............Lockheed Martin had mooted a proposal to shift its manufacturing plant to India if the IAF and civil authorities would commit purchase of a minimum of 40 aircraft"

I can't believe India did not take up that offer :woot:

Its still not too late, maybe Reliance of some other private players can purchase and shift the entire production line here if GoI can commit to buying more of this aircraft's. We must seriously look into this.
Which 40 aircraft C-130J or C-17?
 
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24 C-17s? really? Surely its not going to be cheap.

False reporting! There was always only an option of 6 more and the production of the C17 is going to end next year with just 12 of them being produced, that doesn't have a customer yet. So if we take the optional 6, there only would be the possibility to get 6 more and as Flight Global reports, Austalia is interested in buying at least 2 of them.
Not sure where the author got the order of 8, but he definitely confused something and yes, no matter how much we order, it will be an expensive order.

The article says

"..............Lockheed Martin had mooted a proposal to shift its manufacturing plant to India if the IAF and civil authorities would commit purchase of a minimum of 40 aircraft"

I can't believe India did not take up that offer :woot:

They offered that via TATA, since they already are producing parts for the C130J and offered the production line of the Sea Herc, if IN would select it in a reasonable number. However, a production line of C130Js doesn't make sense for India, since we jointly develop the MTA, which is the same class of transport aircraft. The C130Js in IAF were only procured for their special ops capabilities, not for normal transport roles in the long run, that will be done by MTAs and Avro replacements and any further order beyond the 12, would automatically reduce the number of MTAs, therefor would make it less worth the money we spend in the development.


Btw guys, the most important part of the article was this one:

India Strategic quoted the air chief as saying: "While the C-17 had "enhanced our strategic footprint," the C-130J "has emerged as a significant enabler for Special Operations, besides being extensively deployed for varied tasks".

Clearly showing the separation of importance and roles of both aircrafts. While the C17 is strictly meant for strategic long range or heavy payload roles, the C130J offers IAF far more capability, because it can be used in a more suitable manner for the operations in and around India. So it's not the C17 that he praise, but the C130J that makes IAF actually so much more capable!
 
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They offered that via TATA, since they already are producing parts for the C130J and offered the production line of the Sea Herc, if IN would select it in a reasonable number. However, a production line of C130Js doesn't make sense for India, since we jointly develop the MTA, which is the same class of transport aircraft. The C130Js in IAF were only procured for their special ops capabilities, not for normal transport roles in the long run, that will be done by MTAs and Avro replacements and any further order beyond the 12, would automatically reduce the number of MTAs, therefor would make it less worth the money we spend in the development.

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C-130J is a proven a/c with great specs. It would have been a great buy as a replacement for Avro and MTA's. No reason why it cannot be the new MTA.
 
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C-130J is a proven a/c with great specs. It would have been a great buy as a replacement for Avro and MTA's. No reason why it cannot be the new MTA.

It is too expensive to replace Avros with and would kill the MTA project. Why would you want to procure a foreign aircraft with some licence productions in India, if you can own 50% of an aircraft in the same class, developed and designed for your requirements, with far more industrial benefits and safe logistics and maintenance options in India?
There is no denying that the C130J is a good aircraft, but if we have the choice to have an own / jointly developed one, that is clearly the better choice. The only sad thing is, that we didn't joined the Brazilian aircraft development, which seems to gain a good lot of orders.
 
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