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Its pretty funny that India has to purchase weapons from such a small country. But these weapons could prove to be a strategic threat to Pakistan and China.

India’s Promising Israel Defense Ties | The Diplomat

India’s Promising Israel Defense Ties
Stalled on scandals, a missile deal has given the defense relationship a shot in the arm.
By Alvite Ningthoujam
October 09, 2014

In what could be considered a major breakthrough for Indo-Israeli defense ties, under the newly installed Bharatiya Janata Pary (BJP) government led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, India will finally get its much-needed Barak-1 missile, manufactured by the Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI). This is a significant step for the new government in New Delhi, particularly considering the depleted defensive capabilities of Indian warships. With delivery scheduled for December 2015, fourteen ships that presently lack missile systems will be outfitted with the Barak-1.

Going back a little more than a decade, Indo-Israeli cooperation were derailed by allegations of bribery and corruption allegations. The issues surfaced when India’s Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) conducted a probe into IAI and Rafael regarding the supply of Barak-1 missiles, in a deal orchestrated by the then BJP-led NDA government in 2000. India’s Defence Minister at the time, George Fernandes, retired Naval Chief Admiral Sushil Kumar, and a number of others were involved in the scandal. It was discovered that the deal had been signed by Fernandes over the objections of the government’s scientific advisor and former Indian President A.P.J Abdul Kalam, and against the advice of the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO). Specifically, questions had been raised over the need to purchase Israeli missile systems when India’s indigenously built Trishul was nearly functional.

In the wake of the kickback allegations, India’s left-wing parties, particularly the Communist Party of India-Marxist (CPI-M), demanded that India refuse all deals with Israel, and particularly with IAI. In the event, neither IAI nor Rafael was blacklisted, and indeed they became two of the most important Israeli defense firms operating in India. Still, the controversies gave the political left, India’s pro-Palestinian groups, and social activists ammunition to pressure the government to curb ties with Israel in general, and defense cooperation in particular.

However, the CBI investigation was closed in December 2013, with the admission that there was no evidence against the accused, including the former defense minister, former Samata Party president Jaya Jaitly, a former navy chief, and others. This outcome has breathed new life into India-Israel defense ties, which are now an important pillar of overall bilateral ties. Criticisms notwithstanding, the two countries are working to enhance their defense cooperation, much of which involves boosting the arms trade (worth an estimated $10 billion over the last decade) and moving ahead with joint projects. The framework for the Barak missile deal was laid down by the previous Congress-led United Progressive Alliance government, although it fell short of giving the final nod to the acquisition. Last year ended on a positive note as the then government approved the procurement of up to 15 Heron Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) from Israel, which will likely bolster the reconnaissance and surveillance capabilities of Indian armed forces along the borders with Pakistan and China.

The green light that has now been given by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS), which Modi chairs, for the acquisition of 262 missiles has come much to the relief of the Indian Navy, given its rapidly dwindling stock of anti-ballistic missiles for its frontline battleships. The Indian Navy has been voicing concerns over its deficiencies, with ships operating without missile defense systems. New Delhi’s announcement of the procurement at a whopping cost of $144 million is thus a welcome move. It is also a the first major advance in Indo-Israel defense ties since Modi took power.

The BJP’s big election win earlier this year was followed by a great deal of pontification on the likely foreign policy India would adopt in its immediate neighborhood, with Western and Eastern powers, and with Middle Eastern countries. In the context of this discussion, Israel has received more than its share of attention. Apart from the economic and civilian ties India shares with Israel, many pundits believe military cooperation will also gather momentum. There are memories in New Delhi of Israel’s rapid response to India’s request for military assistance during a crisis (particularly, the 1999 Kargil War, when the BJP was in power), which increased Israel’s credibility as a reliable arms supplier and helped bolster the bilateral relationship.

While the go-ahead for the Barak deal will not in itself necessarily spark a golden age of Indo-Israel defense cooperation, it is certainly an important step in that direction. Beyond arms trade, there are several factors that would encourage the countries to cooperate. For instance, India and Israel share threat perceptions when it comes to their immediate adversaries and rising terror activities targeting them, and this will remain a binding force in their bilateral relations. Their defense establishments will be committed to robust cooperation in intelligence sharing and counterterrorism. Signaling an appetite for further engagement in military-security affairs, India’s Defence Secretary R.K. Mathur paid a three-day visit to Israel in early July, during which he discussed arms deals, including a missile development program and the procurement of two Israeli-made Airborne Early Warning and Control Systems (AWACS) for the Indian Air Force. Israel has been pushing New Delhi – as yet, without success – to procure its Iron Dome air defense system for protection against incoming short- and long-range range missile threats.

New Delhi’s clearance of the stalled Barak deal is a clear signal of India’s continuing preference for Israeli-made missile defense systems. This is one area where Israel’s presence in the Indian defense market is secure. That said, it remains as a space where competition from other foreign vendors always looms large.

The U.S. for one. America is keen to enter the Indian market. In fact, the U.S.-made Javelin missile was in a face-off with Israel’s Spike anti-tank guide missiles in a contract meant for the Indian Army. Hoping to tap the lucrative Indian defense market, the Pentagon has already demonstrated its willingness to offer “groundbreaking” defense technologies to India, including helicopters and UAVs. The Obama administration is also hoping for joint development and production of items such as drones and missiles with India, as part of the much-hyped “Defence Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI)” with New Delhi. In view of these initiatives, which are already in the discussion-stage, Modi’s recent visit to the U.S. will have been watched closely, not only by Indian defense planners but by their Israeli counterparts as well. If the U.S. succeeds in entering the Indian defense market by supplying missiles, anti-missile systems and drones, then it could well provide Israel with some stiff competition. But for this to happen, both India and the U.S. will need to overcome some entrenched issues on military technology transfer mechanisms, the main roadblock for the further enhancement of their defense cooperation. This in itself will be an enormous hurdle to conquer.

In the meantime, with their longstanding ties, defense cooperation between India and Israel looks set to grow stronger. Certainly, in the presence of heightened criticism within India over the cordial ties, and particularly the debate on India’s stance vis-à-vis the recent Gaza crisis, dealings on matters related to military affairs are likely to proceed very cautiously. But with this Barak deal, there is little chance they will be shelved.

Alvite Singh Ningthoujam is a PhD researcher at the School of International Studies, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi, India.
 
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Good for Israel, I guess.

Jewish peoples are barely 14 million in the world, and 6 million in Israel. Their entire history is filled with persecution, their containment, their destruction, discrimination against them, remaining state-less for thousands of years, and remaining a small people since they were never allow to expand/grow...

Now, they atlast have a state and are enjoying life. Good. Let them enjoy...
 
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Good for Israel, I guess.

Jewish peoples are barely 14 million in the world, and 6 million in Israel. Their entire history is filled with persecution, their containment, their destruction, discrimination against them, remaining state-less for thousands of years, and remaining a small people since they were never allow to expand/grow...

Now, they atlast have a state and are enjoying life. Good. Let them enjoy...

After long time hearing some good words from someone regarding Jews and Israel. This world is big enough to accommodate all the humans, but don't know when will human's will understand this..... :)
 
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Even more funny that China , the daddy also wanted to buy from Israeli Radars but denied .... Russia big daddy of China / india also buy Israeli drones

True, the SD-10 BVR missile is believed to be copied from Isreali Python Series.
J-10 is alleged to be a copied design of Isreali Lavi project that later got cancelled.
 
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Its pretty funny that India has to purchase weapons from such a small country. But these weapons could prove to be a strategic threat to Pakistan and China.

India’s Promising Israel Defense Ties | The Diplomat

India’s Promising Israel Defense Ties
Stalled on scandals, a missile deal has given the defense relationship a shot in the arm.
By Alvite Ningthoujam
October 09, 2014

In what could be considered a major breakthrough for Indo-Israeli defense ties, under the newly installed Bharatiya Janata Pary (BJP) government led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, India will finally get its much-needed Barak-1 missile, manufactured by the Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI). This is a significant step for the new government in New Delhi, particularly considering the depleted defensive capabilities of Indian warships. With delivery scheduled for December 2015, fourteen ships that presently lack missile systems will be outfitted with the Barak-1.

Going back a little more than a decade, Indo-Israeli cooperation were derailed by allegations of bribery and corruption allegations. The issues surfaced when India’s Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) conducted a probe into IAI and Rafael regarding the supply of Barak-1 missiles, in a deal orchestrated by the then BJP-led NDA government in 2000. India’s Defence Minister at the time, George Fernandes, retired Naval Chief Admiral Sushil Kumar, and a number of others were involved in the scandal. It was discovered that the deal had been signed by Fernandes over the objections of the government’s scientific advisor and former Indian President A.P.J Abdul Kalam, and against the advice of the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO). Specifically, questions had been raised over the need to purchase Israeli missile systems when India’s indigenously built Trishul was nearly functional.

In the wake of the kickback allegations, India’s left-wing parties, particularly the Communist Party of India-Marxist (CPI-M), demanded that India refuse all deals with Israel, and particularly with IAI. In the event, neither IAI nor Rafael was blacklisted, and indeed they became two of the most important Israeli defense firms operating in India. Still, the controversies gave the political left, India’s pro-Palestinian groups, and social activists ammunition to pressure the government to curb ties with Israel in general, and defense cooperation in particular.

However, the CBI investigation was closed in December 2013, with the admission that there was no evidence against the accused, including the former defense minister, former Samata Party president Jaya Jaitly, a former navy chief, and others. This outcome has breathed new life into India-Israel defense ties, which are now an important pillar of overall bilateral ties. Criticisms notwithstanding, the two countries are working to enhance their defense cooperation, much of which involves boosting the arms trade (worth an estimated $10 billion over the last decade) and moving ahead with joint projects. The framework for the Barak missile deal was laid down by the previous Congress-led United Progressive Alliance government, although it fell short of giving the final nod to the acquisition. Last year ended on a positive note as the then government approved the procurement of up to 15 Heron Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) from Israel, which will likely bolster the reconnaissance and surveillance capabilities of Indian armed forces along the borders with Pakistan and China.

The green light that has now been given by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS), which Modi chairs, for the acquisition of 262 missiles has come much to the relief of the Indian Navy, given its rapidly dwindling stock of anti-ballistic missiles for its frontline battleships. The Indian Navy has been voicing concerns over its deficiencies, with ships operating without missile defense systems. New Delhi’s announcement of the procurement at a whopping cost of $144 million is thus a welcome move. It is also a the first major advance in Indo-Israel defense ties since Modi took power.

The BJP’s big election win earlier this year was followed by a great deal of pontification on the likely foreign policy India would adopt in its immediate neighborhood, with Western and Eastern powers, and with Middle Eastern countries. In the context of this discussion, Israel has received more than its share of attention. Apart from the economic and civilian ties India shares with Israel, many pundits believe military cooperation will also gather momentum. There are memories in New Delhi of Israel’s rapid response to India’s request for military assistance during a crisis (particularly, the 1999 Kargil War, when the BJP was in power), which increased Israel’s credibility as a reliable arms supplier and helped bolster the bilateral relationship.

While the go-ahead for the Barak deal will not in itself necessarily spark a golden age of Indo-Israel defense cooperation, it is certainly an important step in that direction. Beyond arms trade, there are several factors that would encourage the countries to cooperate. For instance, India and Israel share threat perceptions when it comes to their immediate adversaries and rising terror activities targeting them, and this will remain a binding force in their bilateral relations. Their defense establishments will be committed to robust cooperation in intelligence sharing and counterterrorism. Signaling an appetite for further engagement in military-security affairs, India’s Defence Secretary R.K. Mathur paid a three-day visit to Israel in early July, during which he discussed arms deals, including a missile development program and the procurement of two Israeli-made Airborne Early Warning and Control Systems (AWACS) for the Indian Air Force. Israel has been pushing New Delhi – as yet, without success – to procure its Iron Dome air defense system for protection against incoming short- and long-range range missile threats.

New Delhi’s clearance of the stalled Barak deal is a clear signal of India’s continuing preference for Israeli-made missile defense systems. This is one area where Israel’s presence in the Indian defense market is secure. That said, it remains as a space where competition from other foreign vendors always looms large.

The U.S. for one. America is keen to enter the Indian market. In fact, the U.S.-made Javelin missile was in a face-off with Israel’s Spike anti-tank guide missiles in a contract meant for the Indian Army. Hoping to tap the lucrative Indian defense market, the Pentagon has already demonstrated its willingness to offer “groundbreaking” defense technologies to India, including helicopters and UAVs. The Obama administration is also hoping for joint development and production of items such as drones and missiles with India, as part of the much-hyped “Defence Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI)” with New Delhi. In view of these initiatives, which are already in the discussion-stage, Modi’s recent visit to the U.S. will have been watched closely, not only by Indian defense planners but by their Israeli counterparts as well. If the U.S. succeeds in entering the Indian defense market by supplying missiles, anti-missile systems and drones, then it could well provide Israel with some stiff competition. But for this to happen, both India and the U.S. will need to overcome some entrenched issues on military technology transfer mechanisms, the main roadblock for the further enhancement of their defense cooperation. This in itself will be an enormous hurdle to conquer.

In the meantime, with their longstanding ties, defense cooperation between India and Israel looks set to grow stronger. Certainly, in the presence of heightened criticism within India over the cordial ties, and particularly the debate on India’s stance vis-à-vis the recent Gaza crisis, dealings on matters related to military affairs are likely to proceed very cautiously. But with this Barak deal, there is little chance they will be shelved.

Alvite Singh Ningthoujam is a PhD researcher at the School of International Studies, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi, India.
The words like small country show your level and why pakistan is a terrorist state
 
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OP's logic of confusing size with capability is kiddish.If size was only parameter then Britain would never have become GREAT BRITAIN. Russia wouldn't have splintered. Pakistan would have been more advanced than South Korea or Singapore.

That's not an ordinary small country as it has exhibited it's might to beat the shit out of 7-8 big arabian countries fighting together as an ally.

India will meet it's defence requirements even from Brunei , iff Brunei is capable of meeting them.
 
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Well there is a slight correction. The new government has an interest in indigenous capabilities.

Acquisitions will increase but they will come with clauses to produce weapons and develop research abilities within India. Dhanush, Nirbhay, LUH etc are some small moves as a token.
 
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Good for Israel, I guess.

Jewish peoples are barely 14 million in the world, and 6 million in Israel. Their entire history is filled with persecution, their containment, their destruction, discrimination against them, remaining state-less for thousands of years, and remaining a small people since they were never allow to expand/grow...

Now, they atlast have a state and are enjoying life. Good. Let them enjoy...


No good for both Indian and Israel. We both have similiar histories.
 
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Nothing to do with BJP govt. These deals are there since UPA time or even before that.
 
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Its pretty funny that India has to purchase weapons from such a small country. But these weapons could prove to be a strategic threat to Pakistan and China.

India’s Promising Israel Defense Ties | The Diplomat

India’s Promising Israel Defense Ties
Stalled on scandals, a missile deal has given the defense relationship a shot in the arm.
By Alvite Ningthoujam
October 09, 2014

In what could be considered a major breakthrough for Indo-Israeli defense ties, under the newly installed Bharatiya Janata Pary (BJP) government led by Prime Minister Narendra Modi, India will finally get its much-needed Barak-1 missile, manufactured by the Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI). This is a significant step for the new government in New Delhi, particularly considering the depleted defensive capabilities of Indian warships. With delivery scheduled for December 2015, fourteen ships that presently lack missile systems will be outfitted with the Barak-1.

Going back a little more than a decade, Indo-Israeli cooperation were derailed by allegations of bribery and corruption allegations. The issues surfaced when India’s Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) conducted a probe into IAI and Rafael regarding the supply of Barak-1 missiles, in a deal orchestrated by the then BJP-led NDA government in 2000. India’s Defence Minister at the time, George Fernandes, retired Naval Chief Admiral Sushil Kumar, and a number of others were involved in the scandal. It was discovered that the deal had been signed by Fernandes over the objections of the government’s scientific advisor and former Indian President A.P.J Abdul Kalam, and against the advice of the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO). Specifically, questions had been raised over the need to purchase Israeli missile systems when India’s indigenously built Trishul was nearly functional.

In the wake of the kickback allegations, India’s left-wing parties, particularly the Communist Party of India-Marxist (CPI-M), demanded that India refuse all deals with Israel, and particularly with IAI. In the event, neither IAI nor Rafael was blacklisted, and indeed they became two of the most important Israeli defense firms operating in India. Still, the controversies gave the political left, India’s pro-Palestinian groups, and social activists ammunition to pressure the government to curb ties with Israel in general, and defense cooperation in particular.

However, the CBI investigation was closed in December 2013, with the admission that there was no evidence against the accused, including the former defense minister, former Samata Party president Jaya Jaitly, a former navy chief, and others. This outcome has breathed new life into India-Israel defense ties, which are now an important pillar of overall bilateral ties. Criticisms notwithstanding, the two countries are working to enhance their defense cooperation, much of which involves boosting the arms trade (worth an estimated $10 billion over the last decade) and moving ahead with joint projects. The framework for the Barak missile deal was laid down by the previous Congress-led United Progressive Alliance government, although it fell short of giving the final nod to the acquisition. Last year ended on a positive note as the then government approved the procurement of up to 15 Heron Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) from Israel, which will likely bolster the reconnaissance and surveillance capabilities of Indian armed forces along the borders with Pakistan and China.

The green light that has now been given by the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS), which Modi chairs, for the acquisition of 262 missiles has come much to the relief of the Indian Navy, given its rapidly dwindling stock of anti-ballistic missiles for its frontline battleships. The Indian Navy has been voicing concerns over its deficiencies, with ships operating without missile defense systems. New Delhi’s announcement of the procurement at a whopping cost of $144 million is thus a welcome move. It is also a the first major advance in Indo-Israel defense ties since Modi took power.

The BJP’s big election win earlier this year was followed by a great deal of pontification on the likely foreign policy India would adopt in its immediate neighborhood, with Western and Eastern powers, and with Middle Eastern countries. In the context of this discussion, Israel has received more than its share of attention. Apart from the economic and civilian ties India shares with Israel, many pundits believe military cooperation will also gather momentum. There are memories in New Delhi of Israel’s rapid response to India’s request for military assistance during a crisis (particularly, the 1999 Kargil War, when the BJP was in power), which increased Israel’s credibility as a reliable arms supplier and helped bolster the bilateral relationship.

While the go-ahead for the Barak deal will not in itself necessarily spark a golden age of Indo-Israel defense cooperation, it is certainly an important step in that direction. Beyond arms trade, there are several factors that would encourage the countries to cooperate. For instance, India and Israel share threat perceptions when it comes to their immediate adversaries and rising terror activities targeting them, and this will remain a binding force in their bilateral relations. Their defense establishments will be committed to robust cooperation in intelligence sharing and counterterrorism. Signaling an appetite for further engagement in military-security affairs, India’s Defence Secretary R.K. Mathur paid a three-day visit to Israel in early July, during which he discussed arms deals, including a missile development program and the procurement of two Israeli-made Airborne Early Warning and Control Systems (AWACS) for the Indian Air Force. Israel has been pushing New Delhi – as yet, without success – to procure its Iron Dome air defense system for protection against incoming short- and long-range range missile threats.

New Delhi’s clearance of the stalled Barak deal is a clear signal of India’s continuing preference for Israeli-made missile defense systems. This is one area where Israel’s presence in the Indian defense market is secure. That said, it remains as a space where competition from other foreign vendors always looms large.

The U.S. for one. America is keen to enter the Indian market. In fact, the U.S.-made Javelin missile was in a face-off with Israel’s Spike anti-tank guide missiles in a contract meant for the Indian Army. Hoping to tap the lucrative Indian defense market, the Pentagon has already demonstrated its willingness to offer “groundbreaking” defense technologies to India, including helicopters and UAVs. The Obama administration is also hoping for joint development and production of items such as drones and missiles with India, as part of the much-hyped “Defence Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI)” with New Delhi. In view of these initiatives, which are already in the discussion-stage, Modi’s recent visit to the U.S. will have been watched closely, not only by Indian defense planners but by their Israeli counterparts as well. If the U.S. succeeds in entering the Indian defense market by supplying missiles, anti-missile systems and drones, then it could well provide Israel with some stiff competition. But for this to happen, both India and the U.S. will need to overcome some entrenched issues on military technology transfer mechanisms, the main roadblock for the further enhancement of their defense cooperation. This in itself will be an enormous hurdle to conquer.

In the meantime, with their longstanding ties, defense cooperation between India and Israel looks set to grow stronger. Certainly, in the presence of heightened criticism within India over the cordial ties, and particularly the debate on India’s stance vis-à-vis the recent Gaza crisis, dealings on matters related to military affairs are likely to proceed very cautiously. But with this Barak deal, there is little chance they will be shelved.

Alvite Singh Ningthoujam is a PhD researcher at the School of International Studies, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi, India.
Don't underestimate Israelian technology. I worked on Samuel mehrav israeli author's book and simply they are on top.
 
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India is a milking cow and Jews love Milking cows, they even milk bull.. ;)
 
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