India 'too democratic' to overtake China as economic superpower

[Götterdämmerung]

Because while Western Europeans, Japanese, Koreans etc are single race/language states, India aint.

Consider India as Europe as a whole and the different countries in Europe as the different states in India..you ll get the picture.

I was not talking about European countries being single ethnic states, which is not even true in some cases (Switzerland, Spain, Belgium), but rather about the English language giving India some kind of advantage in the international market. Except the UK and Ireland, none of us uses English and yet we are successful internationally.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

It doesn't matter what system India adopts, they are just too dumb to beat China. They were too dumb to beat us in war. They are very backward people just like Africans. Just go look at the IQ levels of Indians and Africans and compare that to East Asians.
Just look at the way Indians behave toward women and the way they drive, compare that to how Chinese behave a d how Chinese drive. You will see Indians are behind Chinese in the human evolution cycle.

It's irrelevant what system economic or political system India has, no system can modernise backward humans.

Taking IQ as an argument is rather stupid. I think given the righ nutrition Indian can be as smart as anyone, but the political calss in India is not interested in improving the situation.

Chinese drivers, though better than Indians, are some of the worst in the world. The constant honking is a nightmare and a noise pollution of the highest degree. As a pedestrian, you have little rights, the bigger the car, the bigger the arsehole behind the driving wheel. Well, to be fair, big arsehole driving a big car exist everywhere, but the Chinese ones are some of the worsts I have ever seen.

 

[KS]

I was not talking about European countries being single ethnic states, which is not even true in some cases (Switzerland, Spain, Belgium), but rather about the English language giving India some kind of advantage in the international market. Except the UK and Ireland, none of us uses English and yet we are successful internationally.

Yes most of the countries you mentioned are good in manufacturing and not in services where English is the most widely used language.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Yes most of the countries you mentioned are good in manufacturing and not in services where English is the most widely used language.

Err, Germany's service industry alone is bigger than India's entire GDP.

Germany 70 % service industry, GDP 3.6 trillion USD
India 56 % service industry, GDP 1.8 trillion USD

 

[Icewolf]

Even if India were not a democracy, India would be behind China as it is today

Some say India is 100 years behind China, some say 50 years.

I say India is about 86-87 years behind China

 

[FaujHistorian]

Err, Germany's service industry alone is bigger than India's entire GDP.

Germany 70 % service industry, GDP 3.6 trillion USD
India 56 % service industry, GDP 1.8 trillion USD

I really appreciate your grasp of the economic metrics.

I mean Germany is the technical giant that the rest of the world should look up to.

However in this thread, discussing German economy and comparing it to Indian one, is to put mildly "comparing apples to oranges".

While Germany has 300+ years of history in scientific development, India barely started its tech march recently and even that was based on British / English education.

So please keep the histories of India vs. Germany in mind before picking and critiquing things that are Indian.


Thank you

 

[oct605032048]

India is too anti-capitalistic to overtake China.

 

[manojb]

Err, Germany's service industry alone is bigger than India's entire GDP.

Germany 70 % service industry, GDP 3.6 trillion USD
India 56 % service industry, GDP 1.8 trillion USD

I dont understand!! this guy comes to defend china and ends up defending Germany

 

[iajj]

Because while Western Europeans, Japanese, Koreans etc are single race/language states, India aint.

Consider India as Europe as a whole and the different countries in Europe as the different states in India..you ll get the picture.

and you know why europeans, nipponzi and chinese all live in a homogeneous nation? because we gave national borders to ourselves where india was merely a collectivity of different races with its nationhood imposed by your white owners. and the same is true of an ill-considered, alien political system that you lot currently must endure

so the real reason of the economic gap between india and others is that all other races are in control of their own destiny whereas these petty races found in your, errrr, nation must suffer the fate of being indian because they are born slaves. you anemic economic performance is NOT the result of your repugant political system: the truth is, both your pathetic economy and your pathetic politics are result of the anglosaxon slavery you lot have willfully and merrily subjected yourselves to.

 

[KS]

and you know why europeans, nipponzi and chinese all live in a homogeneous nation? because we gave national borders to ourselves where india was merely a collectivity of different races with its nationhood imposed by your white owners. and the same is true of an ill-considered, alien political system that you lot currently must endure

so the real reason of the economic gap between india and others is that all other races are in control of their own destiny whereas these petty races found in your, errrr, nation must suffer the fate of being indian because they are born slaves. you anemic economic performance is NOT the result of your repugant political system: the truth is, both your pathetic economy and your pathetic politics are result of the anglosaxon slavery you lot have willfully and merrily subjected yourselves to.

No dumbo, we are the people of the Indus and Vedic civilization and our collective heritage is the Dharmic heritage.

And to put soil on your theories, till 1700s India with all its diversity was controlling more than a quarter of the world economy. Our bottom point is a temporary one and we will reclaim our stature, as it has always been during our more than 5000 year history.

p.s: Dont try this rootless races slave races crap with Indians. Indian civilization is as old and as rich as your Chinese civilization. And even most chinese members here have said you dont represent their country or civilization..so I am not going to start putting mud on an ancient civilization just because some insecurity ridden fellow is yapping on online forums.

 

[Icewolf]

No dumbo, we are the people of the Indus and Vedic civilization and our collective heritage is the Dharmic heritage.

You are as much the "people" of the Indus as much as Pakistan is part of Hindustan.

 

[KS]

You are as much the "people" of the Indus as much as Pakistan is part of Hindustan.

I heard Bohras came from Yemen escaping persecution sometime in the 12th century. So either way you dont get to claim IVC.

And being a Dravidian who was supposedly displaced by the horse riding Aryans (Pakistani's pet theory) I get claim IVC.

In reality, IVC belongs to the people from Bengal to Attock. There are n number of threads on IVC. This thread is already confusing. Dont confuse it more.

 

[Okemos]

Taking IQ as an argument is rather stupid. I think given the righ nutrition Indian can be as smart as anyone, but the political calss in India is not interested in improving the situation.

Chinese drivers, though better than Indians, are some of the worst in the world. The constant honking is a nightmare and a noise pollution of the highest degree. As a pedestrian, you have little rights, the bigger the car, the bigger the arsehole behind the driving wheel. Well, to be fair, big arsehole driving a big car exist everywhere, but the Chinese ones are some of the worsts I have ever seen.

Driving behavior is related to economic and social development. When most people own cars, they will form some social contract. Drivers in Shanghai are must better behaved than those in cities in inner lands. In my last trip to Shanghai, a taxi driver stopped his taxi to drop clients at roadside near cross road and the driver behind him called police. As more and more cars get on road, drivers understand that for better and safer driving environment, they need behave well.

Driving is very similar to queuing. 10 years ago, queuing for anything was chaotic due to economic hardship for past decades. Nowadays, queuing has become social norm.

 

[Icewolf]

I heard Bohras came from Yemen escaping persecution sometime in the 12th century. So either way you dont get to claim IVC.

And being a Dravidian who was supposedly displaced by the horse riding Aryans (Pakistani's pet theory) I get claim IVC.

In reality, IVC belongs to the people from Bengal to Attock. There are n number of threads on IVC. This thread is already confusing. Dont confuse it more.

And Bohras mixed in with the local population. I dont think anyone in Bohra is pure Arab anymore. The most Arab in Bohra is probably the Dais. Be advised this just the South Asian Bohras not the remaining Yemini Bohras

And Dravidians being safekeeper of the IVC is just a THEORY just as the Aryan invasion is also just a theory in layman's terms

 

[INDIC]

And Bohras mixed in with the local population. I dont think anyone in Bohra is pure Arab anymore. The most Arab in Bohra is probably the Dais. Be advised this just the South Asian Bohras not the remaining Yemini Bohras

And Dravidians being safekeeper of the IVC is just a THEORY just as the Aryan invasion is also just a theory in layman's terms

Not a theory, Dravidians were the original founder of Meluhha. And South Indians and other Indians with Dravidian ancestry have claim over it. Pakistani claim on IVC is like white Europeans claiming Native American culture.