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The HAL Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) is a multirole combat helicopterbeing developed in India by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) for use by the Indian Air Force and the Indian Army.


Origins
Combat in Kargil highlighted the requirement of an attack helicopter specially made for such high altitude operations. In 2006, HAL announced its plans to design and build the LCH; funds for designing and developing the LCH to meet the requirements of the Indian Army and the Indian Air Force were sanctioned in October 2006.

The LCH is a derivative of the HAL Dhruv, which was inducted into the Indian armed forces. Basing on an existing helicopter is expected to greatly reduce LCH project costs, which is estimated at 3.76 billion (US$60.2 million).[1] The Indian Air Force is to acquire 65 LCHs and Indian Army is to acquire 114 LCHs.

The LCH was expected to be ready for the Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) by December 2010 with the Final Operational Clearance (FOC) in 2011. However, the revised timeframes for LCH should be ready for induction into IAF by 2012–2013.

Testing[edit]


LCH manoeuvring during Aero India 2013
The first prototype of LCH completed its first ground run on 4 February 2010.HAL has a firm order to deliver 65 LCH to the IAF and 114 to the Army. HAL has performed the maiden flight of its LCH on 29 March 2010. The first LCH Technology Demonstrator (TD-1) flew a 20-minute flight from HAL's Helicopter Complex, Bangalore. It carried out low speed, low altitude checks on the systems on board. The crew reported that the performance of the helicopter and systems were satisfactory.

The third test flight of the LCH was successfully made on 23 May 2010; it fulfilled the desired parameters and allowed for further armed tests to proceed. The second prototype, fitted with weaponry, was unveiled at Aero India 2011 in February 2011. The second LCH prototype (TD-2) featured substantial weight reductions over the earlier TD-1. Ashok Nayak, chairman of HAL, stated that the project has exceeded human and payload requirements mandated by IAF for the development. Light Combat Helicopter TD-2 achieved its first flight on 28 June 2011. Two more prototypes are under construction to speed up its induction into the Indian Air Force in 2012.

On 1 July 2012, the LCH begin a series of trials near Chennai; amongst other elements, the LCH's air speed measurement system will be trialled and various component stresses gauged measured.[11] The third prototype of the LCH is about to be delivered and is expected to be different from the LCH-1 and LCH-2. The third prototype is said to be significantly lighter than its predecessors.

The LCH second prototype, TD-2 completed sea level trials conducted in late June to early July 2012. The trials covered helicopter performance, loads measurement, and handling qualities.

Design
Overview

LCH
The LCH is being designed to fit into an anti-infantry and anti-armour role and will be able to operate at high altitudes. It has a maximum weight of 5.5 tonnes, and has a service ceiling of 6,500 meters.[14] The LCH design features a narrow fuselage with stealth profiling, armour protection, and will be equipped to conduct day-and-night combat operations. According to reports, the LCH features a digital camouflage system. The LCH has a two-crew cockpit. The helicopter will be equipped with helmet-mounted targeting systems,electronic warfare systems and advanced weapons systems.

Dr. Prasad Sampath, general manager of HAL's Rotary Wing Research & Design Center, told the press during Aero India 2011 that the LCH was ‘probably the most agile design in the world because of its rotor'.[17] Like the Dhruv, it is powered by the HAL/Turbomeca Shakti turboshaft engine.

In 2006, HAL selected the M621 cannon incorporated in a Nexter THL 20 turret for the gun armament of the helicopter, operated by a helmet mounted sight.

Cockpit and avionics[edit]

LCH TD2
The LCH is to have a glass cockpit with multifunction displays, a target acquisition and designation system with FLIR, Laser rangefinder and laser designator. Weapons will be aimed with a helmet mounted sight and there will be an electronic warfare suite with radar warning receiver, laser warning receiver and a missile approach warning system. The two pilots in the LCH sit one behind the other, compared to side-by-side in the Dhruv. All the flight controls, the hydraulics and the fuel system had to be redesigned for the LCH.

The LCH's modern sensor suite, developed in cooperation with Israel, consists of a CCD Camera, forward-looking infrared imaging sensors and a laser range finder to facilitate target acquisition in all weather conditions, including at night. The EW suite has been procured from SAAB, South Africa.

The helicopter is to be fitted with a data link for network-centric operations facilitating the transfer of mission data to the other airborne platforms and ground stations operating in the network, facilitating force multiplication.

Roles
LCH is intended for use in air defence against slow moving aerial targets (e.g. aircraft and UAVs), Counter Surface Force Operation (CSFO), destruction of enemy air defence operations, escort to special heliborne operations (SHBO), Counter-insurgency operations (COIN), offensive Employment in Urban Warfare, support of combat search and rescue operations (SAR) operations, anti-tank role and scout duties. It will also be capable of high-altitude warfare (HAW) since its operational ceiling will be 6,000–6,500 metres (19,700–21,300 ft).
HAL Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) in digital camouflage at Aero India 2013, static display
 
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Here we go again!!!!!



And which Engine??

An American Lycoming IO-540 !!!

Lycoming O-540 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And Which fuel injection system??

American!!RSA HISTORY

Imported Glass cockpit....

Now rest of design is Swedish!!!

OK I know you're going to claim that Mushak is not SAAB Supporter,read this...



HAL HT 2 (1951 ) was more indigenous than this !!!

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Again your facts are full of shit... specially the cockpit n SM design.. anyhow... i can understand the frustration... :)

94 million $ deal with Iraq... another 20 for Saudis... a few for South Africans ... thts over 200 + million $ worth exports of SM alone.. cant compete with 7 helis to ecuador worth 5 million per unit n 1 or 2 units to hospitals on lease (fitted in europe) n other donations to countries like nepal,maldives etc.... :lol:
 
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In short a German design based on a MB..

Based on?Like how ?Even when external dimensions of both are different?It is a new helicopter that shares many design features that are derivative of the Kawasaki BK-117 and EC-145,but is different.


Ardiden 1H turbo-shaft engine ???

Got problem with that?A Co developed Turboshaft.

Damn ...:/ specially the "composites"...

Yeah,I know you don't know anything about composites..India exports Composites & Software for designing Composite Parts to Airbus,IAI,General Electric!

Again your facts are full of shit... specially the cockpit n SM design.. anyhow... i can understand the frustration... :)

94 million $ deal with Iraq... another 20 for Saudis... a few for South Africans ... thts over 200 million $ worth exports of SM alone.. :lol:

Prove it kid...What is Indigenous in Super Mushak??
.....Only 20 Super Mushaks has so far been exported.Rest are SAAB Supporters.....!!

cant compete with 7 helis to ecuador worth 5 million per unit n 1 or 2 units to hospitals on lease (fitted in europe) n other donations to countries like nepal,maldives etc.... :lol:

Cant compare a license produced/modified aircraft to our projects!!.....:omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:
 
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Based on?Like how ?Even when external dimensions of both are different?It is a new helicopter that shares many design features that are derivative of the Kawasaki BK-117 and EC-145,but is different.

lol... are you telling me you ripped off german helis without telling them... while they were "assisting" you like 29 other companies providing 90% parts? :lol:


Got problem with that?A Co developed Turboshaft.

lol... turbomeca,safran guys (websites) make it sound like Shakti= license produced french engine.. google... :D



Yeah,I know you don't know anything about composites..India exports Composites & Software for designing Composite Parts to Airbus,IAI,General Electric!


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lol... are you telling me you ripped off german helis without telling them... while they were "assisting" you like 29 other companies providing 90% parts? :lol:




lol... turbomeca,safran guys (websites) make it sound like Shakti= license produced french engine.. google... :D






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Leave alone Dhruv for while.

What about LCH?
 
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lol... are you telling me you ripped off german helis without telling them... while they were "assisting" you like 29 other companies providing 90% parts? :lol:

Keep making foolish remarks.....Ripped off....Thats when no dimension is the same.

Assisting countries...India is assisting Airbus & Boeing...

lol... turbomeca,safran guys (websites) make it sound like Shakti= license produced french engine.. google... :D

The details of co development are given in the picture itself.See for yourself.

Helicopters for the class of 5-8 tons, the Ardiden has a first variant called Ardiden 1H1 ("Shakti" in India) co-developed and co-produced with HAL for the Dhruv . It offers a power of 1,400 shp.

Turbomeca - Ardiden


Keep that ignorant :rofl:to yourself

Since the Tejas was meant to be a light aircraft, the designers had to use carbon composite materials which were still being developed. ADA then developed the software for designing and analysing composite materials, which it later marketed extensively -- Airbus was a customer, buying it for the A380 and other aircraft.

Infosys Technologies eventually took charge of marketing it.

How light combat aircraft Tejas was made - Rediff.com Business

Designed and fabricated with the DRDL's indigenous technology, the 'CCC (carbon-carbon composite) material'' can withstand temperatures up to 3000 degrees centigrade.

It will be used to manufacture brake discs for the light combat aircraft and, later, for the Airbus A-320 and the nozzles of Indian-built missiles.

Rediff On The NeT: Composite for critical technology developed in India

Welcome to Barrackpore Division of HAL

TATA Advanced Materials Ltd...

NAL has increased its R&D contracts from overseas companies; this year; it earned 50% of its budget through external (Indian and overseas) funding. The major international projects are with Boeing (relaminarisation of swept wings), INSA de Lyon (Institut National des Sciences Appliquées) of France (development of structural ceramics), Vigyan Inc. in the US (NASA Langely NTF control system), as well as Pratt and Whitney (High Mach number cooled turbine cascade testing). The sudden increase in overseas projects in some CSIR laboratories has offered NAL an opportunity to work in the highly competitive international market.

ATIP04.015: Aeronautics in India
 
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Keep making foolish remarks.....ripped off.....Assisting countries...India is assisting Airbus & Boeing...
:rofl: yeah by producing parts under license... damn several countries are helping poor USA.. :lol: Even Pak.. "lahahahah


The details are given in the picture itself.See for yourself.

ok so you produce the flight control n IDS for your german MBs? :lol:

Prove it kid...What is Indigenous in Super Mushak??
.....Only 20 Super Mushaks has so far been exported.Rest are SAAB Supporters.....!!

its called butthurt n being shameless... 20 sold to KSA in 2004,a few to SA,20 to Iraq... not to forget hundred or two basic versians to iran,oman.syria etc etc


Cant compare a license produced/modified aircraft to our projects!!.....:omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:


NEW DELHI: After 34 years of development, the foreign component in the "indigenous" Arjun main-battle tank still hovers around 50%. Similar is the case with the still under-development Tejas Light Combat Aircraft, which will even in the future fly on imported engines.
And now, it has come to light that another so-called major indigenous defence project, the twin-engine Dhruv Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH), whose design and development began way back in 1984, is still around 90% foreign.
Imported Parts,design etc Detailed:


2011:


"The Complete Inside Story OF "Indigenous" HAL Dhruv




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From the design to the provision of components and ammunition the involvement of foreign companies in the development of the ALH is considerable.At least 29 companies in nine countries across four continents have been involved with the development, licensed production or supply of components or munitions for the ALH. Ten of these companies are based in six EU Member States (Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Sweden and the UK). Other companies involved include a number based in Israel and the USA. Since its inception, the ALH has been a collaborative effort between the German company Messerschmitt-Bölkow Blohm (now Eurocopter Deutschland) and HAL:

"One thing should be clear. Though it is India's, if not Asia's, first de novodesigned helicopter, it is not ‘indigenous’ in the Indian sense of the term, but a collaborative effort of HAL and specialists from Messerschmitt-Bolkow-Blohm, who built the Eurocopter, which the Advanced Light Helicopter resembles."

It is not clear what configuration of armaments and components will be incorporated into the variants of any ALHs that might eventually be exported to Myanmar, but it is incumbent on governments to ensure that components produced or otherwise originating from within their jurisdiction are not incorporated into military helicopters transferred to Myanmar. The section below provides illustrative examples of key foreign involvement in the development of the ALH.

Core foreign components for the ALH include helicopter engines and rotor blades, as well as hydraulics, cockpit displays, vibration dampers and other "mission-critical parts". In addition, European firms have contributed to the offensive military capability of the attack helicopter version: variants of the ALH have incorporated rocket launchers of Belgian origin, and machine guns and missiles of French origin.

European and US firms have been involved in designing and developing the aircraft and its components. As a consequence — not least with major structural components like engines and rotors — it would be difficult, if not impossible, for HAL to source adequate alternative components from non-European or non-US suppliers. Similarly it may be difficult for HAL to manufacture such components itself without technical support from those firms.

Letters were faxed to each of the companies mentioned in this report, noting the reports that the Government of India was in negotiations with the Government of Myanmar to supply the ALH, and requesting information about their involvement in the development of the ALH through the manufacture and supply of components, technology and/or assistance. The letters also asked about the terms of the licences under which such transfers were made, including any restrictions applied to re-export.

Many of the companies’ responses summarised below specifically state that the contracts conform to their government’s requirements. Nevertheless, should such transfers of the ALH from India go ahead over the coming months, it is likely that military equipment, components and technology supplied from EU and US manufacturers incorporated into the ALH will end up in an embargoed destination. There is no suggestion that these companies will have broken current laws or regulations or deliberately violated the EU arms embargo on Myanmar. However, in almost all of these cases, the exports would not have been permitted from the country where the controlling company is based if they were supplied direct to Myanmar.

The following section illustrates the scale of involvement of non-Indian companies in the design.

The European Union

Belgium


Forges de Zeebrugge FZ

Variants of the ALH have incorporated rocket launchers produced by the Belgiam company, Forges de Zeebrugge FZ.For example, the photo below shows the FZ nameplate on the rocket launcher mounted on ALH on display at Farnborough International, UK on 14 August 2006.

Forges de Zeebrugge FZ confirmed that they have contracts with both HAL and the Indian Army, which have been approved by the Belgian authorities and are subject to end-use agreements. Confidentiality clauses contained within the contract prevented fuller disclosure of any details surrounding the nature of the deal.

France


Turbomeca

The French company Turbomeca (now part of the Safran Group) has undertaken both the direct export of engines from France to India but has also established licensed production and technology transfer arrangements with HAL to produce engines for the ALH. In February 2003, it was announced that Turbomeca and HAL had signed three major contracts. These included a contract for the supply of TM 333 2B2 engines for application on the HAL helicopter; and another contract for the repair and overhaul licence for the TM 333 2B2. The HAL website states that the ALH continues to use the "Turbomeca TM 333-2B2 Twin Turbo-shaft Engine 746 kw (1000 SHP)".

Turbomeca confirmed that it has three contracts with HAL, two of which cover the supply, repair, servicing and overhaul of the TM333-2B2 engines for the ALH. The company also stated that all its contracts were regulated by the appropriate French export licensing authorities. However in its response to our enquiries the French Government stated that the engines in question are not classified as war material by the French regulations and do not appear in the list of items subject to the Myanmar embargo. In our view, this interpretation is wrong because non-listed items in the EC Dual Use Regulation if incorporated into military items bound for embargoed destinations become licensable, that is subject to the embargo (for more on this see the section on EU export controls on re-exports over military equipmentbelow).
It would therefore appear that the French Government places no restrictions on the transfer of equipment fundamental to the operation of the ALH notwithstanding the fact that it is clearly also used as a military aircraft.

GIAT Industries (Nexter) and MBDA

In July 2006 defence news service Shepherd Rotorhub quoted Hindustan

Aeronautics' chairman Ashok Baweja describing a weaponisation programme was under way for the ALH. This was to include a 20mm gun from the French company GIAT and rockets from European missile manufacturer MBDA. In December 2006, GIAT (now renamed Nexter) announced that it had been awarded a contract by HAL for:

"the supply of 20 THL 20 turrets that will equip the Indian Armed Forces' Advanced Light Helicopter. The order covers the development phase of 20 turrets. The first deliveries will take place in 2008…."

In March 2007 Jane's Information Group reported that HAL signed a deal with MBDA in July 2006 for the supply of air-to-air Mistral missiles for armed versions of the ALH.

Nexter has confirmed that it does supply products to HAL for the ALH. This currently includes twenty ‘THL 20’ 20mm Helicopter turrets. The company also stated that all of its exports are regulated and approved by the appropriate French export licensing authorities and that any additional contracts to supply the ALH that were not stipulated in the original contract would require a further export licence.

Germany

Eurocopter Deutschland (formerly MBB) and now wholly owned by Eurocopter

Eurocopter has been involved (originally as MBB) with the development of the ALH since at least July 1984. In November 1995, it was reported that Eurocopter had submitted a proposal to the Indian Defence Ministry to "co-produce the ALH designed by HAL. It plans to set up production facilities in India to manufacture the ALH for both local and export markets."In 2006 both companies were advertising their mutual co-operation: Eurocopter noting that it was supplying rotor blades for the ALH, and HAL announcing that "Eurocopter, the helicopter manufacturer owned by EADS, has been cooperating with HAL for over four decades … India was the first nation with which Eurocopter signed a licence agreement for technology transfer." Amnesty International wrote to Eurocopter in March 2007 asking for clarification over its role in the development of the ALH. As of 25 June 2007, the company had not responded.

SITEC Aerospace

SITEC Aerospace manufactures a range of components and complete assemblies for flight/engine controls for various types of aircraft. According to company literature on display at Farnborough International 2006, SITEC provides components for the ALH.

SITEC Aerospace confirmed that they supply parts for the ALH, but that they do not export these directly to HAL, but supply them to another unnamed German manufacturer who subsequently incorporates these items into other systems for the ALH.

Italy

Elettronica Aster SpA

The Italian company Elettronica Aster SpA on its website describes HAL as a major customer. According to the "Company and Program Overview", Elettronica Aster SpA has produced and supplied the ALH with a brake system.

Amnesty International wrote to Elettronica Aster SpA in March 2007 to ask for clarifications as to its involvement in the development of the ALH. In its reply dated 15 March, the company had no comment on the specifics of its supply of components for the ALH, stating only that Elettronica Aster SpA’s "export activity is regulated by the rules called out in the Italian Law no.185/’90 (with amendment DDL 1927), establishing the regulation for weapons import/export/transit."

Sweden

Saab AB

Saab Avitronics, the South African joint venture company owned by Saab AB (Sweden) and Saab Grintek (South Africa, itself part owned by Saab AB), has been awarded a multi-million dollar export contract from HAL for the supply of self-protection equipment for installation on the ALH for the Indian Armed Forces.

Amnesty International wrote to Saab AB on 1 June 2007 asking for clarification over its involvement with the ALH. Saab AB replied saying: "All export approvals from the concerned authorities are in place. The export licences are supported by an end-user certificate."

The United Kingdom


APPH Precision Hydraulics

At the 2004 Farnborough arms fair, the UK company APPH Precision Hydraulics Ltd displayed its Hydraulic Package as the following:

"HAL Advanced Light Helicopter Hydraulic Package designed and manufactured by APPH Ltd"

Amnesty International wrote to in March 2007 to ask for clarifications as its involvement in the development of the ALH. As of 25 June 2007, the company had not responded.

FPT Industries Ltd

In 1993 it was reported that FPT Industries Ltd had been awarded a contract to supply floatation equipment for the ALH under development by HAL. FTP Industries is part of GKN Aerospace Services Ltd. In 1997, it was reported that FPT Industries’ self-sealing fuel tank systems were being used in the ALH. In 2007, the FPT Industries website stated that: "FPT equipment is fitted to a range of helicopters including ALH".

In 1997, the then GKN Westland Aerospace Ltd (renamed GKN Aerospace Services Ltd in 2001) was awarded a contract to supply the internal gearbox BR715 for HAL’s ALH.

GKN Aerospace Services Ltd confirmed that they have supplied fuel tanks, floatation equipment and related gaskets and seals for the ALH, but that these are subject to end-use certificates stipulating that they would not be re-exported. The company stated that future supplies for the ALH would be for components and kits for fuel tanks that would be assembled locally in India, but would again be subject to similar end-use undertakings. However, while the UK Government normally requires the presentation of end-use documentation as part of the licensing process, it does not as a rule then include explicit end-use restrictions as a conditionon the export licence. If this is the case in this instance, what force those end-use undertakings have is unclear.

Other third-country involvement in the ALH:

The United States

It should be noted that the US embargo on Myanmar does not specifically mention indirect supplies, nor does it place controls on civilian components that are incorporated into military systems. However, indirect supplies of US military components or other controlled items are subject to re-export controls under the US International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) system which specifically states that re-export of US-controlled content can only take place with the express permission of the US Government. Section 123.9 "Country of ultimate destination" provides that:

"(a) The country designated as the country of ultimate destination on an application for an export licence, or on a shipper's export declaration where an exemption is claimed under this subchapter, must be the country of ultimate end-use. The written approval of the Department of State must be obtained before reselling, diverting, transferring, transshipping, or disposing of a defense article in any country other than the country of ultimate destination as stated on the export licence, or on the shipper's export declaration in cases where an exemption is claimed under this subchapter. Exporters must ascertain the specific end-use and end-user prior to submitting an application to the Office of Munitions Control or claiming an exemption under this subchapter. End-use must be confirmed and should not be assumed."

However, it is not clear whether components supplied by US companies for the ALH have been specifically designed or adapted for military use. If not, they may fall outside this specification.

Aitech Systems Ltd

In September 2005, it was reported that Aitech Systems Ltd, a US company, had announced it had "received the first production order from the Lahav Division of Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) for Display & Mission Computers" for inclusion in the glass cockpit of the ALH. The Lahav Division of IAI is under contract to HAL to develop and provide the avionics system for the HAL.
Deliveries for the first production of Display and Mission Computers were due to be completed by May 2006:

"Aitech will build 400 Display & Mission Computers for the ALH program, to be delivered over the next several years. In addition, Aitech is under contract to IAI to provide the next generation of Display & Mission Computer."

Amnesty International wrote to the company in March 2007 asking for clarifications over its involvement with the ALH, but has yet to receive a reply (as of 25 June 2007).

Lord Corporation

In January 2004, it was reported that Lord Corporation had announced that it had been "awarded the first production contract for its active vibration control system" for the ALH. Lord Corporation had been supplying other parts (such as elastomeric bearings) for the main tail rotor and parts for various "isolators", which together formed part of an anti-resonance isolator system aimed at reducing vibrations in the aircraft." The report also stated that 'Lord would supply the vibration dampers for these aircraft with user approvals.'"



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You are posting that link in this thread for the 5 th time...:omghaha:

ok so you produce the flight control n IDS for your german MBs?

IDS & FCS are Indian,go check it out.

its called butthurt n being shameless... 20 sold to KSA in 2004,a few to SA,20 to Iraq... not to forget hundred or two basic versians to iran,oman.syria etc etc

Really?20 Super Mushaks sold to Saudi,20 with your AF,Iraq ordered them on january 2014.And the rest are Mushaks,ie unmodified SAAB Supporters.

And whats Indigenous in Mushak or Super Mushak??
 
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Turbomeca

The French company Turbomeca (now part of the Safran Group) has undertaken both the direct export of engines from France to India but has also established licensed production and technology transfer arrangements with HAL to produce engines for the ALH. In February 2003, it was announced that Turbomeca and HAL had signed three major contracts. These included a contract for the supply of TM 333 2B2 engines for application on the HAL helicopter; and another contract for the repair and overhaul licence for the TM 333 2B2. The HAL website states that the ALH continues to use the "Turbomeca TM 333-2B2 Twin Turbo-shaft Engine 746 kw (1000 SHP)".

Replaced by Co developed Shakthi already.


Italy
Elettronica Aster SpA

The Italian company Elettronica Aster SpA on its website describes HAL as a major customer. According to the "Company and Program Overview", Elettronica Aster SpA has produced and supplied the ALH with a brake system.

Wrong,the brake system of Dhruv is developed inhouse and is NOT from Electronicca.

Sweden
Saab AB

Saab Avitronics, the South African joint venture company owned by Saab AB (Sweden) and Saab Grintek (South Africa, itself part owned by Saab AB), has been awarded a multi-million dollar export contract from HAL for the supply of self-protection equipment for installation on the ALH for the Indian Armed Forces.

Amnesty International wrote to Saab AB on 1 June 2007 asking for clarification over its involvement with the ALH. Saab AB replied saying: "All export approvals from the concerned authorities are in place. The export licences are supported by an end-user certificate."

SAAB provides the MAWS SENSORS which is incorporated with the Indian ECCM system. the MAWS sensors has been replaced by the MK II derivative of the Indian ECCM system further, the MAWS system will NOT be a part of the civilian Dhruv
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APPH Precision Hydraulics

At the 2004 Farnborough arms fair, the UK company APPH Precision Hydraulics Ltd displayed its Hydraulic Package as the following:

"HAL Advanced Light Helicopter Hydraulic Package designed and manufactured by APPH Ltd"

Amnesty International wrote to in March 2007 to ask for clarifications as its involvement in the development of the ALH. As of 25 June 2007, the company had not responded.

WRONG, Dhruv does not derives its hydraulics from APPH, but will DO THE SAME IN the upcoming LCH, again the same joint developement of a hydrayulic component was signed by HAL and APPH (appeared in HAL newsletter) for LCH and not the ALH.

FPT Industries Ltd

GKN Aerospace Services Ltd confirmed that they have supplied fuel tanks, floatation equipment and related gaskets and seals for the ALH, but that these are subject to end-use certificates stipulating that they would not be re-exported.

Import of the same has been completely terminated decade ago and we use inhouse made composites for the same.

Aitech Systems Ltd

In September 2005, it was reported that Aitech Systems Ltd, a US company, had announced it had "received the first production order from the Lahav Division of Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) for Display & Mission Computers" for inclusion in the glass cockpit of the ALH. The Lahav Division of IAI is under contract to HAL to develop and provide the avionics system for the HAL.
Deliveries for the first production of Display and Mission Computers were due to be completed by May 2006:

"Aitech will build 400 Display & Mission Computers for the ALH program, to be delivered over the next several years. In addition, Aitech is under contract to IAI to provide the next generation of Display & Mission Computer."

Amnesty International wrote to the company in March 2007 asking for clarifications over its involvement with the ALH, but has yet to receive a reply (as of 25 June 2007).

Altech system may have intially delivered the MFD's the ELbit MFD's but they are already being replaced by the HAL-SAMTEL made MFD's which will be superior to the ones delivered previously, Inpite of this Israel's ELop is in a JV with BEL that makes the electro-optical targetting instrumentation of Dhruv.

The Elbit MFDs has been (from this year) replaced by HAL SAMTEL (a local design, with locally made LCDs) which are to be superior to the Sextant MFD66s (The displays will be able to show both analog and digitally processed data simultaneously, as compared to only the latter on the MFD66).

Lord Corporation

In January 2004, it was reported that Lord Corporation had announced that it had been "awarded the first production contract for its active vibration control system" for the ALH. Lord Corporation had been supplying other parts (such as elastomeric bearings) for the main tail rotor and parts for various "isolators", which together formed part of an anti-resonance isolator system aimed at reducing vibrations in the aircraft." The report also stated that 'Lord would supply the vibration dampers for these aircraft with user approvals.'"

Again this component has been developed inhouse for Dhruv and has replaced the old one.
 
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You are posting that link in this thread for the 5 th time...:omghaha:



IDS & FCS are Indian,go check it out.

:rofl: only indian systems.. :laugh:
Really?20 Super Mushaks sold to Saudi,20 with your AF,Iraq ordered them on january 2014.And the rest are Mushaks,ie unmodified SAAB Supporters.

lol... do you know the worth of those contracts kiddo.. :lol:


And whats Indigenous in Mushak or Super Mushak??

there is already a thread runin abt SM check it out kiddo.. failed attempt at trollin..:dirol:

Replaced by Co developed Shakthi already.




Wrong,the brake system of Dhruv is developed inhouse and is NOT from Electronicca.



SAAB provides the MAWS SENSORS which is incorporated with the Indian ECCM system. the MAWS sensors has been replaced by the MK II derivative of the Indian ECCM system further, the MAWS system will NOT be a part of the civilian Dhruv
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WRONG, Dhruv does not derives its hydraulics from APPH, but will DO THE SAME IN the upcoming LCH, again the same joint developement of a hydrayulic component was signed by HAL and APPH (appeared in HAL newsletter) for LCH and not the ALH.



Import of the same has been completely terminated decade ago and we use inhouse made composites for the same.



Altech system may have intially delivered the MFD's the ELbit MFD's but they are already being replaced by the HAL-SAMTEL made MFD's which will be superior to the ones delivered previously, Inpite of this Israel's ELop is in a JV with BEL that makes the electro-optical targetting instrumentation of Dhruv.

The Elbit MFDs has been (from this year) replaced by HAL SAMTEL (a local design, with locally made LCDs) which are to be superior to the Sextant MFD66s (The displays will be able to show both analog and digitally processed data simultaneously, as compared to only the latter on the MFD66).



Again this component has been developed inhouse for Dhruv and has replaced the old one.

links for your claims.......
 
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:rofl: only indian systems.. :laugh:


lol... do you know the worth of those contracts kiddo.. :lol:




there is already a thread runin abt SM check it out kiddo.. failed attempt at trollin..:dirol:



links for your claims.......
Checked it nothing substantial that SM is manufactured deeply in PAC its just a license assembled saab.
Again a link for every nut and bolt produced cannot be provided.ALH has a healthy local content unlike license assembling proven aircraft and saying them indigenous design.The LUH is going to take the local content to a very high level as local content in LRUs,and engine are going to increase ,what about the mukshaks engine.
 
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:rofl: only indian systems.. :laugh:

AFCS,IDS etc are Indian.

lol... do you know the worth of those contracts kiddo.. :lol:

Do not try to divert the topic.20 Modified SAAB Safaris sold to Saudi arabia & 5 to Oman.Thats it.

there is already a thread runin abt SM check it out kiddo.. failed attempt at trollin..:dirol:

So what?Prove your claim.SM has much more indigenous content than Dhruv.

links for your claims.......

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited

domain-b.com : HAL to jointly develop FCAS for light combat helicopter with APPH, UK

http://sd-2.archive-host.com/membres/up/99425915118889790/chap3.pdf

http://www.*****-rakshak.com/NAVY/Aviation/Aircraft/123-HAL-Dhruv.html

http://www.avia-it.com/act/areariservata/Segnalazione_articoli_2012/Star_profile.pdf

Here are a few more Indian developed components..

SV 2000 radar
dhruv2.jpg


Mihir Sonar
 
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lol... are you telling me you ripped off german helis without telling them... while they were "assisting" you like 29 other companies providing 90% parts? :lol:




lol... turbomeca,safran guys (websites) make it sound like Shakti= license produced french engine.. google... :D






:rofl:
what about LCH and LUH ?
 
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I love it when DESERT FIGHTER'S @$$ burns on our nation's achievements. Can't even make a 3100 ton frigate on their own. Useless.

That's not fair really. Pakistan can't be compared to countries like India. Pakistan simply doesn't have the industrial base or research culture to support projects like the Dhruv, etc. I mean India produces 11 times more research papers than Pakistan. That's almost twice as many even in per capita terms.

For their capabilities, they have achieved quite a bit.
 
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