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India to provide helicopters to Afghanistan soon

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Not even that, he has proper references to back his point. Some of which I've never seen before.:D

That desert guy seems embarrased by him very well.It becomes whenever that desert guy opens his mouth ,foolish statements would flow like a stream.
 
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No,Naya Daur was a Willys Jeep.Skopak was related to Skoda trekka.

Any Indigenously developed car engine ?



HAL's developed the Dhruv in India - It was developed by a team of 250 Indian designers working with 15-30 German designers who were involved in consultancy.
There are foreign components - But all other helicopter projects use these.

Here are a few examples -

AVCS - Dhruv uses a lord's AVCS,So do Eurocopter EC130T2,AgustaWestland AW139

Need I provide more examples ?




Turbomeca website ?

Kindly note the name 'Ardiden 1H1'



HAL ?



Designed In India,Wind-tunnel tests ,flight tests,Ground Tests-Vibration analysis,Fatigue and Endurance Tests,test of components like IDS,Gearbox all done in India..

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So you want us to believe lala DRDO fanboy website over western professionals and inventors of the helicopter? O boy you are really craving your ballz to get busted by me.
I busted Indians myth about Indigenous Dhruv long time before you were born. And i will be happy to shut your lying production factory mouth aswell.
How "Indigenous" is Dhruv/ALH?
 
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So you want us to believe lala DRDO fanboy website

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For your information,DRDO didn't develop the chopper,HAL did..Shows what kind of an idiot you are

over western professionals and inventors of the helicopter?


Professionals? LMAO..
Real inventors ? How did a helicopter designed by a team of 250 Indian designers with help of 15 German designers ,In India with support of HALs technical team & NALs research infrastructure become foreign ?

Most of your claims are already busted.
 
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@Myth_buster_1

1.Design is german? It was designed in India,in collaboration with MBB and tested (both ground tested & flight testing ) in India itself

2.Engine:



3.Gearbox

Even components that were originally outsourced to foreign firms,like the Main Gear box( that had been outsourced to German company ZF ) , have significant Indian content...



4.Self-Defense system - Indian developed Multi Sensor Warning System used in Dhruv

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5.fuel tanks, floatation equipment and related gaskets and seals for the ALH are now manufactured locally (article itself states it )

6.MFDs are now manufactured Indigenously.And Israeli Avionics are not a part of every Dhruv,Customer can chose between Indian & Israeli Avionics.This is a fact most of us are well aware of.

Aero India 2003 - Part 6

7.The Guns & Rocket Launcher are not a part of Dhruv,they are for Rudra helicopter.
I guess S 70 Battlehawk is not American,as it uses the same THL 20 gun..Agusta A129 /TAI T-129 is not Indigenous because it uses American M197 Gatling gun..

And these guys forgot about Indigenous ATGM Helina used on Rudra?-Hypocrisy again..


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8.AVCS is not present in all Dhruvs,it is a recent addition.

Now The Article overlooks many Indian Achievements...

1.The Development ,Indigenous Testing & establishment of production facilities for ALH


2.Shakthi Engine Co development


3. Integrated Dynamic System
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4.Flight Control System


5.ARIS
7.KITE ESM (Electronic Support Measures) system

pack of lies. Nothing but Indians patting themselves in the back and this time even DRDO have jumped in the fanboys crowd.
Next time you want to prove something come back with a non indian sources.
 
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pack of lies. Nothing but Indians patting themselves in the back and this time even DRDO have jumped in the fanboys crowd.
Next time you want to prove something come back with a non indian sources.

Usual BS.How can non Indian sources be more credible,when its the Indians who have developed this chopper ?

I don't expect much from a guy who makes claim like 'India was trying to export armed Dhruv to Burma back in 2007' when Armed Dhruv only did make its first flight in 2007.

Didn't you see I have quoted from Turbomeca website?
-Now how many choppers have a jointly developed engine ?

For its first application, the Dhruv, a first engine variant christened the Ardiden 1H1 (or "Shakti" in India), offering a power of 1,400 shp, is jointly developed and producted with HAL.

Turbomeca - Ardiden
 
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For your information,DRDO didn't develop the chopper,HAL did..Shows what kind of an idiot you are

Do you think i really give a flying F*** who which ever Indian department is responsible for Dhruve production? The point is Dhruv is a European development and pathological deluded like you love to believe in myths and im here to bust your myth.



Professionals? LMAO..
Real inventors ? How did a helicopter designed by a team of 150 Indian designers with help of 15 German designers ,In India with support of HALs technical team & NALs research infrastructure become foreign ?

Most of your claims are already busted.
15 german designers designed the chopper while 150 apes designers were busy eating banana. Come with something credible next time.
 
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Do you think i really give a flying F*** who which ever Indian department is responsible for Dhruve production? The point is Dhruv is a European development and pathological deluded like you love to believe in myths and im here to bust your myth.15 german designers designed the chopper while 150 apes designers were busy eating banana. Come with something credible next time.


Come back with valid points,you effing troll...There is simply no point in discussing with a troll who opens BS threads like these Indian Arihant a rip off Russian sub? | Page 15 :omghaha:

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Come back with valid points,you effing troll...There is simply no point in discussing with a troll who opens BS threads like these Indian Arihant a rip off Russian sub? | Page 15 :omghaha:


This guy put up a lot of garbage back in the day.

He basically has a chip on his shoulder. There isnt an Indian effort to anything. :lol:

I remember the guy used to say LCH was a copy of this Russia helo back then. No source or anything.

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Because of this old mock up

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Then it came out :rofl:

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Usual BS.How can non Indian sources be more credible,when its the Indians who have developed this chopper ?
People who believe in myth have hard time believe in truth and you are just a perfect example of that case.

I don't expect much from a guy who makes claim like 'India was trying to export armed Dhruv to Burma back in 2007' when Armed Dhruv only did make its first flight in 2007.
First learn the difference between a claim and a fact then come back and talk. Every International and Indian community has reported Indian proposal to sell armed dhruv to mynmar and I have provided enough evidence to prove this claim. THeir are many military projects which did not even get in production or operational clearance and yet orders get placed. I am not here to spoon feed you on everything so spend some time learning.

Didn't you see I have quoted from Turbomeca website?
-Now how many choppers have a jointly developed engine ?
OH waooo.. You quoted Turbomeca website what a life time achievement you just had kid. Now you want a cookie?

Now read and LEARN.

Turbomeca confirms its strong link with India

Bangalore, 9 February 2005

Turbomeca, world leader in helicopter engines, has confirmed its strong link with India, following the signing of three major contracts concerning the Dhruv. This is the result of a longstanding and successful relationship between Hindustan Aeronautic Limited (HAL) and Turbomeca which began back in 1961, when the Turbomeca Artouste engine was first licensed to power the Indian Armed Forces’ Chetak (Alouette) and Cheetah (Lama) fleets. In February 2003, Turbomeca and HAL signed three major contracts One contract covers the co-development and co-production of Ardiden 1H (Indian name: Shakti) engines: a large number of Ardiden 1H / Shakti engines are expected to be produced. 11 % of the development will be carried by HAL out in India. A first batch of engines will be produced at Turbomeca, France, and progressively most part of the production will be transferred to India. As a consequence of this close cooperation between HAL and Turbomeca, Indian engineers are now learning all the Shakti production know-how at the site in Bordes, France, Turbomeca's headquarters. The first rotation is scheduled for September 2005, and the EASA certification is scheduled for December 2006. The second contract covers the supply of TM 333 2B2 engines, for application on the HAL Dhruv helicopter, and the third contract the repair and overhaul license for the TM 333 2B2. The hundredth TM 333 2B2, destined to the Dhruv of HAL was delivered in August 2004. The Dhruv helicopters will be used by the Indian Army Aviation, Air Force, Navy and Coast Guards, depending on the missions to be carried out. The Dhruv is also considered by civilian customers. Cheetal, Cheetah re-engined with TM 333 2M2 The Cheetal (former Cheetah, equivalent to the Lama, manufactured by HAL), has been re-engined with the TM 333 2M2. The first flight was completed the 1st February 2003 in Bangalore. The replacement of the Artouste engine with a Turbomeca TM 333 2M2 engine improved considerably the light helicopter's performance at altitude and increase its pay load capacity above 5,000 meters. In-flight qualification tests have been completed and were successful. Some Cheetah could be re-engined in 2005. Chetan, Chetak re-engined with TM 333 2M2 The Chetan (former Chetak, equivalent to the Alouette III, manufactured by HAL), has been re-engined with the TM 333 2M2. The first flight was completed the 1st February 2005 in Bangalore. The replacement of the Artouste III B engine with a Turbomeca TM 333 2M2 engine decreased considerably the light helicopter's fuel consumption, and improved its useful load. World records November 2004 was a special month in the history of Indian helicopter industry. On 2nd November, the Dhruv, powered by the TM 333 2B2, soared to 25000 ft (7 520m) above mean sea level. This is the record for highest altitude flown by a middle weight class helicopter. The Cheetal, equipped with TM 333 2M2, set the world record for a landing at highest altitude by a light weight helicopter, landing at a height of 23220 ft (7070m) above mean sea level. Both the records were rendered more impressive due to the fact that the density altitude, a major factor governing the altitude at which a helicopter can fly, was significantly higher, at 27000 ft (8 200m) for the Dhruv, and 25150 ft (7670m) for the Cheetal. The records were set in terms of density altitude, too. *** Turbomeca is the leading helicopter engine manufacturer, and has produced 50 000 turbines based on its own designs since the company was founded. With more than 2 000 customers in over 140 countries, Turbomeca provides a proximity service thanks to its 14 sites, 3 subsidiaries, 23 TurboSupport Centers, 32 repair centers and 90 Field representatives and Field mechanics. The Head Office is based in Bordes, Pyrénées-Atlantiques (south-west France). Turbomeca is part of the Snecma Group, specialists in aerospace propulsion and equipment. Microturbo, a subsidiary of Turbomeca, is the European leader in turbojet engines for missiles, drones and auxiliary power units.

Come back with valid points,you effing troll...There is simply no point in discussing with a troll who opens BS threads like these Indian Arihant a rip off Russian sub? | Page 15 :omghaha:

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My 6 year old post makes more sense then what you wright today. so bug off.
 
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PFirst learn the difference between a claim and a fact then come back and talk. Every International and Indian community has reported Indian proposal to sell armed dhruv to mynmar and I have provided enough evidence to prove this claim.

Yes,even before It was developed.now go troll else where.

In February 2003, Turbomeca and HAL signed three major contracts One contract covers the co-development and co-production of Ardiden 1H (Indian name: Shakti) engines: a large number of Ardiden 1H / Shakti engines are expected to be produced.

What I said,right here.

My 6 year old post makes more sense then what you wright today. so bug off.

Yeah right..India hasn't developed SONARs & N-Reactors before...:omghaha:
 
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This guy put up a lot of garbage back in the day.

He basically has a chip on his shoulder. There isnt an Indian effort to anything. :lol:

I remember the guy used to say LCH was a copy of this Russia helo back then. No source or anything.


Because of this old mock up


Then it came out :rofl:

Look what we have here. another bharatraksaw factory produced pathological liar. talking of dhruv the only effort Indians make is the effort to hide western involvement in development so indian fanboys egos can be satisfied when pack of lies are presented to you lot.
 
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Look what we have here. another bharatraksaw factory produced pathological liar. talking of dhruv the only effort Indians make is the effort to hide western involvement in development so indian fanboys egos can be satisfied when pack of lies are presented to you lot.

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Yeah everything is a lie.....:omghaha:
 
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Look what we have here. another bharatraksaw factory produced pathological liar. talking of dhruv the only effort Indians make is the effort to hide western involvement in development so indian fanboys egos can be satisfied when pack of lies are presented to you lot.


Dude, your sources of Arjun being so and so percentage of indigenous content, or Dhruv having so and so indigenous content are coming from Indian sources. You think your doing some myth busting, or being clever with this, fact is Indians are giving you most of your sources. It's coming straight out of DRDO reps a lot of times. :rofl: Indians have been overly transparent about this. :lol: More so than most other countries, especially your!
 
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