India to construct a new conventional aircraft carrier INS Vishal with with assistance from the U.S

[Ind4Ever]

For developing a nuke reactor for INS vishal? I can't be sure, but what I can say with certainity is that it won't take as long as designing and constructing INS Vishal itself.

Assuming that our scientists have a good knowhow of designing a miniature reactor of the kind fitted on INS Arihant, it should be well within their ability to design and make a large reactor for an aircraft carrier within the next 5-10 years.

(I don't know for sure how well Indian scientists have mastered reactor design by working on Arihant, or how much Russians helped.)

The bottom line is that it is easier to design a reactor for an A/C than for a sub.

It is expected to be 4 engine with each producing 25-30 kw of power . Our Arihant 3 will have better power propulsion with more than 125KW of nuclear energy . So we can use.

Saying that. Since INS Vishal must have fast tracked as soon as possible with all available resources we should had changed our mind to fit with Non proliferation way to partner USA. With latest Aircraft Carrier technology .

D onto worry Twin AC with 80000-100000 are already planed after the launching of INS Vishal . It will be nuclear with matured indigenous nuclear propulsion system . It's going to be a Beast. But don't expect it before 2030-2034

Navy is the key for India's defence. India has vast Maritime interests to protect from Malacca straits to Horn of Africa.

Having a Marine corps is the need of the hour because of Chinese rise.

WE already have 4 , 40,000 T Landing Craft on orders with tri camand at Andaman. It's more b than enough to invade Chinese SCS islands at will . More over our fleet is yet to 50-100 new vessels by 2020-2022 . It's going to be a Beast by 2020 . with new subs and nuclear power subs

 

[Srinivas]

It is expected to be 4 engine with each producing 25-30 kw of power . Our Arihant 3 will have better power propulsion with more than 125KW of nuclear energy . So we can use.

Saying that. Since INS Vishal must have fast tracked as soon as possible with all available resources we should had changed our mind to fit with Non proliferation way to partner USA. With latest Aircraft Carrier technology .

D onto worry Twin AC with 80000-100000 are already planed after the launching of INS Vishal . It will be nuclear with matured indigenous nuclear propulsion system . It's going to be a Beast. But don't expect it before 2030-2034



WE already have 4 , 40,000 T Landing Craft on orders with tri camand at Andaman. It's more b than enough to invade Chinese SCS islands at will . More over our fleet is yet to 50-100 new vessels by 2020-2022 . It's going to be a Beast by 2020 . with new subs and nuclear power subs

where are the soldiers then?

what for these LPDs, tanks, naval helicopters and all?

India will raise a Marine force.

 

[Ind4Ever]

where are the soldiers then?

what for these LPDs, tanks, naval helicopters and all?

India will raise a Marine force.

WE already have ! But not like Of USA. With large airborne fleets and stuff. It's more expensive than we think. With our asserts we can help SCS countries . That's what we needed . USA works like global police so their capability and capacity is huge .

 

[Srinivas]

WE already have ! But not like Of USA. With large airborne fleets and stuff. It's more expensive than we think. With our asserts we can help SCS countries . That's what we needed . USA works like global police so their capability and capacity is huge .

Post the cost details and all then and also explain in detail, why raising soldiers is expensive but buying stuff like LPDs and all with out man power is ok

Where did SCS come from?

Why comparison with USA?

Finally what is the problem if IN which is a big and fastest developing and rising wing needs Marine corps and Navy SEALs like commandos?

The need is there I think it is time to raise the Marine corps.

Ancient India has this kind of force as well

An Indian Marine Corps ? - Centre for Land Warfare Studies (CLAWS)

I have no issue if you are convinced or not. Nor I want to play an opinion maker and try to leverage a favourable opinion.

 

[Ind4Ever]

Where did SCS come from?

Why comparison with USA?

Finally what is the problem if IN which is a big and fastest developing and rising wing needs Marine corps and Navy SEALs like commandos?

The need is there I think it is time to raise the Marine corps.

Ancient India has this kind of force as well

An Indian Marine Corps ? - Centre for Land Warfare Studies (CLAWS)

I have no issue if you are convinced or not. Nor I want to play an opinion maker and try to leverage an favourable opinion.

Dude we already have these James Bond shit with our MARCOS and LPDS. We can place our troops tru wat we have but it's limited . I don't think we need to spend our money to match marine corps of USA which has maintained for years. don't worry we are already into this 4 LPDs with US2I of Japanese must send clear signal of of motives.

 

[Srinivas]

Dude we already have these James Bond shit with our MARCOS and LPDS. We can place our troops tru wat we have but it's limited . I don't think we need to spend our money to match marine corps of USA which has maintained for years. don't worry we are already into this 4 LPDs with US2I of Japanese must send clear signal of of motives.

You are agreeing that the infrastructure and man power is there. Making it a unit called marine corps is a good idea. It is an organizational flexibility to have a special unit for special purpose.

 

[sancho]

It is for those islands that we have so many amphibious batallions and now a brigade, manned by the Indian army and transported by the Indian navy.

The USMC does not exist to protect little islands, they exist for amphibious assault of enemy shores. They exist as expeditionary forces to invade distant lands. As of now, India has no such requirement. And before we have such ambitions, we have a lot of ground to cover, a lot of other capabilities to develop. An Indian marine corps is nowhere on the radar for our defence planners.

Can't agree more on the limited use of marine core and amphibous capabilities. People want to defend A&N with so many troops and forgot that the only credible force that would pose a thread is 1000s of Km far away and it's not like they can suprise us with a large invasion fleet popping up in the Bay of Bengal, without us noticing it at least days ago. Not to mention that the first line of defence then would not be marines, but exactly the carriers that's the topic of the thread, which brings me back to the nuclear propulsion, because the same argument that you stated against the marines could be used for the nuclear propulsion too. The main idea behind a nuclear carrier is, to be independent of fuel supply, when you send the carrier for long endurance missions to far distances. That's why USN needs nuclear carriers, especially in the size of their super carriers, but India has no such requirements!
We neither plan to use our carriers frequently in the South Chinese Sea, the Pacific or Atlantic, our playing field is the IOR, that's where we have national interests and that's where we can efficiently support carrier groups so far. The IAC 2 obviously should be part of our deterrence against China and in case of war, we must be able to send it to the east, but just for that situation you don't need a nuclear propelled aircraft carrier. Not to forget, that the most limiting factor of the CBG is not the carrier, but it's support vessels. Even if the carrier has a nuclear propuslion, it is dependent on the speed, endurance and supportability of the destroyer, frigates and subs. Which shows the difference to an SSBN that is suppose to operate at distance, for a long time, without being dependent on much external support and that's where a nuclear propuslsion makes more sense.

 

[axisofevil]

Its a regional newspaper man..

Isn't it one of the oldest newspapers in India?

 

[Skull and Bones]

Sir,
If India can use nuke power subs can't it make nuke powered carriers too?
Because the basic propulsion will remain same .

Yes, they can. The main constraint will be to increase the power of the reactor keeping the size limitations. US assistance will be much required in that field.

 

[Koovie]

I think it will be nuke powered.

To confront china India should make the islands as military bases and fortresses.

I think that idea has been out of fashion since WW2

WE already have 4 , 40,000 T Landing Craft on orders with tri camand at Andaman. It's more b than enough to invade Chinese SCS islands at will . More over our fleet is yet to 50-100 new vessels by 2020-2022 . It's going to be a Beast by 2020 . with new subs and nuclear power subs

We are decades away from being capable of executing such an op

 

[topgun047]

Yes, what is the point of building a nuclear carrier when we don't have military bases in SCS, Pacific or Atlantic.
Vietnam, Philippines, Fiji, Maurtius,Oman,Bahrain, Seychelles et al should be groomed for the same.

First secure these using diplomatic strength then think about building nuclear carriers.

 

[Ind4Ever]

You are agreeing that the infrastructure and man power is there. Making it a unit called marine corps is a good idea. It is an organizational flexibility to have a special unit for special purpose.

If we have separate separate Marine Corps like Airforce Navy Army it will be great . But do we have funds ? We already yet to fulfill our needs

 

[Ind4Ever]

Have anyone noticed :

That New Delhi will purchase carrier-based fighters from Washington as well.


We'll it must be F35 lighting II ...

 

[gslv mk3]

Isn't it one of the oldest newspapers in India?

Yup..