India successfully tests Nirbhay cruise missile

[MilSpec]

No doubt what you have said is true. But supersonic doesn't go over 400 Km range is it and there is no variation in it's altitude weather it is at Hi-Hi-Hi, or Hi-Lo-Hi it moves at a predetermined height like 100-50-100 meters or 100-100-100 meters not like 100-80-50-120-30 meters

Terrain hugging means different in super sonic and sub sonic.

And as the distance increases chances of introduction of INS drift errors began to show right ? You need to keep missile on Path or if you want to change path, that's where GPS signalling chips in.

Without Navigation maps, if a mountain comes in b/w missile flight path and missile flying at say 100 meters, It wouldn't have a clue to avoid that obstacle That's where Tercom comes in, A map mated to digital altimeter to know exactly at which places to fly at low height and at which places to fly at higher height and that's the concept of Tercom. You could not achieve dynamic altitude variations without TERCOM and that's the concept of Sub sonic missile, fly low, avoid obstacles in path reach target. Without Navigation maps mated with digital altimeter how could Cruise missile avoid obstacles ?

DSMAC is concept, it depends upon the user how he wants to implement. Weather to use co-relator or go with an active seeker or IIR seeker. There are no two opinions on this one




"The missile maintained an accuracy better than 10 meters throughout it's path and covered a
distance of more than 1000 km"

Can you explain to me what does this line mean from DRDO press release ?

Dear,

I have to sleep now, but I will reply tomorrow.

thanks

 

[RKO]

A supersonic dash at the terminal stage has it's own advantage.

ofcourse it has! Bt nirbhay is not meant for it..adding another stage at terminal phase may help!

 

[shaheenmissile]

A supersonic dash at the terminal stage has it's own advantage.

yes but that will need the missile to carry an extra rocket motor all the way. Which is resource intensive.

With only using an altimeter how can a missile become terrain hugging???? Their should be a correlator comparing terrain contour with Altitude measured.. May be any other tech other than TERCOM.. Anyway Brahmos is terrain hugging according to Dr.Sivathanu Pillai..

Three services to have BrahMos missiles - The Hindu

MUMBAI: While the Navy has started inducting multi-role, supersonic cruise missile, BrahMos, in a big way, the Army and the Air Force are poised to follow suit to be able to `destabilise' critical targets with pinpoint accuracy.

"Army is very keen to have the missile and we are working on the `land to land' version of it for the Army," said Dr. A. Sivathanu Pillai, chief controller of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO).

Dr. Pillai is also the managing director of BrahMos Aerospace, an Indo-Russian joint venture that designed and developed the world's only supersonic cruise missile and is now engaged in its production and marketing. He was here to ceremoniously receive the first airframe section of BrahMos from the Chairman of Godrej and Boyce Mfg. Company, J.N. Godrej. About 20 Indian and seven Russian companies are making critical systems for the missile.

He said that the missile was undergoing critical tests to meet the Army's specific requirements to be able to take on different types of targets. The army version would have features like position updating, terrain-hugging, homing image analysis and higher degree of data processing .
The Army is raising a special BrahMos Regiment of three batteries comprising a mobile launcher, mobile and fixed command centres besides other supporting facilities.

The Air Force has identified Su-30 Mk1 aircraft to be able to deliver air-launched version of the BrahMos. The air-launched version will be lighter in weight with its reduced booster. Dr. Pillai said that it would have the advantage of the speed of the platform itself. It would have fins for stability and a simplified nose.

He said that one BrahMos could be fitted under the belly of Su-30 without any structural modification. Two more could be added under the wings if they were upgraded. The Air Force has already accepted the feasibility report and the missile is being readied for test. The army version has already undergone two tests. Both the services would be able to induct the missile in a couple of years.

The BrahMos is a multiple-platform missile for the Navy. All new warships would be armed with the BrahMos and all big ships undergoing a refit would also get it, he said. The Navy would be able to fit even its land-based maritime reconnaissance aircraft, TU-142 for air to ship attacks while being on surveillance missions. The aircraft would be able to carry up to six BrahMos. The Navy has already fitted four two-tube missile launchers onboard INS Rajput, a Kashin class destroyer. All five warships of this class would get BrahMos.

Brahmos is a modified Yakhont and Yakhont does not have TERCOM.
For a missile travelling at mach 2+,it is not possible to make many changes to its course,and it is not possible to take Radar or visual pictures of the ground and then compare with internal database and then make adjustments to course. By the time the calculations have completed,the missile is way off due to speed. Other means are deployed in Supersonic missile,and these other modes of navigation are INS/Radar seekers and Satellite navigation.
Since Brahmos on ly flies for a short time,usually a good INS will do the job as INS error is proportionate to the time the missile has been flying,and Brahmos that time is very small,and INS accumulated error too will be very small.
Babur or Tomahawk which have to fly for long durations at slow speed and make many waypoint turns,and will need extra navigation systems for correcting accumulated error in INS.
Missiles like Brahmos don't do Terrain hugging.They fly at a certain average altitude,and don't do many way-points either.
The "S" maneuver is usually for last phase of flight when it wiggles to avoid enemy defensive fire.

 

[Major Shaitan Singh]

Some say's BGM-109 Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles (TLAMs) is the best in the world. The failure rate is quite high.

US officials said that the USS Arleigh Burke in the Red Sea and the USS Philippine Sea in the northern Gulf fired 47 TLAMs at positions used by the little-known Al-Qaeda affiliate called Khorasan west of the city of Aleppo on 22 September.
If two of the 47 TLAMs fired by the US Navy crashed on the way to their targets it would represent a failure rate of just more than 4%.

Brahmos has never failed. Nirbhay will follow the same.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Some say's BGM-109 Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles (TLAMs) is the best in the world. The failure rate is quite high.

US officials said that the USS Arleigh Burke in the Red Sea and the USS Philippine Sea in the northern Gulf fired 47 TLAMs at positions used by the little-known Al-Qaeda affiliate called Khorasan west of the city of Aleppo on 22 September.
If two of the 47 TLAMs fired by the US Navy crashed on the way to their targets it would represent a failure rate of just more than 4%.

Brahmos has never failed. Nirbhay will follow the same.

Unlike Brahmos, Tomahawk is battle-proven plus Brahmos did fail some tests

 

[gslv mk3]

Don't believe what V K saraswat tells you.

Excuse me ?

why is that after spending years harping about Hype-Ultra-Bazunga sonic Brahmos Missile.
India "Lowers" her standards and make s measly Subsonic Cruise missile?

THe new Indian logic making rounds is. Due to economical reasons. Supersonic wala cost 5 million per piece and this sub sonic wala cause 1-1.5 million per piece

 

[gslv mk3]

After reaching Mars with a lego packet (bought from others, guided by others) you suddenly want to jump ahead of the rest of the world

Non sense as usual.

Reality is India can not produce a basic prop trainer.

Not even able to produce a prop plane

Heard of HAL HT-2 which flew in 1948 ?Shut up.

Busy with 3d generation aircraft since the 90's

LCA is a third generation aircraft ? explain why ?

 

[shaheenmissile]

Some say's BGM-109 Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles (TLAMs) is the best in the world. The failure rate is quite high.

US officials said that the USS Arleigh Burke in the Red Sea and the USS Philippine Sea in the northern Gulf fired 47 TLAMs at positions used by the little-known Al-Qaeda affiliate called Khorasan west of the city of Aleppo on 22 September.
If two of the 47 TLAMs fired by the US Navy crashed on the way to their targets it would represent a failure rate of just more than 4%.

Brahmos has never failed. Nirbhay will follow the same.

Tomahawk has been fired 2000 times in real battles. How many times Brahmos has been fired?

 

[Vinod2070]

Non sense as usual.

Heard of HAL HT-2 which flew in 1948 ?Shut up.

LCA is a third generation aircraft ? explain why ?

Such posts show why Pakistan is in the mess it is in.

There is just no desire to do anything positive. They seem to think that dissing India's achievements is enough!

And it is funny when these people talk of things (like Mars mission) so much above their aukat.

 

[ChennaiDude]

That is correct.

Pakistan always conducts all its missile tests over its cities. They are sure of the test's success on all parameters.

Wonder why?

And then blame it on a Drone attack!

 

[ChennaiDude]

Good luck endia

The best post of the day!..Being your 1st post....!

 

[shaheenmissile]

Such posts show why Pakistan is in the mess it is in.

There is just no desire to do anything positive. They seem to think that dissing India's achievements is enough!

And it is funny when these people talk of things (like Mars mission) so much above their aukat.

You people are good at derailing a perfectly fine thread.....

In reply to your taunt..may i say


'says a person who is ruled by Hindu Balwaii"

 

[Vinod2070]

You people are good at derailing a perfectly fine thread.....

In reply to your taunt..may i say

It was not specifically meant for you.

Check the post I replied to. See the ignorance of the self important ignorant.

After reaching Mars with a lego packet (bought from others, guided by others) you suddenly want to jump ahead of the rest of the world

People who know the challenges and complexities involved would appreciate the magnitude of the achievement.

While ignorant jealous baboons will "taunt" like what this person did here.

But why does this person need to obsess with our Mars mission, even accounting for the ignorance and jahiliyat? What does it have to do with him and his ilk?

'says a person who is ruled by Hindu Balwaii"

I must congratulate you on being ruled by a great musllah leader.

This obsession with religion shows us why we are so different people and countries and should have nothing to do with each other. You worry about your Ummah and invader heroes while we do what we need to.

 

[gslv mk3]

You people are good at derailing a perfectly fine thread....

I don't think 'Munir' is an Indian,is he ?

 

[gslv mk3]

the one thing we know about DRDO is that they are obsessed with complicating simple tasks to create hype and bravado.
Exact opposite in Pakistan,we keep it simple. thats why done things years ago which Bharat is trying to do now.

Non sense

that is your wet dream as of now.its not a fact.

Who told you ? see the range claimed by DRDO