India slips 10 spots in innovation to 76th position

[gslv mk3]

the great pdf mystery...

is @gslv mk3 a real walking talking human or some third-rate computer program, developed by coolie company infosys?? because all this @gslv mk3 is capable of doing is posting patriotic isro fan boy delusions or sarcastic internet pictures whose connection to the thread posts... is basically inability to respond sanely and logically to criticism.

the delusions of this computer program are occasionally helped by his brother, isro2222.

Nothing else.There is nothing to discuss with an idiot who makes ridiculous claims like 'ISRO had a funding of $25 billion dollars'

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gslv mark-whatever" which has once exploded on launch, and which cannot even carry two tons

If some satellite weighs more than one ton, then india asks france to launch this heavy satellite through the french ariane rocket.

even in satellite design, indian space "research" organization takes help of israel...

satellites are unnecessary, 99 percent of the times

which rocket in question uses some stupid concept called "cryogenic technology" when others are thinking about methane propellents.

now, they are silently talking about "semi-cryogenics", essentially after looking at the kerosene-lox engines used in the successful falcon rockets

Remember these @jamahir ?

 

[Chanakya's_Chant]

ah... the great isro fan boy fallback... "oh, we don't have sufficient funding. what can we do?? what can we do??"

elon musk started spacex ( private company ) in 2002 with 100 million dollars, and spacex spent maybe 600 million until now... when they became the only private space agency to launch and dock their own spaceship at the international space station... thrice... and deliver supplies. other than spacex, only four national government space agencies have achieved this... rka ( russia ), nasa ( usa ), jaxa ( japan ) and esa ( europe ). where in the list is 50 year old isro of india??

and whatever isro fan boys on pdf ( like gslv mk3 ) say, indian space "research" organization is the third richest space agency, whose funding since establishment 50 years ago, must be what, 25 billion dollars??

so your argument of funding being reason for india's incapability... doesn't work.



so from colonel yuri gagarin's launch in 1961 to possible launch by spacex of its first astronaut by end of 2016... all this time indian space "research" organization kept being a "emerging space power"... and it will keep being "emerging space power" for the next 50 years.



i don't care about silly satellites. space travel is for humans... not for israeli-built indian spy satellites... or for usa gps satellites.



can you upload an audio clip of how you speak on at two topics?? and huzoor, i am maybe 10 years younger to your father. so first learn some manners.

I wish if your parents had slept quietly that night

 

[jamahir]

Where was ISRO back in 61 eh you falseflag troll ?

okay. indian space "research" organization didn't "technically" exist in 1961... but its previous name did exist... incospar... established in 1962 by vikram sarabhai. great difference. and then inscospar was "technically "renamed to isro in 1969.

Indian National Committee for Space Research - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

not 1961, but 1962 so in reality, isro is 52 years old.

Reality check..RISAT 1

like i said, don't post pictures of stupid satellites... even iran makes satellites... there is the entire private competition sponsored by google, whose aim is to land privately-built rovers on the moon... heard of the google lunar x prize??

so where are the must publicized "vyomanonauts"... indian astronauts flying out into the depths of space in indigenous indian spaceships which use launcher rockets made safe by indigenous indian "state of the art cryogenic engines"??

Nothing else.There is nothing to discuss with an idiot who makes ridiculous claims like 'ISRO had a funding of $25 billion dollars'

okay. not 25 billion dollars. so 15 billion dollars then. okay, ten billion dollars??

again. elon musk didn't need even a billion dollars to make his achievements. understood that, coolie fan boy of failure isro??

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you may post any of my previous posts. each has more common sense and reality than all the brilliant scientists of your isro. read my posts again and try to answer them with common sense.

I wish if your parents had slept quietly that night

and i wish alexander's greeks had killed your namesake hero. and as for males like you, the world should have introduced selective male infanticide... selective, you understand??

"chanakya's chant"... eesh... what a stupid name... try saying it with emphasis... you will realize how silly it sounds.

 

[Bobby]

Too much obsession about India....looser

 

[gslv mk3]

okay. indian space "research" organization didn't "technically" exist in 1961... but its previous name did exist... incospar... established in 1962 by vikram sarabhai. great difference. and then inscospar was "technically "renamed to isro in 1969.

Indian National Committee for Space Research - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

not 1961, but 1962 so in reality, isro is 52 years old.

Too stupid.It doesnt have the money or expertise back then.

like i said, don't post pictures of stupid satellites.

Oh,Well then.You know about Risat 2 brought from Israel & conveniently forgot RISAT 1 developed in India ?

. even iran makes satellites..

Comparing this with a Radar Imaging Sat ?LMAO

there is the entire private competition sponsored by google, whose aim is to land privately-built rovers on the moon... heard of the google lunar x prize??

So ?

so where are the must publicized "vyomanonauts"... indian astronauts flying out into the depths of space in indigenous indian spaceships which use launcher rockets made safe by indigenous indian "state of the art cryogenic engines"??

Money tera baap dega ?

okay. not 25 billion dollars. so 15 billion dollars then. okay, ten billion dollars??

What can you do with less than $1 billion budget ?

again. elon musk didn't need even a billion dollars to make his achievements. understood that, coolie fan boy of failure isro??

Yeah right,he only needed NASA technology & expertise.Now what?[/QUOTE][/quote]

 

[Chanakya's_Chant]

and i wish alexander's greeks had killed your name sake hero. and as for males like you, the world should have introduced selective male infanticide... selective, you understand??

"chanakya's chant"... eesh... what a stupid name... try saying it with emphasis... you will realize how silly it sounds.

"What's in the name?" Shakespeare said once - Come one I don't need the expert advice from a moron out here about my username at least! With the level of your moronic arguments and trolling - I expected a much better come back - Pretty disappointing - Anyways Enjoy! But I still wish if your parents had slept quietly that night....

 

[jamahir]

Too stupid.It doesnt have the money or expertise back then.

Money tera baap dega ?

money... funding... is that all you patriotic indians can think of?? no wonder. india is the most capitalist society in history.

huzoor, there are other things needed too... intelligence, ambition, common sense, curiosity... know where you might find these among the ranks of the phd-type "brilliant" coconut-breaking "scientists" of isro??

how much money did the soviet union have, to launch yuri gagarin to space in 1961?? and who gave them the "technology and expertise"?? aliens from mars?? no. they learnt and built that themselves.

but indians always wait for "technology transfers" and "production under foreign license". they call it "tot". they do "feasability studies" and work with "standards". huzoor, all that is done by people who cannot design anything themselves. they don't take risks. they are not confident about their own abilities. they take the easiest path. they only exist for doing jobs and arranging weddings and sending some to stupid colleges to get college degrees. when they do that, why shouldn't they be called coolies??

what happened to "ambani aerospace"?? you could have gotten ambani group, infosys, mahindra, tcs, satyam etc to pool in your needed billions ( your logic ) to send indians into space. they used to have billions... but sadly now they don't... try to reason why.

Oh,Well then.You know about Risat 2 brought from Israel & conveniently forgot RISAT 1 developed in India ?

Comparing this with a Radar Imaging Sat ?LMAO

like i said, no talk of satellites, please. real achievement is building space stations and building bases on some moon or traveling to asteroids.

So ?

chandrayaan 2 rover... isro cannot build it while private teams outside india, can build a moon rover... or at least are half-way through it.

What can you do with less than $1 billion budget ?

build inflatable space stations for low earth orbit... build computers and food production system... prepare environment and life support systems... build space capsule to travel to low earth orbit... all in preparation to send humans to mars... quite a lot you see.

but indians,, by culture, complicate things when they should simplify... starting from language ( getting rid of all nonsense fancy technical terms like "cryogenic technology" ).

Yeah right,he only needed NASA technology & expertise.Now what?

who told you that??

so if nasa provided him the "technology and expertise", why did they never have a rocket like spacex falcon 9?? why did they have the saturn?? why did they have the ugly space shuttle?? why did they retire it?? why didn't they give the same "technology and expertise" to much older companies like boeing??

elon musk built his falcon rockets and dragon capsule within spacex... their own design... learnt from reading books, talking to people... simplifying everything... using common sense...

and not by having 50,000 phd fools from bangalore.

"What's in the name?"

shows your personality. you believe in the delusion of "india" ( whatever that means ) being super-great in history. you believe that hindus "invented" zero. you believe that the muslim-built taj mahal was originally a hindu temple called "tejo mahalaya". you believe that the ramayana and mahabharata were actual events that happened 50,000 years ago, "pre history", as you people call it. you believe that "indus valley civilization" was in any way connected to hindu culture. you believe...

essentially, your name shows that you don't believe in history but in mythology... your name shows your delusions.

But I still wish if your parents had slept quietly that night....

well, bad for you that they didn't. therefore i am here to eradicate "indian culture" and contribute to installing world socialism.

 

[JohnyD]

ya..everyone is after secured job/work/contracts/deals/revenue...! ..young generation is wasting their talent to pay off their housing loan...going abrord and doing cheap work ...taking up secured jobs in India ...cant see anyone who is leaving the well paid job to pursue his interest....innovation kind of thing is done on paper just to get PHD degree but that is as good as garbage....we need to develop risk taking culture before we make up to the list of top innovators...

 

[Mike_Brando]

okay. indian space "research" organization didn't "technically" exist in 1961... but its previous name did exist... incospar... established in 1962 by vikram sarabhai. great difference. and then inscospar was "technically "renamed to isro in 1969.

Indian National Committee for Space Research - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

not 1961, but 1962 so in reality, isro is 52 years old.



like i said, don't post pictures of stupid satellites... even iran makes satellites... there is the entire private competition sponsored by google, whose aim is to land privately-built rovers on the moon... heard of the google lunar x prize??

so where are the must publicized "vyomanonauts"... indian astronauts flying out into the depths of space in indigenous indian spaceships which use launcher rockets made safe by indigenous indian "state of the art cryogenic engines"??



okay. not 25 billion dollars. so 15 billion dollars then. okay, ten billion dollars??

again. elon musk didn't need even a billion dollars to make his achievements. understood that, coolie fan boy of failure isro??

---
you may post any of my previous posts. each has more common sense and reality than all the brilliant scientists of your isro. read my posts again and try to answer them with common sense.



and i wish alexander's greeks had killed your namesake hero. and as for males like you, the world should have introduced selective male infanticide... selective, you understand??

"chanakya's chant"... eesh... what a stupid name... try saying it with emphasis... you will realize how silly it sounds.

Buddy just shut your trap!You are only making a fool out of yourself falsey

 

[jamahir]

Buddy just shut your trap!You are only making a fool out of yourself falsey

then kind sir, please read my posts again and show me, how your friends are not delusional??

falsey, is it?? how many times have patriotic indians have not called me that?? go tell that to arundhati roy and the mao-ists.

 

[Koovie]

india is the most capitalist society in history.

If that was true, we would be a super power

 

[gslv mk3]

india is the most capitalist society in history.

huzoor, there are other things needed too... intelligence, ambition, common sense, curiosity... know where you might find these among the ranks of the phd-type "brilliant" coconut-breaking "scientists" of isro??

Usual BS.There are many more things to do-launch more communication sats.remote sensing.disaster management.Upcoming regional navigation systems.

how much money did the soviet union have, to launch yuri gagarin to space in 1961?? and who gave them the "technology and expertise"?? aliens from mars?? no. they learnt and built that themselves.

Ever heard of world war II,German Scientists & the V 2 Rocket ? Russians were competing with US while India was struggling with poverty did not have funds to allocate for space exploration.Check out percapita income of both countries,back in 1961.

FYI,Sarabhai & his team started from this,a church & bishop house which had to be donated by the villagers sincee the government didn't have funds to build them even a workshop for them

With this kind of infrastructure any one can create a human rated launch vehicle & a crew capsule,I guess.

what happened to "ambani aerospace"?? you could have gotten ambani group, infosys, mahindra, tcs, satyam etc to pool in your needed billions ( your logic ) to send indians into space. they used to have billions... but sadly now they don't... try to reason why.

That has it to do with what I said ?

chandrayaan 2 rover... isro cannot build it while private teams outside india, can build a moon rover...

Are you dumb ? Who else is building it for ISRO?

IIT-K Rover prototype

ISRO Rover

build inflatable space stations for low earth orbit...

And then there is the budget.The government is yet to give full scale funding for HSP program,this guy wants a space station.

build computers

What computers ?

and food production system...

like ?

prepare environment and life support systems...

ISRO recently commissioned a new facility called Cabin Environment Simulation System (CESS) under the Human Space Flight Program. CESS will be used for test and evaluation of space modules under regulated environmental conditions that may arise during various phases of manned mission.

build space capsule to travel to low earth orbit...

Again,wake up

The country's space agency has displayed a prototype of its first crew capsule module designed to carry two people into low Earth orbit, ScienceInsider reported.

The Indian Space Research Organization announced plans to send the test prototype into orbit with the first experimental flight of the country's latest rocket, the Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle Mark III..

India unveils its own astronaut crew capsule, plans test launch

but indians,, by culture, complicate things when they should simplify... starting from language ( getting rid of all nonsense fancy technical terms like "cryogenic technology" ).

So SSME is nonsense.Saturn V is nonesense. Virtually every launcher that uses cryogenic engine -Ariane 5,H II A,Atlas V are nonsense.eh ?

so if nasa provided him the "technology and expertise", why did they never have a rocket like spacex falcon 9?? why did they have the saturn?? why did they have the ugly space shuttle?? why did they retire it?? why didn't they give the same "technology and expertise" to much older companies like boeing??
elon musk built his falcon rockets and dragon capsule within spacex... their own design... learnt from reading books, talking to people... simplifying everything... using common sense...

As another Indian member @bloo has pointed out,SpaceX is nsimply another government-funded contractor using a different procurement model.

The injector for Merlin Engine comes from Lunar Module Descent Engine,the turbopumps designed by same company that designed one for RS 88 engine.







ISRO recently commissioned a new facility called Cabin Environment Simulation System (CESS) under the Human Space Flight Program. CESS will be used for test and evaluation of space modules under regulated environmental conditions that may arise during various phases of manned mission.
ISRO recently commissioned a new facility called Cabin Environment Simulation System (CESS) under the Human Space Flight Program. CESS will be used for test and evaluation of space modules under regulated environmental conditions that may arise during various phases of manned mission.

 

[Jlaw]

China hailed for creativity: Global Innovation Index

Jul 19,2014

SYDNEY, July 19(Xinhua) -- China has been singled out for its embrace of economically innovative thought leadership during the release of the latest Global Innovation Index (GII) Friday, on the sidelines of the B20 and G20 Trade Minister's meetings in Sydney.

While Switzerland, the United Kingdom and Sweden, traditional big-hitters in the innovation space, topped this year's Index, Francis Gurry, Director General of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) praised Chinese leadership and responsiveness in the economically anxious global climate.

Gurry told Xinhua that the world's fastest growing economy had sought, and achieved new levels of inspiration that would benefit itself and "the rest of the world in years to come."

"Innovation is the basis of competition in the global economy. This underlines the importance of measuring capacity to innovate through the Global Innovation Index and of China's strategy to move from Made in China to Created in China."

The GII executive summary noted that alone among the BRICS, China "seems on track to enter the top 25 in the GII","China ranks second in innovation efficiency in 2014 on a global basis and is improving steadily along many dimensions of the GII."

Among Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa (BRICS), four improved their positions. Brazil rose by three places to reach the 61st rank, the Russian Federation by 13 places to reach the 49th, and China by six places to reach the 29th, and South Africa by five places to reach the 53rd.

The progress of China and the Russian Federation in the rankings is among the most notable of all countries; China's ranking is now comparable to that of many high-income economies. India, however, slips 10 places to the 76th position this year.

The index lauded China's "impressive" second position in the Knowledge and Technology outputs pillar and shows decent improvements in the Creative outputs pillar, ranking the first in Creative goods exports.

In further good news, ahead of a G20 Trade Ministers meeting that will seek to further align developing and developed economies, Sub-Saharan Africa posted significant regional improvement in the annual rankings.

The GII 2014 surveys 143 economies around the world, using 81 indicators to gauge both their innovation capabilities and measurable results.

Published annually since 2007, the GII is now a leading benchmarking tool for business executives, policy makers and others seeking insight into the state of innovation around the world.

This year's study involves partners around the globe, including the Confederation of Indian Industry, Chinese mobile giant Huawei and an Advisory Board of 14 international experts.

Taking into account the stutters and splutters of a slowdown in the growth of global research and development, the theme of the Global Innovation Index (GII) 2014, "The Human Factor in Innovation", has focused attention on exploring the role of human capital in the innovation process.

According to Gurry, the theme tracks the growing interest that firms and governments have shown in identifying and energizing creative individuals and teams.

"The improvement in performance of China reflects the sustained strategic efforts on the part of China to place innovation at the very forefront of success," Gurry told Xinhua.

"Another indication of the success of these efforts is the movement by China into "third highest filer of international patent applications - overtaking Germany," he added.

Australia's Federal Minister for Industry Ian MacFarlane endorsed the GII's Asia-Pacific launch, as he took time out from Australia's intensive preparations here as host the annual Group of Twenty (G20) Leaders Summit in November.

"We understand that efforts to increase prosperity depend on innovation, creativity and a focus on new global markets, as well as a strong intellectual property system, which is a central part of the growth agenda being discussed by the G20," Macfarlane told reporters.

"Innovation is at the heart of a job-rich, strong, sustainable and balanced growth pathas envisioned by the G20 leadership," Macfarlane said.

China hailed for creativity: Global Innovation Index | Shanghai Daily

Still need more work. Not satisfied until # 1.