India shows off the MKI that Pakistan claimed to have shot down. True?

[aliyusuf]

Where is the proof this is the same jet that PAF defeated on 27-02-19? Why India have taken so long to show this jet?

Also, where is the proof that an F-16 was lost in the same day? Stupid Indians; they can only soothe each other with Bollywood masala.

Stupidity also lies in opening whole new threads on the enemy's every single cockamamie antics. Some good sense should shown and such shenanigans should be ignored. Because by highlighting them and ridiculing them we are not going to change their minds. In fact, by doing so, we give them further opportunities to spew their illogical and mindless garbage on our forum.

 

[loanranger]

Every claim is ruining the credibility of the IAF further, if it had one to begin with. These nonsense claims are hilarious at best. They could have countered PAF's claims in better ways.

Where is the serial number and who was the pilot? What if the PAF released clippings of the radio communication? That would be a major embarrassment. The IAF should actually be thankful that none has been released thus far.

It baffles me why IAF would continue to let its media outlets disprove the truth like this Avenger1 stunt they pulled today if they know PAF has that kind of stuff with them.

 

[Areesh]

I don't consider the F-16 to be a kill.

That's good.

You also don't see me claiming about MKI kill till I get a concrete proof for that

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

. It is noteworthy that the PAF F-16s had picked up tell-tale lock-on ‘chirps’ of the apparently serviceable Mirage 2000 radar on their threat warning systems, a short while earlier. In the desperate situation that was developing, an IAF radar controller was heard calling out to the Mirage leader, “Confirm you can employ your missiles without the radars?” On hearing a negative reply, the controller pulled Mirage patrol well out of the active zone

It means IAF Mirage 2000s had lock on our F 16s? @Oscar @Dazzler @gambit @messiach
Are Mirage 2000s radar better than F16 MLU ones?

 

[truthseeker2010]

Every aircraft has unique transponder codes.

Callsign and transponder codes are two different things. Callsign is military specific and is a "nickname," whereas transponder codes are used in civilians flights by atc's to differentiate b/w different aircraft.

 

[MM_Haider]

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But it was not brought down and escaped unscathed.

Here is the proof that SU 30 was downed:

villagers clearly saw three paratroopers ejecting ... since no F16 was downed (all are counted for) ... it clearly shows that one was Mig 21 and other was SU 30 MKI (two seater)..

Indian Media Initially aired the news of SU 30 MKI kill

 

[Jammer]

Just noticed this today,

https://www.rt.com/news/470425-india-sukhoi-pakistan-parade/

An Indian Sukhoi Su-30MKI delighted spectators at an air show outside Delhi, but may have caused considerable embarrassment to Pakistan, which claimed to have shot down the fighter jet more than six months ago.

Two of the Russian-made warplanes were spotted in the skies above Hindon Air Base, flying in formation as part of a celebration marking the 87th birthday of the Indian Air Force (IAF). According to NDTV, one of the aircraft, named ‘Avenger-1’, was the same jet that Pakistan boasted of destroying in a brief fracas back in February. The fighter jet was even piloted by the same “shot down” crew, the outlet reported.


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On Air Force Day, IAF Flies Sukhoi Fighter That Pak Claims It Shot Down


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According to Islamabad, the Su-30 fell from the sky in a battle on February 27, a day after the Indian Air Force bombed an alleged terrorist camp inside Pakistan. In the ensuing dogfight, India claims to have shot down an American-made F-16, before one of its own MiG-21 Bison’s fell to Pakistani fire. New Delhi firmly denied that one of its Su-30s were destroyed in the battle, accusing Pakistan of making the story up to cover for the loss of its American fighter jet.


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#Watch: IAF Sukhoi 30MKI salutes the New Air Force Chief in a vertical climb at the 87th #AirForceDay celebrations at Hindon Air Force base in Ghaziabad.

Jaguars, Mirage 2000, Chinook heavy transporters too adorned the airshow to mark its anniversary. [Video Courtesy: DD]




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The Air Force Day festivities included another swipe at Pakistan: Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman, who is credited with shooting down the Pakistani F-16, leads a formation of MiG-21 Bison.

Now I have seen some stupid/desperate acts in my time, but this is a new level. This boys and girls is sad....

 

[Flight of falcon]

They should also have rona dhona on a flat bed carrying AMRAAM wreckage as a proof that their aircraft destroyed Pakistani missile by ramming his jet into it,......and nothing happened to maha Indian jet.

 

[TsAr]

Indians should be talking about Rafale today, that should be the focus. I don't understand why they had to bring this up again and humiliate themselves.
Just focus on your Rafale and sing its praise before its too late..

 

[masterchief_mirza]

the sizeable formation sneaked in from a south-easterly direction for a stand-off attack on a seminary at Jabba village

So the IAF squandered an opportunity to strike a hut in Jabba.

@Skywalker

 

[Mace]

Here is the proof that SU 30 was downed:

villagers clearly saw three paratroopers ejecting ... since no F16 was downed (all are counted for) ... it clearly shows that one was Mig 21 and other was SU 30 MKI (two seater)..

Indian Media Initially aired the news of SU 30 MKI kill

Bro 3 parachutes coming down strengthens bringing down of F16 and not SU30.

I repeat, there is still no concrete evidence of either the SU30 or F16 coming down as claimed by respective parties.

But strong circumstantial evidence supports downing of F16 than a SU30 which includes the video shared by you.

 

[Flash_Ninja]

The onus of proof to prove that a Sukhoi 30 was downed is on the Pakistanis anyway and they have not provided any proof till date. IAF is not obligated to disprove anything. So if they show us the formation which faced the PAF on Feb 27, we can only take their word for it.

Also, @Areesh

So why were you gangus waving around a destroyed Pakistani missile on tv crying about F-16's, If Pakistan didnt shoot anything down why would the IAF be in possession of a used Pakistani missile?

Why is it that eyewitness accounts noted another aircraft shotdown and parachutes falling into IOK?

Why is it that conveniently a month later a Su-30 pilot turns up dead after his "transport vehicle crashes"?

Why is it that in the span of time since then has the IAF created a narrative against the previously "superior" Su-30, and now claim it is outdated and to be replaced by Mirages?

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Every aircraft has unique transponder codes.

What are the "unique transponder codes" for the MKIs that engaged with the Falcons?

 

[SQ8]

It means IAF Mirage 2000s had lock on our F 16s? @Oscar @Dazzler @gambit @messiach
Are Mirage 2000s radar better than F16 MLU ones?

Detecting a radar scanning you is different from a radar locking onto you.

The Mirage 2000I radar is definitely an excellent system that exceeds the APG-68 in many modes, but they did not lock on.

Every aircraft has unique transponder codes.

Clearly you don’t know the difference between transponder codes and radio call signs.
You can call any MKI or even a An-32 Avenger-1. That doesn’t reflect onto radio call signs.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

So why were you gangus waving around a destroyed Pakistani missile on tv crying about F-16's, If Pakistan didnt shoot anything down why would the IAF be in possession of a used Pakistani missile?

These missiles were dodged. What could have happened to these fired Amraams is something your own Kaiser Tufail has speculated upon in his write up on the skirmish.