India shops for 6 Chinooks

[Skull and Bones]

crawl.........

























to the nearest mi-26

Good, since my point is proved, i'm off.

 

[kaykay]

Those who doubts chinooks, should read this. Except load, chinooks are better in almost everything including service ceiling and lower maintainance cost.
Livefist: Boeing presentation to IAF comparing Chinook with Mi-26

 

[The_Sidewinder]

Well lets hope it turns out to be a great decision. I am bit skeptical though.

 

[sasi]

Chinooks are procured for swift movement of infantry to forward area. Due poor infras, in first 72 hrs it will play a major role with high sortie rate, where troop concentration is required.

Even mi 26 offer the same, its maintenace and high operation cost(manpower/fuel economy) are drawbacks.
Chinooks are employed for NE,where nearly half of the year faces heavy rainfall and cross-wind. Tail-less heli is preffered.

 

[Black Eagle 90]

India wants to ink a deal for six Chinook heavy-duty helicopters by the time Prime Minister Manmohan Singh meets US President Barack Obama on September 27 in Washington.

A half-dozen CH-47 Chinooks, a twin-engined helicopter capable of carrying 50 troops or 6.5 metric tonnes of cargo, will carry a price tag of about $500 million (`3,200 crore).

Introduced in 1962, the Chinook played a major role in the Vietnam war and has been the mainstay of the American forces in Afghanistan.

The Boeing-made helicopters will be bought through the foreign military sales route in which arms are sold in a government-to-government deal on a fixed price basis — ruling out haggling that often invites bribery charge.

The Chinook deal is being fast-tracked, say Indian government sources, and New Delhi hopes to have it finalised by December.
This is partly being driven by a desire to flesh out the thin agenda at the Washington summit. The proposal will be added to the schedule of US deputy secretary of defence Ashton Carter when he comes to New Delhi September 16-18.

The Indian side wants some major defence purchases readied for the summit, but other Indo-US weapons deals are caught in red tape. For example, the M777 howitzer deal has been in the works for two years and now, in part because of rupee devaluation, the price tag is bigger.

The Chinooks also face barriers. Boeing recently tried to add limited liability clauses to its military purchases and the Indian government is not happy about it. US sources say they have yet to receive any notification from the ministry of defence about the Chinooks.

The induction of the Chinooks will confirm the Stars and Stripes look of the Indian Air Force’s airlift capabilities. India has already bought C-130 Hercules and C-17 Globemaster heavy-lift airplanes.

Military sources say the US aircraft have proven better at functioning at high-altitudes then the Russian planes they are replacing.
India has been mulling buying Chinooks to replace the Russian-made Mi-26 transport helicopters that were transformational when they were introduced a quarter-century ago but have a record of chronic maintenance problems.

India will be the 17th air force in the world to use Chinooks.

If not wrong than India needs about:
100 Chinooks
100 Apache

 

[saurav]

It was supposed to be 15. Buying only 6 will not cut it.

 

[Abingdonboy]

The deal is for 15 not 6. I feel like they've got confused with the follow-on order for 6 C-130J-30s.

 

[kaykay]

The deal is for 15 not 6. I feel like they've got confused with the follow-on order for 6 C-130J-30s.

or I feel 6 C-17s.

 

[sudhir007]

A half-dozen CH-47 Chinooks, a twin-engined helicopter capable of carrying 50 troops or 6.5 metric tonnes of cargo, will carry a price tag of about $500 million (`3,200 crore).

Yaar i dnot understand why GoI was to fast when it dealing with USA. but in other case it will take decade to finalize

Look at the price $84 million

 

[he-man]

Yaar i dnot understand why GoI was to fast when it dealing with USA. but in other case it will take decade to finalize

Look at the price $84 million

wtf????

that can't be correct.................actually we are getting 15 chinooks so it will be 30-35 million per piece

 

[Jason bourne]

Yaar i dnot understand why GoI was to fast when it dealing with USA. but in other case it will take decade to finalize

Look at the price $84 million

This will not be the acquisition costs alone. The figure looks more like it includes training, ground equipment, spare engines, other spares, simulators and Boeing support for the fleet for a few years. Nevertheless, very expensive.

 

[kaykay]

Yaar i dnot understand why GoI was to fast when it dealing with USA. but in other case it will take decade to finalize

Look at the price $84 million

sudhir bhai I guess here they have reported it wrong and I am not at all surprised neither you should be(you know our media). Deal would be for 15 chinooks IMO.

 

[Jason bourne]

sudhir bhai I guess here they have reported it wrong and I am not at all surprised neither you should be(you know our media). Deal would be for 15 chinooks IMO.

Yes it is reported wrongly but stil it will cost us around 80 m ... And it's not as US milking us all the friendly country get them as same price ..

 

[zzzz]

are u serious??who is judging looks here dude??

here as far as performance goes in speed department

chinook

Maximum speed: 170 knots (196 mph, 315 km/h)
Cruise speed: 130 kt (149 mph, 240 km/h)

mi-26

Maximum speed: 295 km/h (159 kt, 183 mph)
Cruise speed: 255 km/h (137 kt, 158 mph)

Chinook has no advantage here even though it carries 16000 kg less ordnance
in service ceiling though its better(4500m vs 5600m)
i fail to understand

In September, 1996, one Mi-26 set a world record when lifted 224 paratroopers at the height of 6500 m (four miles).

Prafulla.net - Amazing - 'Mil Mi-26' : The Largest Serial Transport Helicopter in the World

 

[he-man]

In September, 1996, one Mi-26 set a world record when lifted 224 paratroopers at the height of 6500 m (four miles).

Prafulla.net - Amazing - 'Mil Mi-26' : The Largest Serial Transport Helicopter in the World

ppl can say whatever they like but i am a fan