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India sets up elaborate system to tap phone call.

Right move according to me. I don't mind this in the National interest.

Do you really think that the regime will use it for the national good?

I am all for better security and safety but knowing Indian politicians, this will make a lot of problem for all Indians as politicians will create trouble for people.
 
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Nothing shocking here, Indian satellites were capable on eavesdropping on wireless communication for more than a decade now. You guys didn't know that?
 
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This is how EVERY nation with such systems in place does it- key phrases/words being identified and recording not a operator physically listening to every single phone call- that would be impossible!

Yeah, but listening for keyphrases is becoming fast obsolete as well IMO, insurgent scum have also been evolving their comm tactics using seemingly harmless phrases along the lines of "Yes, the movie starts at 8:00 pm" and or other variations etcetra. So we should be pioneers in this field and not be satisfied with current SOP's. While these may be useful for numbers/email addresses that are already suspected or for politicians, for every identified terror cell there is usually a good number more of unidentified ones. We should be looking at other ways of tapping info from phone lines for instance... screening and identifying voice patterns such as those we make when we read from a prepared script or in code, these voice patterns would be unique from those made when we speak regularly. I guess the essence is a two-tier monitoring system would be better than one in yielding results especially considering the numerous languages used in India.
 
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ok to whoever is interested...

1. This capability has existed for the past 10 years.

2. The ability to intercept a call, which is not under surveillance to bringing it under surveillance is less than 1 minute.

3. Each circle has servers located in their main switching centre which is recording information and transmitting back to a few different agencies. These can be tapped into real-time if required.

4. The ability to authorise a tap is taken at the level of a senior IPS officer who can then authenticate the tap. The problem today in starting a tap is it takes more than 10 mins due to bureacracy in an emergency.

Believe me, when I say this, the hardware is already in place, what is being put in place is merely the software for recognition. This is just the start. You will be amazed by the level of data collection they are talking about.
 
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Cant believe people are terming this as a good thing .... You are going to trust this corruption filled govt. to intrude into your privacy ? This information will be used against the people ....that is too much power in their hands ...... Giving our freedoms and privacy over security is absolutely Ridiculous.

The kind of power the Govt. wants over the people this is no longer a Democracy ..... it will turn into an outright Autocratic state who actually don't give a Damn what the people think ...
 
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The first responsibility of any govt is security for its citizens. One minuet people are crying out for India to tighten its security and the next we hear all this civil liberties BS. Liberty comes from security. Look at the US- how safe have they become post 2001 with the raft of security measures they have brought in?

You Cannot convert a country into a totalitarian police state .... This nonsense about.. Security over freedom has been repeated million times... If you value the Democracy we have then we will not accept this intrusion of privacy ....

What security measure are you talking about...are you talking about the measure were you can be arrested put into jail without a reason provided by the govt. without any charges or any proof and without any access to a Lawyer , just because he is a suspected terrorist ?

Below is what NDA does and where we are headed towards ....
The provision would give the President the power to use the military to intern anyone - including American citizens - indefinitely, and hold them without charges or trial, anywhere in the world, including on American soil.
 
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The first responsibility of any govt is security for its citizens. One minuet people are crying out for India to tighten its security and the next we hear all this civil liberties BS. Liberty comes from security. Look at the US- how safe have they become post 2001 with the raft of security measures they have brought in?

lol this is how Germany became Nazi Germany.
 
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This is good, we would need this apparently.....Freedom comes at a cost.
 
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This is good, we would need this apparently.....Freedom comes at a cost.

What is the cost ? and what is stopping the govt. from exploiting this ? and who will keep the checks and balances on the govt....??? Do you realize this is already done by NTRO...the need to legalize this will be disastrous ..... Seriously....what does "freedom comes at a cost" even mean ? You are 1000 times more likely to get killed by anything but a terrorist .. In the end we will end up with no privacy/no freedom and no security ...mark my words ....
 
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India’s surveillance project may be as lethal as PRISM


Project documents relating to the new Centralized Monitoring System (CMS) reveal the government’s lethal and all-encompassing surveillance capabilities, which, without the assurance of a matching legal and procedural framework to protect privacy, threaten to be as intrusive as the U.S. government’s controversial PRISM project.

These capabilities are being built even as a debate rages on the extent to which the privacy of Indian Internet and social media users was compromised by the PRISM project. A PIL petition on the subject has already been admitted by the Supreme Court.

The documents in the possession of The Hindu indicate that the CMS project now has a budgeted commitment nearly double that of the Rs. 400-crore estimate that senior officials mentioned in a recent briefing to the media. Once implemented, the CMS will enhance the government’s surveillance and interception capabilities far beyond ‘meta-data,’ data mining, and the original expectation of “instant” and secure interception of phone conversations.

The interception flow diagram, hitherto under wraps, reveals that the CMS being set up by C-*** — an obscure government enterprise located on the outskirts of New Delhi — will have the capability to monitor and deliver Intercept Relating Information (IRI) across 900 million mobile (GSM and CDMA) and fixed (PSTN) lines as well as 160 million Internet users, on a ‘real time’ basis through secure ethernet leased lines.

The CMS will have unfettered access to the existing Lawful Interception Systems (LIS), currently installed in the network of every fixed and mobile operator, ISP, and International Long Distance service provider. Mobile and long distance operators, who were required to ensure interception only after they were in receipt of the “authorisation,” will no longer be in the picture. With CMS, all authorisations remain secret within government departments.

This means that government agencies can access in real time any mobile and fixed line phone conversation, SMS, fax, web-site visit, social media usage, Internet search and email, including partially written emails in draft folders, of “targeted numbers.” This is because, contrary to the impression that the CMS was replacing the existing surveillance equipment deployed by mobile operators and ISPs, it would actually combine the strength of two — expanding the CMS’s forensic capabilities multiple times.

Even where data mining and ‘meta-data’ access through call data records (CDRs) and session initiation protocol data records (SDRs) — used for Internet protocol-related communications including video conferencing, streaming multi-media, instant messaging, presence information, file transfer, video games and voice & fax over IP is concerned — the CMS will have unmatched capabilities of deep search surveillance and monitoring. The CMS is designed to have access to call content (CC) on multiple E1 leased lines through operators ‘billing/ mediation servers’. These servers will reveal user information to the accuracy of milliseconds, relating to call duration, identification and call history of those under surveillance. Additionally, it will disclose mobile numbers and email IDs, including pinpointing the target’s physical location by revealing cellphone tower information.

Nationwide surveillance

The Hindu’s investigation has also unveiled the mystery relating to the CMS’s national rollout. Contrary to reports about it being active nationwide, only Delhi and Haryana have tested “proof of concept” (POC) successfully. Kerala, Karnataka and Kolkata are the next three destinations for CMS’s implementation. Till 2015, two surveillance and interception systems will run in parallel — the existing State-wise, 200-odd Lawful Intercept and Monitoring (LIM) Systems, set up by 7 to 8 mobile operators in each of the 22 circles, plus the multiple ISP and international gateways — alongside the national rollout of CMS. The aim is to cover approximately one dozen States by the end of 2013-14.

On November 26, 2009, the government told Parliament that CMS’s implementation would overcome “the existing system’s secrecy which can be easily compromised due to manual interventions at many stages.” In January 2012, the government had admitted to intercepting over 1 lakh phones and communication devices over a year, at a rate of 7,500–9,000 per month.

Privacy vs. security

Currently two government spy agencies — the Intelligence Bureau (IB), and the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) — plus seven others, including the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), the Narcotics Control Bureau, DRI, National Intelligence Agency, CBDT (tax authority), Military Intelligence of Assam and JK and Home Ministry — are authorised to intercept and monitor citizens’ calls and emails, under the guidelines laid down by the Supreme Court, The Indian Telegraph Act 1985, Rule 419(A) and other related legislation.

Given the major technological advancements in monitoring and enhanced forensic capabilities in surveillance, coupled with the change in procedure which mandates the interception authorization to be kept secret between two government departments with no scope of a transparent public disclosure of who is being monitored, for what purpose and for how long, privacy and free speech activists are protesting and raising many questions. The government, meanwhile, is proceeding undeterred.


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Even access to my draft folds on my email.....seriously....WTF...
 
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