India selects EF, Rafale for MMRCA shortlist

[sancho]

So rafale gets its first international sale then ?

Most probably, but it's not fixed yet. Swiss also speeds up their competition, because the of favourable exchange rate at the moment, it is likely that they and Brazil gets to a final decision by the end of this, or early next year too, with good chances for Rafale.
India would definitelly not be the only export customer of Rafale that is sure!

This is what they teach u in madarsas?

better you should have took admission in a school, I must say!

Don't feed the troll!

 

[HZR2011]

september came...when will the decision come out?

 

[sancho]

september came...when will the decision come out?

Check post #2051

 

[HZR2011]

That's not correct, the comercial bids will be compared at the moment, a final decision is expected only by the end of this year:

Livefist: 'MMRCA, Inshallah By Year End': IAF Chief

how come can this guy make armed forces religious ,is he a jihadist? He should take care while giving statements

he is kinda unprofessional @$$hole

 

[sancho]

Rafales capabilities getting better and better:

Libya, AASM-IR is combat proven


Since august 18th and a picture released by the French Air Force, There were strong rumors about the first strikes using the AASM-IR in Libya. Indeed, the 2 AASM visible on the picture (see on the left) had the typical transparent window of the AASM-IR head.

It now has been confirmed by Air&Cosmos in its yesterday issue that the IR version of the AASM bomb has actually been fired in Libya for the first time, a few weeks only after it entered operational service on the Rafale.

The AASM-IR (SBU-54) is capable of 1m accuracy compared to the 10m of the GPS/INS version (SBU-38).
A new anti-tank mode (new targeting algorithms to recognize vehicles) is also under development for this smart bomb.

Rafale News: Libya, AASM-IR is combat proven


They might focus on the AASM 125 with this IR seeker for the anti tank role, possibly next to the Brimstone missile, although I wonder if they add both, or only one of them, especially since the wars in Afghanistan and Libya are more or less over now.

 

[SpArK]

 

[ptltejas]

So guys which one will win???
how many of u shifted ur party??? and to which one???

Me shifted partially 100% Rafale to 50% for both rafale typhoon. eurofighter with aesa could be better.

 

[Archie]

Rafale will win and Deal will cost us 14 Billion USD , instead of 10.4 Billion as previously planned , this is mainly due to price Inflation in last 5 yrs

Also Typhoon cost atleast 20 Mil each more than Rafale
And it is not as good a ground attack fighter as Rafale

 

[Paan Singh]

when this will be over??no big news from month

 

[IND151]

i support Rafale

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

Rafale will win and Deal will cost us 14 Billion USD , instead of 10.4 Billion as previously planned , this is mainly due to price Inflation in last 5 yrs

Also Typhoon cost atleast 20 Mil each more than Rafale
And it is not as good a ground attack fighter as Rafale

True and given the fact that we have operational experience of over 20 years on Mirage alone(40+ years,dealing with Dassault) and the fact that HAL will upgrade these might reduce the Rafale costs a bit more.
EADS,on the other hand have just BAe as a partner who has considerable amount of experience dealing with HAL(Jag/Hawk 132),which might lead to compromises on delivery dates(As HAL still has a lot of backlogs on BAe Hawk deliveries).

 

[Storm Force]

French have offered RAFAEL striaght away ie withins 12 months of signing contract . THEY are desperate to win this competition.

EADS wants 36 months to deliver first 18 AND WILL COST MORE . this point will cost them the deal

rafael to win by december this year

 

[Archie]

French have offered RAFAEL striaght away ie withins 12 months of signing contract . THEY are desperate to win this competition.

EADS wants 36 months to deliver first 18 AND WILL COST MORE . this point will cost them the deal

rafael to win by december this year

Yeah Dassault has Promised early delivery of Rafale , thats coz Dassault currently produces aircrafts in reduced quantity ie they produce 11 Rafale a yr but have Production capability to supply 30 a yr

 

[sancho]

French have offered RAFAEL striaght away ie withins 12 months of signing contract . THEY are desperate to win this competition.

That's not correct, they offered fast delivery of around 40 fighters, besides the MMRCA deal itself and as a solution for IAF shrinking squad numbers, but IAF didn't took that offer, possibly because it would have influenced MMRCA competition too much. When the first Rafales (if it wins) would be delivered is not said yet. It's also not only the production rate of Dassault that offers the advantage here, but the fact that the Rafale version offered in MMRCA will be available from 2012 onwards, while the EF with AESA radar will be available only by 2015 onwards.

And Rafale has no need to be desperate at the moment, because the production for French forces is cleared for 2018 and is likely to go on beyond 2025. Not to mention that the UAE deal is close to be done, that they are leading in Swiss, have at least 50% chance in Brazil and looks good in Kuwait, or Qatar as well.
The EF consortium on the other side is desperate to win, because their initial partners are looking more to get rid of their orders, than to place a follow T3B order, just like export sales of new fighters is not looking good (MMRCA is the best chance) and without a new sale, the production will end in 2015!

 

[blain2]

how come can this guy make armed forces religious ,is he a jihadist? He should take care while giving statements

he is kinda unprofessional @$$hole

I say inshallah all the time. What does that make me? Get your bearings straight and understand what the word means.
What if he says "by God" or "thank God"? Where does that leave him in your book?