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Many just google it and Kindly don't go off topic just to score points.
How is it offtopic? You presented a claim > when challenged, your generic answer is some officials. When asked which officials you are again trying to to obfuscate the issue due to lack of content. Please point me to a reference by Pakistani Officials which claims 50 consulates in afghanistan.
This is not off topic but a very relevant rebuttal of flimsy narrative based on lies that you present to intentionally create distrust and animosity.
If you stand by your convictions please educate us about these consulates, if not accept your mistake and move on. its quite simple.
 
Ab k maar k dekh ab k maar k dekh......
Where are those surgical strikes & 56 incher Modi.......Check my post The attack where I fictionally mention the whole scenario and the maximum possible response, you people can't do anything just use mercenaries to attack innocent school children and the polio vaccination teams. yes Chanakya u r hero and his ideologies just based on hypocrisy and lies. A coward warfare scheme.

This is enough no more replies and quotes...

OK wait and yes Gandhi who killed by Nathuram Godse and today those killers ruling India.....

Good for you.....


Of Course.
You can say whatever you want .
We will use the most suitable method .That will be our choice not yours .
I am saying this because I dont want to repeat each and every correction for your own retardness .
Believe whatever you want .

Our nation ,our democracy ,our election ,our choice ,our govt .
Who cares about your ranting
 
How is it offtopic? You presented a claim > when challenged, your generic answer is some officials. When asked which officials you are again trying to to obfuscate the issue due to lack of content. Please point me to a reference by Pakistani Officials which claims 50 consulates in afghanistan.
This is not off topic but a very relevant rebuttal of flimsy narrative based on lies that you present to intentionally create distrust and animosity.
If you stand by your convictions please educate us about these consulates, if not accept your mistake and move on. its quite simple.
No need to educate you, videos and print materials available online from your politician and NSA who openly threat Pakistan to use proxies and mercenaries. No question left when our children was killed in coward attack and our universities and polio teams are under attack. Action speaks louder then words, your leaders claimed and we accept that end of the story now wait for the befitting response if the Govt of Pakistan is interested.
 
maybe not in next ten 20 years but since the fight is on and everything Pakistan is bad and everything India is holy so apart from making threats from Indian official positions... nothing much is revealed

I understand the game and I am not morally judging it either. just like we are told that the current terrorism in Pakistan is due to its proxy war policies then it wont make Indian immune either.. take example of Rajev Gandhi
You saw what happened LTTE there after and now you have no ' strategic depth too. You guys are at mercy of your own snakes, they can strike anywhere ..Every where.

After all why pakistanis worry about DO remarks?

He threatened the ' force ' who attacked india.

Pak denied it and said no hand in this. So you have no worries
 
I fail to understand this. How is this boasting, it is the reality, Indian forces were at war with Pakistan in 1971 and Pakistan surrendered to Indian Army.?
the beginning bit of insurgency when the MB guys were prepped and equipped by them.
there were no open hostilites or declaration fo war then, we did know

later on they were joined by Indian forces in civvies and when the situation was favourable then there was no need to hide.

somewhere in this forum a former KGB official details the hand of Indian and KGB in flaring up of the insurgency well before Indian forces officially crossed the borders for the finishing move. it was one of his lectures on how you change the public opinion and how to conduct covert wars.. its a good video.. if I can find the link then you will understand what I am pointing at. why bother hide or deny it..? . Mukti Bahami didnt just become equipped and trained on its own to prepare the way for Indian forces to formally siege Dhaka...

fast forward same principle is applied in Baluchistan since 50s.. there are farari champs and then there are bases called Baloch Samachar across the border... depending on the Indian mood .. the funding increases and then there is flurry of activity.. people are abducted , infrastructure is blown up , foreigners are killed etc followed by Pak army operation and then it dies down. something like our work in Indian Kashmir.. in such cases its hard to prove direct and official involvements.

while we see the incentive to stop it due to much bigger threat of Islamic global insurgency coming from the Middle east.. Indians for now see no incentive or motive and press on benefiting from the Pakistani discomfort to the point when Americans raise a hand and say enough is done
 
  • Perimeter - 24.7 Kms
  • A Kendriya Vidyalaya School
  • 500 daily labourers.
  • 30 shops.
  • Around 500 personnel from foreign nations for training.
  • Almost 3000 families inside the airbase area.
  • The Pathankot Air Base houses a large no. of Helicopters and Mig-21s and numerous other sensitive defence equipments and assets.
The base is spread over roughly 20 square kilometres, an area the size of a small city. To add to the problem are vast stretches of idle spaces inside the airbase that have never been used or accessed. Over the years, they have taken the shape of forests with trees, elephant grass and bushes.

Was anyone of those living souls, Mig-21s or any other assets inside the airbase territory reported as a casualty? No.

This happened because the NSG and defence personnel were peerless and exemplary while searching and combatting against 6 Militants who were hiding over an area of 20 sq. Kms.


if Pathankot was a real deal then its a disgrace for the security forces to take so long to clear the place. cold start claim was checked by few terrorists. more like cold stop
 
You saw what happened LTTE there after and now you have no ' strategic depth too. You guys are at mercy of your own snakes, they can strike anywhere ..Every where.

After all why pakistanis worry about DO remarks?

He threatened the ' force ' who attacked india.

Pak denied it and said no hand in this. So you have no worries
what snakes you talking about? TTP are not our snakes they are your snakes
they have no hand in any past war they never threatened you so that remark is retarded

if you are referring to LeT or JeM as our proxies or snakes then they have no intention of harming us and are keeping themseleves and you busy in Pathankot and Kashmir valley ;)
 
the beginning bit of insurgency when the MB guys were prepped and equipped by them.
there were no open hostilites or declaration fo war then, we did know

later on they were joined by Indian forces in civvies and when the situation was favourable then there was no need to hide.

The real question is this: Is this process being repeated, and if so, what is Pakistan doing to avoid it?
 
  • Perimeter - 24.7 Kms
  • A Kendriya Vidyalaya School
  • 500 daily labourers.
  • 30 shops.
  • Around 500 personnel from foreign nations for training.
  • Almost 3000 families inside the airbase area.
  • The Pathankot Air Base houses a large no. of Helicopters and Mig-21s and numerous other sensitive defence equipments and assets.
The base is spread over roughly 20 square kilometres, an area the size of a small city. To add to the problem are vast stretches of idle spaces inside the airbase that have never been used or accessed. Over the years, they have taken the shape of forests with trees, elephant grass and bushes.
Above that any one can enter the base by just paying 25 to fifty Indian rupees...waoo how patriotic is the security at gates..
Locals paid Rs 20 to security guards to enter Pathankot base, intelligence agencies says
Locals paid Rs 20 to security guards to enter Pathankot base, intelligence agencies say - Times of India
 
  • Perimeter - 24.7 Kms
  • A Kendriya Vidyalaya School
  • 500 daily labourers.
  • 30 shops.
  • Around 500 personnel from foreign nations for training.
  • Almost 3000 families inside the airbase area.
  • The Pathankot Air Base houses a large no. of Helicopters and Mig-21s and numerous other sensitive defence equipments and assets.
The base is spread over roughly 20 square kilometres, an area the size of a small city. .

You know, I am one of the biggest terrorist haters out there, no matter who they are and what religion they belong to. So I wanted to establish that before I wrote on this topic so you don't think I am not sympathizing with India. Unfortunately, Indian members jump on to people and call them all kinds of weird shiit, without paying attention to the message of the writer.

I know Pathankot is a regional airbase and has a huge training component to it, along with various other things. But to be honest to the situation, the two-three day long operation, calling it a "success" and finding out that there were more terrorists and the area hadn't been thoroughly "clean" wasn't right, and expected of any military or force that moves fast. The IA needs special forces trained better in COIN ops. India is no Afghanistan, and they don't deal with these attacks on daily basis, nor is there a US army contingent training, so its totally understandable as to why it may have taken longer.

But the response time needs to be improved, that's for sure. That's why, the Indian defense ministry is asking for over a few billion dollars to secure these bases as of yesterday. I just hope that a big part of the massive amounts of money being asked for, goes towards training as well, and not just fencing, imaging devices and all. The only thing between active shooters and "less damage" is a fast responding team trained to handle these things in an Urban setting.

At the same time while I write this, I've seen some comments from the Pakistani members on the response time. Although I agree that the time needs to be be improved for the future, the most critical element is that Pakistan has been through this terrorism hell for two decades, the PA was trained by top AT professionals from the US Army, with decades of Urban warfare experience in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc. Plus, Pakistani Army itself has been dealing with these similar types of attacks for decades and has used the US provided training in real combat very well.

So you can't say the IA is incompetent due to slower response time, they never had the training and one and a half decade worth of combat experience against something like the Talibans, etc. But training would improve these skills. Let's hope these kind of barbaric attacks don't take place on either side of the border.
 
Let me them do some maths...ostensibly India is a poor country like Mr @Atanz claims.why do they keep contradicting themselves all the time??? Lolzzz

India and Pakistan both "muck around" in the internal affairs of each other. This is fact. The only surprise here is if they did not. The real issue here is not external support but why there groups within each country that is open to outside help or more specifically connive with external enemy. That's the issue that needs addressing.

If my brother joined hands with my enemy the thing I would need to resolve and come to terms with is that my brother sold me out. It would point to weakness within my family that my enemy harvested which is exactly what enemies are expected to do. So no point in crying about the actions of my enemy. That will only deflect from the real issue. And that will only defer the solution of my problems. This is something our useless leaders are apt to do. Defer, deflect, prevaricate from making tough decisions.

India is a poor country

Indeed, so is Pakistan a poor country. So what is the differance? Well India excels at everything Pakistan does. We have poor in Pakistan. India distills it to altogaeher another level. I mean it takes it to epic levels that knocks the "oh" out of you. That applies across the board. Where Pakistan is poor neighbourhoods in India that is multiplied in intensity and quantity to mind bending levels. You already know about the epic poverty, endemic filth and hideousness that is prevalent in many states of India like Chatisgarh, Jharkhand, Bihar, Orrisa, Madya Pradesh and other huge states that would drown all of Pakistan combined.

Furthermore you know I have around for long time. This poverty in India was even more widespead, even more of biblical proportions until as late as turn of century. Probably 1/4 of India was in state of semi nakedness. Now I have no problem with this. My ancestors were not exactly well of either although poverty as we know it our part of Pakistan and India is entirely differant.

But what irritates me is as millions of these semi naked starving runts got their first fill of food and covered their bodies with "Jhalvar KameeJ" which soon enough they claimed as having worn since time began started to lecture Pakistani's about "Shining India" and "beggar Pakistan" or "failed Pakistan".

It this haughtiness coming from recovered famine stricken peoples that annoys me. It is then I am forced to remind them that few might have climbed over the bones of the 100s of millions rib cage hungry that most of their country is still swamped in poverty. Thus pictorial reminders of Indian's pulling rickshaws like mules. That clearly jars with the picture they paint. Because no human being would elect to earn bread by making draft animal unemployed. That shows the desperation of these people. That says it all to me.

Now you know I live in UK. I come across starved or addicted people also. They will sell their bodies for "drink or fags". But these examples cannot be used to dam British society as they are cases of individuel failure. We will always have such examples.

However you know millions of Indian's are employed in pulling rickshaws like animals. That is not rare case of cherry picking. No, lady that is phenomenon. That can be used as reflection on Indian society and state. I go to Pakistan almost every year. I do not see anybody in the area I travel widely (NW) in such a state that they will do these things to earn bread. Even IDPs from FATA. I travel from North West Peshawar to North East to Lahore and I don't see anything even approaching such filth or poverty.

I don't go to south or Karachi so maybe other members can fill that space but even if there is absolute poverty it will never match the epic levels in India.

And I reiterate. I don't enjoy making fun of poor people. Deep down I am a socialist. It is the continous annoying bragging and making referance to "Shining Mining Mars India" refrain with "failed Pakistan" that too often elicits my reaction.
 
India and Pakistan both "muck around" in the internal affairs of each other. This is fact. The only surprise here is if they did not. The real issue here is not external support but why there groups within each country that is open to outside help or more specifically connive with external enemy. That's the issue that needs addressing.
Yes, its a fact but lets face it Pakistan has more to gain by poking its nose into India's affairs.


Furthermore you know I have around for long time. This poverty in India was even more widespead, even more of biblical proportions until as late as turn of century. Probably 1/4 of India was in state of semi nakedness. Now I have no problem with this. My ancestors were not exactly well of either although poverty as we know it our part of Pakistan and India is entirely differant.
Ever been to India?
Nah, its not that I am desperate to show you around. Just that your comparison sounds very superficial and illogical.
Not that I expected anything better.
Now you know I live in UK.
And that your arrogance knows no bounds..
I go to Pakistan almost every year. I do not see anybody in the area I travel widely (NW) in such a state that they will do these things to earn bread. Even IDPs from FATA. I travel from North West Peshawar to North East to Lahore and I don't see anything even approaching such filth or poverty.
Well, i meet many Pakistanis like you on daily basis, but unlike you they think India is a better country to live in(comparatively!). Okay may be they are not talking about the number of people living below poverty line.


So my point was...
on one side ppl like you claim India is poor and on the other side your fellow countrymen assume India sponsors terror agencies in Pakistan. Contradictory!!!
isnt it? how can India even afford such luxury? lol



I have a "Real Life " beyond internet. :p:
Did you say REAL? lol
 
GSMD



Ps. Since the discussion has descended to acronyms, I might as well through mine in.

your verbal diarrhea is not going to change one single thing. Pakistan will continue to burn because people like you mislead and spew BS. You will post this today, like you did five years ago and will do the same 10 years later. Going in circles until the fire consumes you for good.

And @Atanz since we're going down that way, you and your country deserves it too. Now you GSMD.
 
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The real question is this: Is this process being repeated, and if so, what is Pakistan doing to avoid it?

Hi,

The problem with pakistan right now is a prime minister----who is gutless---the other problem with pakistan right now is that its air force has gone into selling fighter aircraft and not preparing to fight a war---.

Now---about patahankot air base-----indians need to ask their govt---WTF were those BEER BELLIES doing to protect the base---.


See---this base attack is such a big drama----it is such a fake that the americans have told the indian to take a hike----.

A supposedly pakistani trained terr and does not know how to attack---and only 2 people dead inthe attack and the defenders were weaponless and then those got their---their bellies were bigger than their chest---.

This was a drama well written for an indian movie----. If it took 6 days to clear these nincompoop terrs from the base who did not know where the aircraft were located-----what would happen when the real ones strike----.
 
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