India`s Fake War in the Himalayas? By INDIAN CADET 10/24/2005

[HASEEB66]

IT WAS NOT MEANT TO OFFEND ANYONE...

 

[Adux]

TO BULL AND SWORD9 SO WHEN THE INDIANS KEEP TALKING ABOUT THEIR LOST WARS IN 65 48 AND 99 DID THAT HAPPEN ONE HOUR AGO...AND PKEASE LEARN THE SPELLING OF "BALOCHISTAN" ....JUST GIVE ONE PROOF OF ANY ATROCITY IN BALOCHISTAN...DON'T GIVE INTERNET LINKS MADE UP BY INDIANS...and give videos like we provide on kashmir....and bull shaab i asked you to reply because i wanted to diskiss....and have fun...anyways thanks for replying...

Ok Indian Links are Bad when it says good about India, But when it says Bad about India it is ok, like you have provided in all your India bashing threads.
Go read up Global security and CIA factbook, they will tell you who won 48,65,71 and 99. This is the last time i will reply to you Haseeb, Reason being, you are so skewed and Narrow minded, You dont see the hypocirsy in yourself.

 

[sword9]

TO BULL AND SWORD9.......AND PKEASE LEARN THE SPELLING OF "BALOCHISTAN" ....

Buddy learn about your nation before embarassing yourself.
Balistan also known as Baltistan, is in Pakistani Jammu & Kashmir, its main administrative centre is Skardu.

JUST GIVE ONE PROOF OF ANY ATROCITY IN BALOCHISTAN...

I am not interested in getting into arguments.

DON'T GIVE INTERNET LINKS MADE UP BY INDIANS...and give videos like we provide on kashmir....

You get those videos because we are a more open society, we don't torture or kidnap journalists. See one example below....

http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=18103
Geo TV correspondent Mukesh Rupeta and assistant cameraman Sanjay Kumar were freed on bail today after being held secretly since 6 March 2006, probably by Pakistani military intelligence agents.

 

[PakSniper]

You get those videos because we are a more open society, we don't torture or kidnap journalists. See one example below....

But you do torture and Kidnap,. regular Kashmiri people. I can provide you video of those (even though i'm sure you can find alot on your own from youtube).

I am not interested in getting into arguments.

It's cause you can't provide any proof to make an argument., unlike where we have video's and documented proof available, for you people to see, but what use is that since you people reject it even with facts in your faces.

Don't make baseless claims if you can't back them up.

I know alot of kashmiri people in Pakistan and here in the US,. who come from Azad Kashmir and very happy, and never complained, I can gurantee you they are treated very nicely their, and provided for.

Unlike your Army (700,000) to control a piece of land, why so much, cause I bet you know they'll break away (even people from Indian held Kashmir I know here hate India to the core).

Also,. not no country is perfect, even US has Human rights abuse reports against it an Amenity International reports so bickering at this issue isn't going to solve anything,. but 1 thing is for sure India does torture and Kidnapping and Illegal killing far beyond what Pakistan does. At least we don't have our side of Kashmir rising up and killing security personal, it's funny how you can't recognize when a group of people numbering 9 Million don't like you, but you guyies can keep having wet dreams.

 

[Spring Onion]

It has already been reported all around in the Media both domestic and foreign. And i guess the accused in the first case have been found guilty and the trial in the other cases are progressing. That being said, its a sign that the India has accepted and taken note of the situation.

Now what more do you ant to discuss?

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=447516

Oh bull thanks u had accepted that there are atrocities being committed against Kashmiris by Indian Army and there should be no sham in accepting that as wrong is wrong.


Lemon was talking about open society in India saying that was why the videos are out.

No sir it has nothing to do with open society, its all about Media people and being from Media i know they dont care whther it will harm their country they are just in search of some stiring news so it leads to opening up of most of the infromation arround the world even in strict societies also.

 

[sword9]

But you do torture and Kidnap,. regular Kashmiri people. I can provide you video of those (even though i'm sure you can find alot on your own from youtube).

Don't expect anyone to take Sandra Jordan's documentary seriously. Its one sided and biased.

It's cause you can't provide any proof to make an argument., unlike where we have video's and documented proof available, for you people to see, but what use is that since you people reject it even with facts in your faces.

Don't make baseless claims if you can't back them up.

Relax, you want videos I'll give you live action videos, not interviews like Sandra Jordan. By the end of the week you shall have it, as I get some spare time.

I know alot of kashmiri people in Pakistan and here in the US,. who come from Azad Kashmir and very happy, and never complained, I can gurantee you they are treated very nicely their, and provided for.

Unlike your Army (700,000) to control a piece of land, why so much, cause I bet you know they'll break away (even people from Indian held Kashmir I know here hate India to the core).

Also,. not no country is perfect, even US has Human rights abuse reports against it an Amenity International reports so bickering at this issue isn't going to solve anything,. but 1 thing is for sure India does torture and Kidnapping and Illegal killing far beyond what Pakistan does. At least we don't have our side of Kashmir rising up and killing security personal, it's funny how you can't recognize when a group of people numbering 9 Million don't like you, but you guyies can keep having wet dreams.

Maybe the videos will change your mind. Wait for the weekend.

 

[Adux]

Webby,

I really would like you to take care of trolls, it takes a unwanted toll on good posters like Bull, Sword, Niaz etc

 

[Bull]

Oh bull thanks u had accepted that there are atrocities being committed against Kashmiris by Indian Army and there should be no sham in accepting that as wrong is wrong..

well dont act kiddish. Show me an Indian over here who hasnt accepted that. We have accepted it already, it you and your few mates who cannot get over it.

No sir it has nothing to do with open society, its all about Media people and being from Media i know they dont care whther it will harm their country they are just in search of some stiring news o.

You mean you are one among them.

 

[sword9]

yeah give videos but not the kind one foreign journalist going where ever indian army takes him as they like unlike on our side of the boorder where they can roam about free at will..and ask anyone anything

I am not posting videos of India, but the ones from Pakistan. The "dragonking786" claimed that I had made fabricated allegations on atrocities/ genocide in Balistan (a.k.a Baltistan or Balwaristan). Incidently he does not know where Baltistan is and accused me of mis-spelling Balochistan.

I did not want to get into this mudslinging contest but he needs to be answered.

 

[sword9]

To dragonking786,
See below a video of actions in Balochistan.The Baloch Battlefield

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[PakSniper]

To dragonking786,
See below a video of actions in Balochistan.The Baloch Battlefield

But you changed the subject where I asked for artocities commited by Pakistan in the Balistan region, all I was able to find was some stupid Human right abuses,. nothing about killings going on unlike Kashmir (Indian Held)!! And as I said before every country has a Human Rights Abuse reported stamped on his ***,. but Pakistan doesn't have atrocities like you do. So show me where it says' were killing people in Balistan which we are talking about, not Balochistan (because that is a different case), aganist a person who is challengin the writ of the govt.
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I am not posting videos of India, but the ones from Pakistan. The "dragonking786" claimed that I had made fabricated allegations on atrocities/ genocide in Balistan (a.k.a Baltistan or Balwaristan). Incidently he does not know where Baltistan is and accused me of mis-spelling Balochistan.

I did not want to get into this mudslinging contest but he needs to be answered.

The region is divided between India and Pakistan. The districts of Skardu (Skardo) and Ganche) which is a part of Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (Azad Kashmir), is a disputed territory claimed by both India and Pakistan, but controlled by Pakistan, a de facto federal dependency of Pakistan administered directly from Islamabad; its main town is Skardu. It contains the highest peaks of the Karakoram, including K2. Indian Baltistan (the district of Kargil) is located in the north of the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir.

It's easy pointing fingers at others,. why don't you start looking at your own problems,. I believe you have 30 sepertist groups you need to take care of, and civilian kidnapping and raping army. Atleast our part of Kashmir isn't up in arms to split.

 

[Spring Onion]

I am not posting videos of India, but the ones from Pakistan. The "dragonking786" claimed that I had made fabricated allegations on atrocities/ genocide in Balistan (a.k.a Baltistan or Balwaristan). Incidently he does not know where Baltistan is and accused me of mis-spelling Balochistan.

I did not want to get into this mudslinging contest but he needs to be answered.

Lemon ji Baltistan or Balochitsan both are not on UN resolutions unlike Indian Occupyed Kashmir.


if for that matter u had at all taken it for worrying you must take care of two dozen insurgencies in India including Naga land, Bodo, or Assam

 

[Adux]

Lemon ji Baltistan or Balochitsan both are not on UN resolutions unlike Indian Occupyed Kashmir.


if for that matter u had at all taken it for worrying you must take care of two dozen insurgencies in India including Naga land, Bodo, or Assam

No you are wrong, Both territories claimed by India in Azad Kashmir and Pakistan in IOK are under the UN resolution. Why India doesnt make much hue and cry about it cuz it is ready to make the LOC the border. I hope you understand there is a difference between Insurgency and plain old goonda groups

 

[PakSniper]

No you are wrong, Both territories claimed by India in Azad Kashmir and Pakistan in IOK are under the UN resolution. Why India doesnt make much hue and cry about it cuz it is ready to make the LOC the border. I hope you understand there is a difference between Insurgency and plain old goonda groups

Now you need to open your eyes,. and see things more clearly.

Mushy offered to India joint rule over Kashmir => India refused.
Let Kasmir decide by votes, etc => India refused.

You people just want to keep the territory and don't care about the people if they die or not.

Everyone of Musy's proposals were shot down by India, where as the world community saw it positively even the US. So their is only one country at faulty and that was India. As our foreign office said,. we never claimed Kashmir but wanted the people to represent themselves.

“First of all Pakistan doesn’t claim Kashmir. The Kashmir dispute is about the aspirations of the Kashmiri people,” said Foreign Office spokesperson Tasneem Aslam at a weekly media briefing here. “We never claimed Kashmir to be an integral part of Pakistan. What we said is that the Kashmiris should be able to decide their future. We hope they would opt for Pakistan … this is what they have been saying,” she said.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/print3.asp?id=4698

Has India taken any moves like these, "NO".

 

[Adux]

Now you need to open your eyes,. and see things more clearly.

Mushy offered to India joint rule over Kashmir => India refused.
Let Kasmir decide by votes, etc => India refused.

You people just want to keep the territory and don't care about the people if they die or not.

Everyone of Musy's proposals were shot down by India, where as the world community say it positively even the US. So their is only one country at faulty and that was India.

My reply was to Jana regarding the status of territories controlled by Pakistan which belonged to the ertswhile princely state of jammu and Kashmir for Un resolutions.
It has nothing to do with Kashmir peace process or anything. I dont care for anything, just this one inch of indian land wont be given, if they dont like it they can go to pakistan, wasnt that the whole intention for the creation of pakistan, Indian government has already given up a lot by conceding Azad Kashmir as pakistani territory and it has no interest in it. I think the buck should stop there.
Now dont come harping on me for all this, THis is just my opinion and it has the only value of a vote, I am sure there are other Indians who think otherwise, but i am not one of them
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