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India remains a rising power despite its COVID-19 tragedy: Arab News

I say those big big words because I have proposed a new economic system in this thread, a system that is meant to replace the traditional money system. My contribution towards Communism. Also, I have for some years been designing a microprocessor and its operating system. So I have the right to talk about these topics other than being general human. That is my present contribution. Plus I almost created an employee union in an ITES company ( Indian ) I worked in some years ago and I almost joined one of the public Indian leftist parties.



As I said, name me one OS written in India. Oh, I don't want that BOSS ( Bharat Operating System Solutions ) which is just an Indian distro of Linux ( by CDAC ).

The OS I use is called Slax Linux which is a Dutchman's Linux distro that can boot off a USB pen drive. Nothing to do with Infosys or its other Indian IT comrade companies.

These Indian IT companies should stop being code monkeys and start being ambitious.



Ah, the eternal Indian middle class life cycle, living an artificially troubled life, being isolated from the social, economic and political problems in their society until... until the problems come into their life. Like how it is happening now - the COVID and Black Fungus thing. People dying needlessly and even after death they not being given dignity.

Why should putting basic food on the table, putting children through school and getting a house need a paycheck ? Why can't those things be a free human right provided by the system, like in socialist / communist countries ? Why do you want to live an artificially, avoidably troubled life ? Indians should demand for such an idea.

why should 'one' OS be written in India? When Microsoft has written several parts of it's OS systems in India over the years through companies like infosys? Yes, the idea is to keep increasing middle class so that fewer people have issues.
And as for your contributions to economic theory etc. you pointed out, I wonder with so many contributions to failed causes you haven't been nominated for an igNobel yet
 
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It's the same number china had in 2005. So you accept it was pi$$ poor in 2005 and with more than half the pop living under 2$, China continues to be poor today.
Not to forget also 4th largest homeless population in the world
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Arabs have always licked India's boots. Sad to say but look at Palestinian's "Founding Father" Arafat's own statements about India and Pakistan, or Nasser of Egypt etc etc. The list goes on and on. People have a very emotional and short span of view as it comes to history.
Arabs have a cultural contempt for the whole subcontinent given the history

Their temporary statements on either India or Pakistan are based on current geo-political situation and needs
 
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why should 'one' OS be written in India? When Microsoft has written several parts of it's OS systems in India over the years through companies like infosys?

Good joke.

So not even a single Indian OS apart from a vague statement from you about MS Windows having Indian contributions. What are these ? Are these parts of the OS' kernel ( which is the main part of the OS ) or perhaps its GUI ?

Google says that there is a Microsoft R&D center in Noida. So what stops these "researchers", at least a dozen, from exiting Microsoft and setting up their own company which has its own new-type OS product ? Something to rival Windows, Linux, QNX, BeOS etc.

In 2010 the then chief of DRDO, VK Saraswat declared that the organization was working on a "futuristic", world-class operating system :
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is working on creating a futuristic computing system, including India's own operating system, said V.K. Saraswat, Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister and DRDO Director-General.

Talking to journalists after inaugurating the DRDO Transit Facility here on Saturday, Dr. Saraswat said: “We do not have our own operating system. Today, various bodies, including banks and defence establishments, need security. Having our own operating system will help us prevent hacking of our systems.”

Two software engineering centres are being set up for this purpose in Bangalore and New Delhi. “To start with, we will have 25 scientists at each of these centres. We are in touch with institutes such as the Indian Institute of Science, Indian Institute of Technology Madras and the Centre for Development of Telematics, besides universities and industries. We will use available talent.” Citing security reasons, he refused to provide details of organisations involved in the project.

The new operating system would also have commercial use, he said and added: “With a home-grown system, the source code will be with us and it helps in securing our systems,” he said. Asked about the money involved for the project and the timeframe, Dr. Saraswat said it was fairly a costly affair, without elaborating on the timeframe.
Two years later the number of scientists and engineers on the project had grown from 25 to 150 :
To thwart cyber attacks and ensure security of networks, the Defence Research and Development Organisation is developing its own operating system, said V.K. Saraswat, its Director-General.
The Indian operating system will take a couple of more years to become operational. About 150 engineers and scientists of the defence organisation and academic institutions have been working for the past year-and-a-half on the project, he said on the sidelines of an international conference on navigation and communication here today. “The system will ensure that we are independent of what's happening outside and ensure the safety of our own networks,” he said.

Earlier, in a special address at the two-day conference, he said cyber security and network security have become important in view of the increasing number of attacks and threats. India is short on hardware systems in communication, he said.

The Indian industry has to chip in, in a big way to reduce foreign dependence. While the defence organisation has a large development programme, the fabrication and manufacture of key components and systems has to happen in the private domestic sector, Saraswat, scientific adviser to the Raksha Mantri said.
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somasekhar.m@thehindu.co.in

Published on December 20, 2012
Eleven years now since the start of the project, where is the "futuristic" operating system from DRDO ? What have those 150 people achieved ? Have they even a block diagram of OS and a list of some system calls of the kernel ? What processor / platform will it run on ?

Yes, the idea is to keep increasing middle class so that fewer people have issues.

But why do you need to have economic classes in the first place ? If you bother to read my thread I have eliminated economic classing - rich, middle, poor.

And as for your contributions to economic theory etc. you pointed out, I wonder with so many contributions to failed causes you haven't been nominated for an igNobel yet

Even with my igNobel I will still be better than those hundreds of MBAs and 160,000+ computer engineers churned out every year in India. :)

Not to forget also 4th largest homeless population in the world
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Sure, every Indian family lives like the houses in the American suburbs :

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We will totally forget Ambani's 27-storey "house" in Bombay while just nearby that obscene building there will be many homeless and slum-dwellers.
 
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Sure, every Indian family lives like the houses in the American suburbs :

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We will totally forget Ambani's 27-storey "house" in Bombay while just nearby that obscene building there will be many homeless and slum-dwellers.

Kya miya socialist se sidha capitalist??
 
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No, I admire the American suburbs housing arrangement. Clean and calm. Their cities however seem mostly in shambles.
Do you know America has 3 times the lass mass of India, with 1/5th of Indian population??

This is in Gurgaon..
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Do you know America has 3 times the lass mass of India, with 1/5th of Indian population??

India has enough land mass. The cities and villages can be decongested thus :

1. Development of scientifically and aesthetically planned satellite townships around current cities and these new urban centers were to have Vertical Farms ( VF ) and general Urban Farms ( UF ) to ensure food security and major self-sufficiency.

2. The older cities, after having removed of much population through# 1, their neighborhoods can be aesthetically and scientifically redeveloped by inclusion of above farming methods and each prior housing plot / compound can be enlarged doubly ( each prior 30x40 feet site enlarged to include the adjacent emptied site ) with compulsory garden with one tree at least and footpath and broad roads between opposing houses which not only be natural and harmonious but also a place the citizens can run to in case of earthquake ( most of the deaths in the Nepal earthquake happened because of building collapses and no wide roads ).

3. There should be an according employment system, whether in VF / UF or in computing, in aerospace, through 3D Printing, chemicals industries etc.

4. In the current rural landscape there can be new townships created and the population of ten current villages can be gathered and transferred into each new township. The current farmers in these new townships can be trained to be employed in Vertical Farms and Urban Farms, and in other employment. The townships should have all the amenities that current cities have, like shopping malls. There should be no previous village culture existing anymore.


Nice project but is it available to all ? Such projects will be present in the old and new financial and tech hubs too like Pune, Bangalore and Hyderabad.
 
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Good joke.

So not even a single Indian OS apart from a vague statement from you about MS Windows having Indian contributions. What are these ? Are these parts of the OS' kernel ( which is the main part of the OS ) or perhaps its GUI ?

Google says that there is a Microsoft R&D center in Noida. So what stops these "researchers", at least a dozen, from exiting Microsoft and setting up their own company which has its own new-type OS product ? Something to rival Windows, Linux, QNX, BeOS etc.

In 2010 the then chief of DRDO, VK Saraswat declared that the organization was working on a "futuristic", world-class operating system :

Two years later the number of scientists and engineers on the project had grown from 25 to 150 :

Eleven years now since the start of the project, where is the "futuristic" operating system from DRDO ? What have those 150 people achieved ? Have they even a block diagram of OS and a list of some system calls of the kernel ? What processor / platform will it run on ?



But why do you need to have economic classes in the first place ? If you bother to read my thread I have eliminated economic classing - rich, middle, poor.



Even with my igNobel I will still be better than those hundreds of MBAs and 160,000+ computer engineers churned out every year in India. :)



Sure, every Indian family lives like the houses in the American suburbs :

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We will totally forget Ambani's 27-storey "house" in Bombay while just nearby that obscene building there will be many homeless and slum-dwellers.

of course we built the Kernel. By continuing to be capitalist we will live like that. By becoming socialist we will live on the streets.
 
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Because India has the largest slum population on the planet

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haha, fake data again?, any travelers been to China cities, even poorest tier 4/5 cities, never see any slums like in India like Bombay has lots of them

China so called 'slum dweller' in Indian eyes and standards are living in single house garden villa or mansion

It's the same number china had in 2005. So you accept it was pi$$ poor in 2005 and with more than half the pop living under 2$, China continues to be poor today.

China continues to be poor today :rofl: :rofl:

Indians stupidity, self bragging and self delusions right there

if China today is poor, then all Indians are Slumdog beggars
 
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Not to forget also 4th largest homeless population in the world
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Arabs have a cultural contempt for the whole subcontinent given the history

Their temporary statements on either India or Pakistan are based on current geo-political situation and needs

what bullshit wikipedia number Indian trolls use now :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

China has more homeless population than India? what a joke? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
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India remains a rising power despite its COVID-19 tragedy

DR. JOHN C. HULSMAN

21 May 2021

As the sublime British novelist E.M. Forster put it in his masterpiece, “A Passage to India,” regarding life on the subcontinent: “Adventures do occur, but not punctually.” Put in today’s political risk terms, the analytical danger is to look at India’s tragic problems of today, but not at the enduring changes lying beneath the surface that will continue to make it the greatest rising power in the world over the next generation.
Just this week, India recorded the single highest daily death toll (4,529) of any country during the pandemic — and that figure is generally thought to be a gross under-reporting. According to Johns Hopkins University, there have been more than 25 million reported coronavirus disease (COVID-19) cases in India. The rightist, populist, Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi has been rightly taken to task for its earlier triumphalism, having not adequately prepared the country for the more virulent second wave of the pandemic that is now hitting it. Vaccination rates lag worryingly behind much of the rest of the world, as little more than 10 percent of India’s population has received at least one jab of a COVID-19 vaccination.
Modi’s critics would assert that the present pandemic debacle amounts to just the BJP’s most recent bungled administrative effort. Earlier failed rollouts of banknote demonetization in 2016, service tax reform in 2017, and agrarian reform this year all point in the same direction for the BJP’s foes: Like many other populist forces around the world, it has proven itself good at winning elections, but far less good at actually governing.
However, lurking just beneath the surface of this tale of tragedy and misgovernment, a very different — and more essential — story appears. For, despite its real and obvious troubles, there is little doubt that India remains the greatest rising power on the planet. It has a number of fundamental political, economic and demographic strengths that will make it self-evidently one of the most powerful countries in the world.
First, India’s political power structure is remarkably stable. Surprising most of the foreign policy commentariat (but in line with my firm’s political risk predictions), the BJP actually gained seats during the May 2019 national parliamentary elections. Modi’s party decisively won 37 percent of the total vote and 303 of the lower house Lok Sabha’s 545 seats, up 21. The main opposition Congress party, under the lackluster leadership of Rahul Gandhi, came in a distant second, with 21 percent of the overall vote and only 52 seats. At the local level, a decisive two-thirds of India’s often-powerful state governments are run by the BJP or its allies. Modi’s continued leadership of India has been overwhelmingly vindicated.

The reasons for the “surprising” result are actually clear cut. Congress under Gandhi — the indifferent, latest scion of the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty — is merely a shadow of its former self. Modi’s BJP ran an effective, modern, data-driven campaign, running rings around its opponents. More worryingly, Modi’s continued appeal to Hindu nationalism (which at times morphed into Hindu chauvinism) in this very diverse country continues to strike a chord with the Hindu majority (comprising about 80 percent of the overall population). For all these reasons, both Modi and the BJP are politically secure in a way that other developing countries can only envy.
Coupled with these political advantages, India’s demography affords it a mighty relative advantage. It is projected to surpass China as the world’s most populous nation by 2024. Crucially, more than 50 percent of India’s population is below the age of 25 and 65 percent is under the age of 35. In 2020, the average age in India was 29, compared to 37 in rapidly aging China and 48 in elderly Japan. All of this data underlines the key economic reality that the country is uniquely set to enjoy a generation’s-worth of booming catchup growth, even as it is surrounded by aging great powers such as the EU, Russia, Japan, the US and China.
India’s economic numbers, too often obscured by the story of the day, simply do not lie. By 2050, it is estimated that India will account for a startling 15 percent of global gross domestic product (GDP). Coming out of the COVID-19 economic abyss, the subcontinent is set for a golden era of renewed growth. While India’s GDP (as was true of most of the rest of the world) cratered by 8 percent in the pandemic-dominated year of 2020, the International Monetary Fund estimates India’s economy is on course to grow by an impressive 11.5 percent this year (the only major global economy predicted to experience double-digit growth) and 6.8 percent in 2022.
Long-term political stability and an economic and demographic liftoff already in progress make the essentials of India strikingly clear. This is the rising power in today’s world — one that will only grow in importance as the years progress. Assuredly, there will often be chaos in the headlines and on the surface but, beneath this tumult, India’s enduring and essential political risk trajectory is decisively favorable. India’s adventures may not occur punctually, but they will undeniably come to pass.
  • Dr. John C. Hulsman is the president and managing partner of John C. Hulsman Enterprises, a prominent global political risk consulting firm. He is also senior columnist for City AM, the newspaper of the City of London. He can be contacted via chartwellspeakers.com



dushmano ko burnol ke sath .:cheers:
 
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Indians really believe India has less homeless population than China? lol.

India has the largest number of poverty in the world.

India per captia is $1947.


 
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of course we built the Kernel.

1. Prove it with an article or with details from someone you know who worked on this.

2. Even if that is true then those kernel writers could have used their learning from that experience, quit Microsoft and started their own company which could have developed its own new-type OS to rival Windows, Linux, QNX, BeOS etc. This I have already said. And this OS would have been the first full-fledged, fully Indian OS. Wouldn't that have been a proud Indian contribution to the world ?

3. Why didn't these mythical Infosys kernel-writers collaborate with the DRDO's years-old "futuristic" OS project ? In fact why didn't DRDO involve these people in their already 150-scientist-and-engineer team ?

By continuing to be capitalist we will live like that. By becoming socialist we will live on the streets.

1. Sure, everyone in pre-2011 socialist Libya was living on the streets. :rolleyes:

2. India has been an extremely capitalist country for the last 3000 years. How is India doing ?

3. So India's residential areas are like those American suburbs ?
 
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So not even a single Indian OS apart from a vague statement from you about MS Windows having Indian contributions. What are these ? Are these parts of the OS' kernel ( which is the main part of the OS ) or perhaps its GUI ?

they did but unimpressive/useless/dated . the one below BOSS OS failed to stay put with the expectations & no further updates have been made in the past two years. try to experiment at your own risk :yahoo:

Bharat Operating System Solutions (BOSS Linux) is a Linux distribution developed by Center for development of Advanced Computing(C-DAC). BOSS Linux is a key deliverable of NCRFOSS. It has enhanced Desktop Environment integrated with Indian language support and other software.

it is ok when I tested it on my machine but no support or further security updates are available. BOSS doesn't enjoy any added advantage against the multitude of distros out there. if the govt comes up with fork of gnome 2 or even optimise MATE for Indian conditions, i believe the product will be success. but BOSS that began as a vanity project in UPA era is today a necessity because one cannot rely on big corporate to provide you security and safety in a economy that is increasingly digitised especially in the face of random threats of ransomware
 
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