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[jamahir]

@Ghost Hobbit @Syama Ayas, please stop embarrassing the sensible people in India in front of an international audience. Stop being so hyper-nationalist. India has structural problems, let us adopt progressive policies and ideology and remove those problems and be an exemplar country.

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

@Ghost Hobbit @Syama Ayas, please stop embarrassing the sensible people in India in front of an international audience. Stop being so hyper-nationalist. India has structural problems, let us adopt progressive policies and ideology and remove those problems and be an exemplar country.

you don't have to be a hyper nationalist to call socialism stupid. It's called having common sense. And any country that adopts liberal market reforms rises. That's just a fact. COVID isn't gonna stop it.

 

[jamahir]

you don't have to be a hyper nationalist to call socialism stupid.

Why is Socialism or Communism stupid ? Can you describe in simple words ?

And I told you yesterday, even a Western bloc / NATO country like Spain has nationalized its healthcare system in 2020 and made healthcare free for all citizens. What is India's excuse not to follow that ?

It's called having common sense.

Sure, common sense is so common in India, especially in these internet times.

People thopping themselves with cow dung to prevent COVID and Akshay Kumar daily drinking gaumutr ( so why did he contract COVID ? And was gaumutr used to cure him ? ) and people doing "Thaali bajao, Corona bhagao" and people lighting diyas for 9 minutes at 9 PM on Modi's call because "Mars' astrological effect will be activated for social wellness" etc etc. Very common sense indeed.

And any country that adopts liberal market reforms rises. That's just a fact.

Yet 350,000+ Indian farmers committed suicide just between 1995 and 2015 because of socio-economic reasons after "market reforms".

COVID isn't gonna stop it.

Did BJP IT Cell tell you to spread "Positivity" on PDF ?

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

Why is Socialism or Communism stupid ? Can you describe in simple words ?

And I told you yesterday, even a Western bloc / NATO country like Spain has nationalized its healthcare system in 2020 and made healthcare free for all citizens. What is India's excuse not to follow that ?



Sure, common sense is so common in India, especially in these internet times.

People thopping themselves with cow dung to prevent COVID and Akshay Kumar daily drinking gaumutr ( so why did he contract COVID ? And was gaumutr used to cure him ? ) and people doing "Thaali bajao, Corona bhagao" and people lighting diyas for 9 minutes at 9 PM on Modi's call because "Mars' astrological effect will be activated for social wellness" etc etc. Very common sense indeed.



Yet 350,000+ Indian farmers committed suicide just between 1995 and 2015 because of socio-economic reasons after "market reforms".



Did BJP IT Cell tell you to spread "Positivity" on PDF ?

can you tell me in simple words the country it actually worked? 'Nationalizing' a handful of sections is not socialism.

 

[jamahir]

can you tell me in simple words the country it actually worked?

USSR, Libya, DPRK ( North Korea ), Cuba, Venezuela, I am sure others like Albania, Syria and Iraq.

'Nationalizing' a handful of sections is not socialism.

But it is a beginning, to see sense.

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

USSR, Libya, DPRK ( North Korea ), Cuba, Venezuela, I am sure others like Albania, Syria and Iraq.



But it is a beginning, to see sense.

Nonsense. Healthcare is treated as a specific case in most parts of the world. No one is in a hurry to nationalize Banks or tech companies.

 

[313ghazi]

can you tell me in simple words the country it actually worked? 'Nationalizing' a handful of sections is not socialism.

The UK has free healthcare. I can confirm it works 100% well.

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

The UK has free healthcare. I can confirm it works 100% well.

nationalizing healthcare is not socialism. Everyone treats healthcare as special case. And yes, outside small countries like UK, even healthcare nationalizaion has been pathetic.

 

[jamahir]

Nonsense. Healthcare is treated as a specific case in most parts of the world.

1. In USA you need to have insurance.

2. What about basic food, housing, water, electricity, communication, education and public transport ?

No one is in a hurry to nationalize Banks or tech companies.

1. Why should private banks even exist ? And why should they have any other services other than maintain a person's / company's account and provide loans when needed ? They should certainly have no "products" that the so many Indian private banks "so graciously" offer.

2. What has been the contribution to humanity of huge Indian tech companies like Infosys, TCS, HCL etc ?

 

[313ghazi]

nationalizing healthcare is not socialism. Everyone treats healthcare as special case. And yes, outside small countries like UK, even healthcare nationalizaion has been pathetic.

A quick google search would fix your misconceptions.

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

1. In USA you need to have insurance.

2. What about basic food, housing, water, electricity, communication, education and public transport ?



1. Why should private banks even exist ? And why should they have any other services other than maintain a person's / company's account and provide loans when needed ? They should certainly have no "products" that the so many Indian private banks "so graciously" offer.

2. What has been the contribution to humanity of huge Indian tech companies like Infosys, TCS, HCL etc ?

when you get a country of your own go ahead and open your socialized banks and insyrance companies.

As for TCS/ HCL- they have created JOBS that pulled millions into middle class, helped build technologies that run almost everything including the forum you're posting on.

A quick google search would fix your misconceptions.

Highly unlikely

 

[jamahir]

when you get a country of your own go ahead and open your socialized banks and insyrance companies.

I meant to say that having a health insurance system is a rubbish concept. There are so many Americans who can't afford treatment, can't afford to pay some health insurance company yet the American government is spending 934 billion dollars as its military budget for 2020-21. So it's a structural defect there like in India.

As for TCS/ HCL- they have created JOBS that pulled millions into middle class, helped build technologies that run almost everything including the forum you're posting on.

TCS, HCL, Infosys and even Wipro created no technological contribution for the world.

I don't know how you are extrapolating the code monkeys working there to have created the technologies that run this forum.

Name me a single operating system and a single microprocessor designed by the few hundreds of thousands of computer engineers from those companies.

 

[Ghost Hobbit]

I meant to say that having a health insurance system is a rubbish concept. There are so many Americans who can't afford treatment, can't afford to pay some health insurance company yet the American government is spending 934 billion dollars as its military budget for 2020-21. So it's a structural defect there like in India.



TCS, HCL, Infosys and even Wipro created no technological contribution for the world.

I don't know how you are extrapolating the code monkeys working there to have created the technologies that run this forum.

Name me a single operating system and a single microprocessor designed by the few hundreds of thousands of computer engineers from those companies.

sure. Saying big big words and sitting at home typing all this nonsense is so much better right?

Lots of the OS software and systems software is written in India, the stuff you use to type your holy pronouncements,

It's called 'having a job', the most important thing in the world. Gives a paycheck, food on the table, puts children through school and gets a house,

 

[jamahir]

sure. Saying big big words and sitting at home typing all this nonsense is so much better right?

I say those big big words because I have proposed a new economic system in this thread, a system that is meant to replace the traditional money system. My contribution towards Communism. Also, I have for some years been designing a microprocessor and its operating system. So I have the right to talk about these topics other than being general human. That is my present contribution. Plus I almost created an employee union in an ITES company ( Indian ) I worked in some years ago and I almost joined one of the public Indian leftist parties.

Lots of the OS software and systems software is written in India, the stuff you use to type your holy pronouncements,

As I said, name me one OS written in India. Oh, I don't want that BOSS ( Bharat Operating System Solutions ) which is just an Indian distro of Linux ( by CDAC ).

The OS I use is called Slax Linux which is a Dutchman's Linux distro that can boot off a USB pen drive. Nothing to do with Infosys or its other Indian IT comrade companies.

These Indian IT companies should stop being code monkeys and start being ambitious.

It's called 'having a job', the most important thing in the world. Gives a paycheck, food on the table, puts children through school and gets a house,

Ah, the eternal Indian middle class life cycle, living an artificially troubled life, being isolated from the social, economic and political problems in their society until... until the problems come into their life. Like how it is happening now - the COVID and Black Fungus thing. People dying needlessly and even after death they not being given dignity.

Why should putting basic food on the table, putting children through school and getting a house need a paycheck ? Why can't those things be a free human right provided by the system, like in socialist / communist countries ? Why do you want to live an artificially, avoidably troubled life ? Indians should demand for such an idea.

 

[TigerOfMysore]

So now arabs are licking hindus now.

Arabs have always licked India's boots. Sad to say but look at Palestinian's "Founding Father" Arafat's own statements about India and Pakistan, or Nasser of Egypt etc etc. The list goes on and on. People have a very emotional and short span of view as it comes to history.