India pulls out of hockey event in Pakistan on security grounds

[shelly]

Pakistan has hosted tournaments with international countries since 2009. Yeah parts of KPK and Balochistan aren't exactly safe, but if you look at the india insurgency thread you'll see the same issue.

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Its diferent . boxing, baseball, palestinian , iranian sportsmen are all below radar and they will not have desired impact.

Hocky , cricket, football, gora guys coming to play are all lucrative targets and likely to cause bigger imapct

 

[Dance]

right, like attacking Palestinian and Iranians would be great for their cause. or attacking low value sport events. you seem to have all the answers with your " but but India" parity you always seek. Go ask the other countries why they go to India and not Pakistan . Go ask them why outside pakistan nobody considers India have the same parity in terms of terrorism issues like Pakistan. The only people in the world who think India's terrorism problem is at equal foot holding with Pakistan are you folks.

Sorry super power bharat is the safest country on earth

all of this is just a myth: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/51262-indias-insurgency-problem.html

Have there been mass terrorist attacks in india as there have been in Pakistan in the past ? No

But are parts of india pretty dangerous and have there been bombs blown up in your major cities? Yes

 

[Ignited Mind]

Just politics and drama from the indian side:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/curren...-foreign-golfers-confirm-lahore-presence.html

Pakistan has hosted international tournaments since the 2009 attacks.

Cool. What about the Malaysians, genius? What politics is going on over there between Malaysia and Pakistan?

Two pages on, Pakistanis are still selectively blaming India. Nobody seems to have a clue as to why the MALAYSIANS PULLED OUT TWO DAYS EARLIER THAN THE INDIANS DID.

...classic case of Pakistanis blaming India for all their woes and not being able to accept that there's something seriously wrong with their country.

 

[Dance]

Good...Keep doing more of that and you will prove a point...Though i have my reasons to be a little skeptical about the teams involved and the face value of the tournaments as such but at the end an international tournament is an international tournament...



That is where the problem lies...You guys want to out past behind where as international community(not just India) is not...we have insurgency problems or not is not a factor here...Years after years we have conducted events without any fuss....right now IPL5 is going on..This is the same event which was under the scanner of scum bags for a while....Anyhow let's not divert our attention here...Look this is the same venue where Sri Lankan's were attacked and this is the same venue which was relatively safer than KPK and Balochistan even at that time....I have already explained few points in the post above...Please check it out...

That was bad security lapse on Pakistan's part and the Sri Lankan team came at a time where bomb blasts were frequent.

Security has improved a lot ( in Punjab and Sindh) and I can't even remember the last time a bomb went off or something bad happening in Lahore (the place where the Sri Lankan cricketers were attacked)

 

[Ammyy]

Sorry super power bharat is the safest country on earth

all of this is just a myth: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/51262-indias-insurgency-problem.html

Have there been mass terrorist attacks in india as there have been in Pakistan in the past ? No

But are parts of india pretty dangerous and have there been bombs blown up in your major cities? Yes

We can understand your frustration ...

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[deckingraj]

Sorry super power bharat is the safest country on earth

all of this is just a myth: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/51262-indias-insurgency-problem.html

Have there been mass terrorist attacks in india as there have been in Pakistan in the past ? No

But are parts of india pretty dangerous and have there been bombs blown up in your major cities? Yes

Dude....get over it...Years after years we have conducted major tournaments without any fuss...You have failed to do so...Now stop defending a topic which you cannot...There is going to be a long time before any meaningful international sport is going to come to Pakistan...Period....

For once i can understand you guys putting politics as far as India is concerned(which is again ridiculous because relations b/w us has improved considerably) but Malaysia??? What sort of politics they have against you???

Look Sri Lankan govt. took lot of risk in accepting your request...This would have been a major PR for show casing that Pakistan authorities are competent enough to carry games without incident but what you guys did??? You failed miserably!!! This is a hard core fact and will not change just because you want to forget the past at your own convenience...

 

[Ignited Mind]

That was bad security lapse on Pakistan's part and the Sri Lankan team came at a time where bomb blasts were frequent.

Security has improved a lot ( in Punjab and Sindh) and I can't even remember the last time a bomb went off or something bad happening in Lahore (the place where the Sri Lankan cricketers were attacked)

May be you're right. However, what you fail to explain is the incompetence of your police which seems to be sole reason keeping the international players away.

I mean who will risk his or her life for the hollow assurances of a police force which can't prevent the head of a UN designated terror org. from holding a rally dang in front of the Pakistani parliament, that when there is an order proscribing him from doing so.

...what explains such incompetent policing and why should anyone put his or her life in the lne of fire based only on such incompetent policemen?


...and my question regarding the politics behind the Malaysians pulling out is still unanswered.

 

[deckingraj]

That was bad security lapse on Pakistan's part and the Sri Lankan team came at a time where bomb blasts were frequent.

Security has improved a lot ( in Punjab and Sindh) and I can't even remember the last time a bomb went off or something bad happening in Lahore (the place where the Sri Lankan cricketers were attacked)

Bomb blasts were not frequent in Lahore..This is the argument that you guys are putting forward...You guys are saying that western sector has trouble but not lahore...I extended the same argument the Lahore was relatively safer even then...

Now you can easily put things under the carpet by calling it a mistake however people outside Pakistan are not willing to risk the lives of their loved one's to may be another mistake...As said - You requested Sri Lanka to come and play cricket there....That was a time when nobody wanted to play in Pakistan...It was utmost critical for you not to let anything bad happen...and what you guys did..YOU FAILED MISERABLY....In fact you left Sri Lankan govt. embarrassed and red faced....

 

[Dance]

Bomb blasts were not frequent in Lahore...
.

Yes they were. They might have not been as frequent as compared to bomb blasts in Peshawar but they happened!

 

[shelly]

Sorry super power bharat is the safest country on earth

all of this is just a myth: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/51262-indias-insurgency-problem.html

Have there been mass terrorist attacks in india as there have been in Pakistan in the past ? No

But are parts of india pretty dangerous and have there been bombs blown up in your major cities? Yes

I will tell you the main difference...

Has there been terror attacks in india yes.. they all come from Pak and aimed at innocent cilians and in places where there is no or negligible security. When there is an event like CWG or WC or any other intl event, we can easily provide security focused for that event and they have been successes and touchwood not yet penetrated. People form other countries trust the security cuz they know that indian establishment is anti trror etc.

In Pak, they cannot trust security because it may turn out that the very guard proteecting them may be a trrorist or have some grievance. They know that parts of Pak establishment and govt agencies are the roots of trror and encourage trror. thats why people have lost the trust factor on pak. this needs t change, only then you can compare ind and pak on this matter.

 

[Icewolf]

The great shupar power India can do anything!

 

[Ignited Mind]

I will tell you the main difference...

Has there been terror attacks in india yes.. they all come from Pak and aimed at innocent cilians and in places where there is no or negligible security. When there is an event like CWG or WC or any other intl event, we can easily provide security focused for that event and they have been successes and touchwood not yet penetrated. People form other countries trust the security cuz they know that indian establishment is anti trror etc.

In Pak, they cannot trust security because it may turn out that the very guard proteecting them may be a trrorist or have some grievance. They know that parts of Pak establishment and govt agencies are the roots of trror and encourage trror. thats why people have lost the trust factor on pak. this needs t change, only then you can compare ind and pak on this matter.

Pakistani police is just not enough to make international sportsmen risk their lives for the word of Pakistani policemen.

The great shupar power India can do anything!

What about Malaysia?

 

[JayAtl]

Sorry super power bharat is the safest country on earth

all of this is just a myth: http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/51262-indias-insurgency-problem.html

Have there been mass terrorist attacks in india as there have been in Pakistan in the past ? No

But are parts of india pretty dangerous and have there been bombs blown up in your major cities? Yes

who you trying to convince? nobody is listening on the other end . The world adores India and loves to come to play in India. You can scream , whine ,cry us a river but is it going change the perception ? there is no parity here. You make your bed and you lie in it. There is no double occupancy with India anymore.

 

[Ignited Mind]

...I am still waiting for the answer to my two questions I have raised in my earlier posts.

 

[deckingraj]

Yes they were. They might have not been as frequent as compared to bomb blasts in Peshawar but they happened!

and yet you invited Sri Lanka to play cricket?? Are you saying that even though Lahore was not safe yet you risked lives of Sri Lankan just to prove a point?? Look how ridiculous this argument of you is sounding...lahore was pretty much clean...Bomb blast has happened in Delhi, Mumbai and many other major cities of India...yet we call them relatively safe...The same argument can be extended to Lahore...however your security forces failed to protect international team from an audacious attack even after sweating a lot to convince them to play they in the first place...A failure on such a massive scale and amzingly you guys have the nerve to wrap repercussions as political stunt which has nothing to do with security???

When asked multiple times the logic behind Malaysia backing out then you chose to ignore...Comon let's for once stop playing this victim card and use logic...this will become damn easy!!!