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India no match for China on social indicators: Amartya Sen

Jan 7, 2012

Pune: India is not a match for neighbouring China when it comes to social development indicators, eminent economist and Nobel laureate Amartya Sen has said.

“There is a huge gap there (on social front) as China is one of the best performers in terms of social indicators,” Sen said while speaking at the Indian Economic Association convention here.

Making an assessment of the Indian economy and the benefits that have percolated down the social sector, he said, “India’s disadvantage can be seen even in comparison with countries that are doing far less well than China, but still a lot better than India.”

While India has been overtaking other countries in the progress of its real income, it has been lagging behind others in terms of basic social indicators of quality of life, he said. In fact, India is being overtaken in these respects

by many other countries even within the region of South Asian itself, he added.

He said India’s average ranking among six South Asian economies (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal and Bhutan) has “fallen from being the second best to being second worst and this is so despite the fact that India has grown immensely faster than all other economies in South Asia in terms of GNP or Gross Domestic Product (GDP).”

The relation between economic growth and advancement of living standards depends on many factors. One of them is what is done with the public revenue that is generated by economic growth, said Sen who won the 1998 Nobel Prize for his contributions to welfare economics.

wow,I really dont know that part of the story.
 
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Indian Society is alot more complex not to mention india more corrupt and the caste system isn't helping.
 
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being the biggest weapon importer in the world,India should put some more money for the well being of its citizens.foreign weapons are very expensive.
 
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I will be traveling to India soon and will observe many social Issue such as the caste system other things including the slums.

To watch the slums better go to China, India would be a small place for that thing.

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174 Million Chinese Live in Slums more than any country in the world. Superpower China also has SuperSlum. :lol: :lol:
 
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To watch the slums better go to China, India would be a small place for that thing.

That is a 2007 chart, and even then we still score better than you in percentage terms. :lol:

Besides there is a serious qualitative difference.

Slums in China have toilets and electricity, those in India do not.
 
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Rural poverty in India

India’s most striking feature is its diversity. The country’s population of about 1.2 billion people is composed of several ethnic groups, speaking more than 1,000 languages and following six major religions. With an annual population growth rate of 1.4 per cent, India is projected to become the most populous country in the world by 2035.

With 33 per cent of the world’s poor people, 41.6 per cent of India’s population lives on less than US$1.25 a day. Based on the country’s new official poverty lines, 42 per cent of people in rural areas and 26 per cent of people in urban areas lived below the poverty line in 2004/05. Official poverty estimates for 2009/10 are not yet available, but preliminary estimates suggest that the combined all-India poverty rate was 32 per cent, compared with 37 per cent in 2004/05.

India ranks 134 out of 187 countries on the United Nations Development Programme’s 2011 Human Development Index – a comparative measure of life expectancy, literacy, education and standards of living for countries worldwide.

A total of 72 per cent of India’s population lives in rural areas, and 10 per cent of rural households are reported to be landless. Agricultural wage earners, smallholder farmers and casual workers in the non-farm sector constitute the bulk of poor rural people. Within these categories, women and tribal communities are the most deprived. About 300 million young people ages 13 to 35 live in rural areas, and most of them are forced to migrate seasonally or permanently, without the skills and competencies required by the modern economy that India is rapidly becoming.

Poverty is deepest among members of scheduled castes and tribes in the country's rural areas. On the map of poverty in India, the poorest areas are in parts of Rajasthan, Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Jharkhand, Orissa, Chattisgarh and West Bengal.

Large numbers of India's poorest people live in the country's semi-arid tropical region. In this area, shortages of water and recurrent droughts impede the transformation of agriculture that the Green Revolution achieved elsewhere. There is also a high incidence of poverty in flood-prone areas, such as those extending from eastern Uttar Pradesh to the Assam plains, and especially in northern Bihar. Poverty affects tribal people in forest areas, where loss of entitlement to resources has made them even poorer. In coastal fishing communities, people’s living conditions are deteriorating because of environmental degradation, stock depletion and vulnerability to natural disasters.

Despite recent economic growth, poverty levels have not been reduced at the same pace. Poor rural people continue to live with inadequate physical and social infrastructure, poor access to services, and a highly stratified and hierarchical social structure, characterized by inequalities in assets, status and power.
 
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That's true. China has set an example of development. Slowly but firmly India is on its way.
 
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That is a 2007 chart, and even then we still score better than you in percentage terms. :lol:

Besides there is a serious qualitative difference.

Slums in China have toilets and electricity, those in India do not.

Slum is a slum and not a Five Star Hotel as you are claiming. :lol: I have seen pictures of dirty Chinese slums. 174 Million people living in slums a country with double digit growth rate. Holy Sh!t. :cheesy:
 
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Slum is a slum and not a Five Star Hotel as you are claiming. :lol: I have seen pictures of dirty Chinese slums. 174 Million people living in slums a country with double digit growth rate. Holy Sh!t. :cheesy:

Here is the difference. :wave:

The World's 25 Dirtiest Cities - Forbes.com

Mumbai and New Delhi are considered two of the dirtiest cities in the world. Meanwhile, not one single Chinese city makes that list.

There is a reason that film about the "Mumbai millionaire" was made in India and nowhere else. :azn:
 
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More of world's poor live in India than in all sub-Saharan Africa, says study
New UN index replaces simpler method of calculation

Jason Burke in Delhi
Wednesday 14 July 2010

There are more poor people in eight states of India than in the 26 countries of sub-Saharan Africa, a study reveals today.
More than 410 million people live in poverty in the Indian states, including Bihar, Uttar Pradesh and West Bengal, researchers at Oxford University found. The "intensity" of the poverty in parts of India is equal to, if not worse than, that in Africa.

When the vast central Indian Madhya Pradesh state, which has a population of 70 million, was compared with the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the war-racked African state of 62 million inhabitants, the two were found to have near-identical levels of poverty.

The study is based on an innovatory "multidimensional poverty index", or MPI, developed by specialists at Oxford. To be used for the first time in the authoritative and influential United Nations Human Development Report when it is published this autumn, it will replace a simpler method of calculating poverty introduced over a decade ago.

The index uses 10 major variables including access to good cooking fuel, schooling, electricity, nutrition and sanitation. "[It] is like a high-resolution lens which reveals a vivid spectrum of challenges facing the poorest households," said Dr Sabina Alkire, director of the Oxford Poverty and Human Development Initiative and a co-developer of the index. "Before, you might know a person was poor but did not know if their children went to school, if they had a floor or if they cooked on wood."

The survey found that in Madhya Pradesh poverty levels were higher because of malnutrition. In Congo, access to schooling was a problem.
The study's conclusions will reinforce claims that distribution of the wealth generated by India's rapid economic growth – recently around 10% year on year – is deeply unequal. The prime minister, Manmohan Singh, has repeatedly said he wants to see "inclusive" development.

Poverty has long proved difficult to define. The World Bank bases its definition on household income and estimates that a quarter of the developing world lives on $1.25 (85p) a day or less. However, relying simply on money "excludes everything that is outside the cash economy and doesn't look at issues such as housing [or] access to safe water" said William Orme, a spokesman for the United Nations Development Programme in New York. "The new index gives us a much fuller portrait."
To compile the index, researchers analysed data from 104 countries with a combined population of 5.2 billion, 78% of the world total. About 1.7 billion – a third - live in multidimensional poverty, they found. This is 400 million more than are estimated by the World Bank to be in "extreme" poverty. The new index is also designed to track variations within countries much better. So while the poverty rate is more than 80% in the rural state of Bihar, it is about 16% in the southern state of Kerala.

Some countries have dropped steeply down the poverty rankings in the new list. Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan and Morocco were found to have much more poverty under the new index than when using simple household income. Others, such as Tanzania, Nicaragua, Uzbekistan, Vietnam and China were found to have less. China was ranked 46 out of 104, three places behind Brazil. India came in 63rd, just after Togo but ahead of Haiti.

"In many cases, it is probably linked to previously high levels of social investment," Alkire said. "It shows that a low per capita GDP income doesn't necessarily mean high poverty."A second index to gauge poverty in developed nations is now planned.
 
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