India must help Afghanistan build its military might to counter bullying Pakistan

[shah1398]

ok then give them 5000 tanks 500 helicopters 500 fighter jests 20000APCs and AFVs 20000 missiles 200 nukes 1 million strong solders and officers10000 artillery guns 200 UAVs and UCAVs do not forget to give them 10000 anti tank missiles and 10000 SAMs .also give them shear of your half ballistic and cruse missile scoptile to afghans . or better idea split your forces in half and give them to afghans

So Sir U want to re-equip Afghan Taliban??? U know what i mean

 

[A-Team]

no imran bhai the deal is already under way to give ANA all the remaining indian Mi35 hinds some 250 105mm arty guns and some 200-300 T72 tanks and same ammount of IFVs and some SAMS and ATGMs (around 500 in total each)

Do you have any source for this? The donated Mi35 are making significant difference in the battle field this year turning the Tali spring offensive into a Burka offensive so any more Mi35 in addition to these other weaponry would be great help.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Do you have any source for this? The donated Mi35 are making significant difference in the battle field this year turning the Tali spring offensive into a Burka offensive so any more Mi35 in addition to these other weaponry would be great help.

dont have the source but keep watching as things unfold you will be more than happy about indian assitence in making ANA even more stronger

 

[volatile]

Indeed very true ,Why dont you host 3 Million Plus Afghans also for 30 Years .this way they can be avoided by bullying in Pakistan as well ?

SOURCE: Maj. Gen. (Retd) G D Bakshi/ ENS

A new phenomenon is becoming the norm in Asia. Militarily strong nations like China and Pakistan have taken to bullying weaker neighbours, usually over disputed border/territorial claims on land and sea. China has been constantly bullying Vietnam, the Philippines and Indonesia over islands in the South China sea. Pakistan has joined the club by being over-bearing on Afghanistan. At play is a dynamic of ‘might is right’.

Afghanistan has never recognised the Durand Line that separates it from the Pashtun areas of Pakistan, taking it to be an imperial construct designed to divide the nomadic tribes. Traditionally, they have freely moved across this border, whose porosity was later exploited by the CIA and ISI to push across 80,000 mujahideens to fight the Soviet Army in 1979. Post the Soviet withdrawal, Maj. Gen. Naseerullah Babar of the Pakistan Army raised the Taliban for a proxy conquest of Afghanistan. Pakistan sent in its regular troops in Mufti to operate tanks and artillery, and overawe the Farsiwans. Nawaz Sharif and his generals later entered Kabul like some war heroes. Mullah Omar of the Taliban gave refuge to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda. He married Laden’s daughter and Afghanistan became the base for al-Qaeda’s operations.

After the 9/11 attacks, Pakistan was forced to cooperate with the US in dismantling the Taliban and al-Qaeda. Pakistan went along for some time, but as soon as US attention shifted to Iraq, it began to aid the Taliban insurgency. It swindled the US of $31 billion and yet kept Laden in a safe house. The US began re-raising the Afghan National Army (ANA). Pakistan demanded that the ANA be given no tanks, artillery or heavy weapons. Clearly, Pakistan was looking ahead to the time when the Americans would withdraw from Afghanistan. By 2014, the US had expended huge amounts of blood and treasure in Iraq and Afghanistan. It wanted to turn around to face a rising China and extricate from Afghanistan, but not in a messy way. So, it wanted the Pakistani Army to launch operations in FATA to put pressure on the Taliban and afford the US Army and NATO forces a clean break. Gen. Raheel Sharif earned a great deal of American gratitude for Op Zarb-e-Azb. As part of the arrangement, the US forces virtually handed over Afghanistan to Pakistan as its protectorate. India was asked to clear out. The Abdul Ghani government cancelled requests to India for supply of weapons and equipment. Pakistan was given the task of brokering peace talks between the Taliban and Kabul regime. It, however, had a dangerous end game in mind—to re-instal Taliban in Kabul and turn the clock back to 2001.

Pakistan did not deliver on the talks with Taliban. Instead, it covertly helped the latter stage major attacks in 2015 and 2016. The US seemed to be losing patience with Pakistan. Finally, it killed Taliban leader Mansour with a drone strike in Baluchistan. The US Congress cancelled the subsidised deal of selling eight F-16 fighters to Pakistan and stopped major payments for counter-insurgency operations.

As part of border management, Pakistan now decided to fence the Durand Line. Its fencing was bound to be a red rag to the Afghans. Soon border skirmishes broke out. On June 13, heavy firing erupted at the Torkham Gate where the Pakistanis were building a huge gate to check entry of Afghan citizens. In the firing, two Afghan soldiers and a Pakistani Major were killed. Over 20 soldiers were wounded on both sides. Pakistan rushed in its tanks and heavy guns to overawe the ANA (which just had small arms). Talks were started and firing stopped for the time being. No agreement, however, has been reached to resolve the crisis. Pakistan has expressed its determination to fence the Durand Line, and this could lead to more clashes on the Af-Pak border. Is the Pakistani design to draw out the ANA a ploy to help the Taliban? What then are India’s options?

• Rapidly do capacity building of the Afghan army, so that it has a military edge over the Taliban and can defend its territory against Pakistan’s incursions.

• Complete the Chabahar-Zaranj-Delaram road and beltway via Iran. Till then, supply tanks, artillery guns, attack helicopters and trainer jets via Russia.

• Once the Chabahar beltway opens up, it can supply large numbers of T-54/T-55 tanks and 105 mm field guns lying in our depot stocks and salvage yards.

Pakistan cannot be allowed to bully the long-suffering Afghanistan. The Afghans are a proud people and must be given the means to defend themselves.Should the situation deteriorate on the Durand Line, India could activate the LoC in J&K and give Pakistan a taste of its own medicine in terms of the use of artillery or heavy weapons. At least this will raise costs for Pakistan’s terrorism export and take the pressure off the beleaguered Afghan Army.

http://idrw.org/india-must-help-afghanistan-build-military-might-counter-bullying-pakistan/

 

[Areesh]

dont have the source

Phir tu kehta hai main troll nahi karta. Fitta muh

 

[A-Team]

First give afghanistan an economy otherwise your tejas will be sold in afghai londa Bazaar. Currently 3 billion $ is the amount which is sutainining ill equiped armed forces. Hashish is the main export of afghanistan and you want to arm a afghan soldier who might be high on hashish and flying tejas or rampaging in Arjun BRAVO.

Rather than fantasising first wish for Afghanistan to survive for next decade as for now afghan government has no authority outside kabul. As for now as Afghanistan needs to be saved from itself first.

You are right in a sense that economic stability is the cornerstone of any military buildup and it will be a couple of years before AF economy is sustainable but geopolitical considerations of partners such NATO / US and others make sure that we receive the military hardware and the money to sustain these until we can stand on our own feet. It is remarkable that the ANSF is successfully defending the country against a conglomerate of terrorists and proxies when the bulk of international forces is gone.

India is an important partner of Afghanistan and as long as GHQ policies of not taking AF sovereignty seriously and projecting power via proxies it does compile AF to look any sources to pressure GHQ in making a pivot. Indian help does up the ante but hey you can't beg for peace

 

[GURU DUTT]

Phir tu kehta hai main troll nahi karta. Fitta muh

ok sirji dont trust me and see what happens

 

[Areesh]

ok sirji dont trust me and see what happens

Dekh raha hun teri harkatain. Phir ban ho jaye ga to rona nahi.

 

[SecularNationalist]

ok then give them 5000 tanks 500 helicopters 500 fighter jests 20000APCs and AFVs 20000 missiles 200 nukes 1 million strong solders and officers10000 artillery guns 200 UAVs and UCAVs do not forget to give them 10000 anti tank missiles and 10000 SAMs .also give them shear of your half ballistic and cruse missile scoptile to afghans . or better idea split your forces in half and give them to afghans

Yea that,s what these india loving afghan parasites need to counter pakistan.

 

[BetterPakistan]

Yeah India should give billions of dollars equipment to afghanistan so that afghanistan may be able to counter afghan taliban first and after that they are welcome to engage us at borders.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Dekh raha hun teri harkatain. Phir ban ho jaye ga to rona nahi.

ye kaise gair munasib too tarak , aaria-jaaria type ki zubaan istemaal ker rahe hain aap janaab ,... ..... janab gustakhi mauf per mujhse se yoon nafrat na karo

 

[Areesh]

ye kaise gair munasin too tarak , aaria-jaaria type ki zubaan istemaal ker rahe hain aap janaab ,... janab mai jo kehta hoon kuch soch samjh ke kehta hoon aur aksar log meree baat ko kharij ker dete hai afvah samjh ke per akhir me wahi sach nikalta hai jo mai keh raha thaa ..... janab gustakhi mauf per muhe se yoon nafrat na karo

Seedhi baat hai. Yeh soft trolling ziada nahi chalai gi. Insan ban. Bharati na ban.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Seedhi baat hai. Yeh soft trolling ziada nahi chalai gi. Insan ban. Bharati na ban.

jaan ki amaan paaoon saeen ji to arz kerne ki ijaazat chahoonga aap yakeenan ek martial race shahista isnaan hain per mai to hoon hi ek pal*** short dark evil bharat waasee mujhe pe rehem karen

 

[Areesh]

jaan ki amaan paaoon saeen ji to arz kerne ki ijaazat chahoonga aap yakeenan ek martial race shahista isnaan hain per mai to hoon hi ek pal*** short dark evil bharat waasee mujhe pe rehem karen

Seedhi si baat hai. No more soft trolling.

 

[A-Team]

dont have the source but keep watching as things unfold you will be more than happy about indian assitence in making ANA even more stronger

I think the NUG has decided to call the GHQ's bluff because even with significant outreach from Ashraf Ghani there were negligible changes in GHQ's policies vis-a-vis Afghanistan. This change in policy is going to make life more difficult for Afghans but until and unless GHQ realizes that its proxies are not going to win this in the battlefield and the policies of supporting them means more pain to Pakistan in terms of AF / International partners reactions and further isolation there won't be any significant changes in Pak establishment polices.

Now the million dollar question is that although the US / NATO is committed to AF security in terms of multibillion dollar assistance every year ( they consider AF security and integrity determinantal to their security ) is India going to come out full throttle and provide massive assistance in terms of military hardware, and economic assistance until AF can stand on her feet? Indian must make this bold decision that in order for her to project power as regional and global power she needs to shed the current approach and go full throttle in supporting her partners.

3 Mi35 are fine but what we need is as @GURU DUTT mentioned in his post, that will make a strategic difference.