India must help Afghanistan build its military might to counter bullying Pakistan

[saiyan0321]

Oh come on even Indians would say that the article is written by a child. Many posters would have more geopolitical sense. Yea you can give them weapons and all that but in what world are we bullying Afghanistan. In fact we have been doing our best to cut of the free flow of people from Afghanistan which led to fencing which led to toekham issue where they fired upon us.

May the writer be reminded that they escalated thing by calling their Soviet era tanks and 2 division of their armed forces ( that's 50000 men which is a quarter of their army) to torkham forcing Pakistan to answer back. Bullying would have been had we escalated it and captured cities in that conflict but we kept our cool realizing that its a child. Their media ran a war show telling their people that Pakistan was invading Afghanistan which anybody that followed even one post on this forum in that thread would know it's bull. We stayed matured and we are the bully.

They continuously question our existence at lengths that India can only dream about. As for peace mullah mansour was pro peace which was the reason the afghan Taliban had a split along with successor issues, and we kept telling ANA that they will not come to the table unless you get some gains on ground and not loose districts. This year when poppy fields were blossoming and the crop was great, Taliban freely forced the people to pay crop tax and themselves earned a hefty amount due to controlling many districts at Helmand.

Anyhow the writer is clearly extremely ignorant of geopolitical issues and I would love to see the source where america agreed or we even said that ANA should not have any weapons or even when they left it as our protectorate since they were training ANA for some time.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

The game is already begun so just wait for 1 decade see by ur self

Alright !!! India and Afghanistan will becum supa dupa powa after one decade and then squeeze Pakistan from both sides....
Pakistan is ready and not gonna give up......

 

[GURU DUTT]

NSG failed indian minds are high on weed these days . look like all the stocks of alcohol finished in india . it nationwide sad days everyone is high . we never mind

no imran bhai its actually good for us in the long run as we already got NSG waiver to do nuclear trade and get any latest nuclear and daul use technologies from any meber of NSG and by this china has given us moral freedom to treat it openly as a enmy nation and get and give support to its enemy nation so whose loss was it ..... well as they say always the weak third party is made a scapegoat in eventual truce between two major powers now you decide which is the weak third party between india and china

aur rahi baat alcohal ki to dilli aao to sahee khud aap bhee pareshaan ho jaoge ki itnee daaru kaise aur kahan se mil jaate hain hindustan me

 

[Windjammer]

Its the same nation and same army which was sliced into half in 1971 by Indian Army. ......right ??

Back in 1971 you were most probably in pampers, i highly doubt you are still running around in them

You surely have memory disorder. I recommend you to take Sankh-Pushpi, two tea spoon twice a day.

Well, same could apply to you since you seem oblivious to the fact that, unlike India, Pakistan wasn't fighting from home.
I suggest you dig into some history lessons....2002 and 2008 are interesting years.

 

[enquencher]

Indians are with afgan brothers openly for development and covertly for military development.
@A-Team

And what i understand afgan military is getting help from india only large weapons not given ..but have started with helicopters.

 

[SrNair]

Why didnt he mention India in this list and only mentioned islands? Ofcourse all those Chinese incursions into India were no bullying at all .

Bullying only happens if the other nation is a weak one ?
There for Pakistan find Afghanistan and China find SCS nation .
Both of them wont dare to touch India .

And in Chinese case ,when you send a company in to your southern neighbour land if that neighbour sends 3 battalion that can easily overpower aggressor ,you cant call them as a weak nation.

 

[shah1398]

Bullying only happens if the other nation is a weak one ?

Sir then what should we call Chinese incursions into Indian territories?

 

[SrNair]

Sir then what should we call Chinese incursions into Indian territories?

Chinese incursion news will make headlines because we are a democracy .But Indian incursion wont make news because CCP wont allow that in their nation.

 

[NALANDA]

Back in 1971 you were most probably in pampers, i highly doubt you are still running around in them

Well, same could apply to you since you seem oblivious to the fact that, unlike India, Pakistan wasn't fighting from home.
I suggest you dig into some history lessons....2002 and 2008 are interesting years.

You mean to say that East Pakistan was not home? What stopped you attacking from west Pakistan? In 1971 I was in pampers but for sure know that INDIAN ARMY created a new country in 1971 and made YOUR ARMY surrender shamelessly.

You have certainly been fed a "convenient" history prepared by intellectuals wearing boots.

Your army lost even after 1971 . Siachin / Kargil and will continue to do every time. but in your text book, you will learn a different history as usual.

 

[Jaanbaz]

If Pakistan wanted to bully Afghanistan, half of ANA would have been wiped out under an hour. Afghanistan fed by its past ego and racial hatred against Pakistanis attacked Pakistani checkpoints, they actually think they can defeat Pakistan lol. Afghans only understand the language of gun, just give them a big danda and see their false pride melt, even their GF India would not want to lose their life for Afghans.

 

[GURU DUTT]

instead of chest thumping and bullying poor afghans pakistani government first should try to put fear in hearts of people like that mullah of lal masjid

 

[Areesh]

India should give Afghans Brahmos. Nothing less would be enough

 

[Silent_Killer]

SOURCE: Maj. Gen. (Retd) G D Bakshi/ ENS



A new phenomenon is becoming the norm in Asia. Militarily strong nations like China and Pakistan have taken to bullying weaker neighbours, usually over disputed border/territorial claims on land and sea. China has been constantly bullying Vietnam, the Philippines and Indonesia over islands in the South China sea. Pakistan has joined the club by being over-bearing on Afghanistan. At play is a dynamic of ‘might is right’.

Afghanistan has never recognised the Durand Line that separates it from the Pashtun areas of Pakistan, taking it to be an imperial construct designed to divide the nomadic tribes. Traditionally, they have freely moved across this border, whose porosity was later exploited by the CIA and ISI to push across 80,000 mujahideens to fight the Soviet Army in 1979. Post the Soviet withdrawal, Maj. Gen. Naseerullah Babar of the Pakistan Army raised the Taliban for a proxy conquest of Afghanistan. Pakistan sent in its regular troops in Mufti to operate tanks and artillery, and overawe the Farsiwans. Nawaz Sharif and his generals later entered Kabul like some war heroes. Mullah Omar of the Taliban gave refuge to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda. He married Laden’s daughter and Afghanistan became the base for al-Qaeda’s operations.

After the 9/11 attacks, Pakistan was forced to cooperate with the US in dismantling the Taliban and al-Qaeda. Pakistan went along for some time, but as soon as US attention shifted to Iraq, it began to aid the Taliban insurgency. It swindled the US of $31 billion and yet kept Laden in a safe house. The US began re-raising the Afghan National Army (ANA). Pakistan demanded that the ANA be given no tanks, artillery or heavy weapons. Clearly, Pakistan was looking ahead to the time when the Americans would withdraw from Afghanistan. By 2014, the US had expended huge amounts of blood and treasure in Iraq and Afghanistan. It wanted to turn around to face a rising China and extricate from Afghanistan, but not in a messy way. So, it wanted the Pakistani Army to launch operations in FATA to put pressure on the Taliban and afford the US Army and NATO forces a clean break. Gen. Raheel Sharif earned a great deal of American gratitude for Op Zarb-e-Azb. As part of the arrangement, the US forces virtually handed over Afghanistan to Pakistan as its protectorate. India was asked to clear out. The Abdul Ghani government cancelled requests to India for supply of weapons and equipment. Pakistan was given the task of brokering peace talks between the Taliban and Kabul regime. It, however, had a dangerous end game in mind—to re-instal Taliban in Kabul and turn the clock back to 2001.

Pakistan did not deliver on the talks with Taliban. Instead, it covertly helped the latter stage major attacks in 2015 and 2016. The US seemed to be losing patience with Pakistan. Finally, it killed Taliban leader Mansour with a drone strike in Baluchistan. The US Congress cancelled the subsidised deal of selling eight F-16 fighters to Pakistan and stopped major payments for counter-insurgency operations.

As part of border management, Pakistan now decided to fence the Durand Line. Its fencing was bound to be a red rag to the Afghans. Soon border skirmishes broke out. On June 13, heavy firing erupted at the Torkham Gate where the Pakistanis were building a huge gate to check entry of Afghan citizens. In the firing, two Afghan soldiers and a Pakistani Major were killed. Over 20 soldiers were wounded on both sides. Pakistan rushed in its tanks and heavy guns to overawe the ANA (which just had small arms). Talks were started and firing stopped for the time being. No agreement, however, has been reached to resolve the crisis. Pakistan has expressed its determination to fence the Durand Line, and this could lead to more clashes on the Af-Pak border. Is the Pakistani design to draw out the ANA a ploy to help the Taliban? What then are India’s options?

• Rapidly do capacity building of the Afghan army, so that it has a military edge over the Taliban and can defend its territory against Pakistan’s incursions.

• Complete the Chabahar-Zaranj-Delaram road and beltway via Iran. Till then, supply tanks, artillery guns, attack helicopters and trainer jets via Russia.

• Once the Chabahar beltway opens up, it can supply large numbers of T-54/T-55 tanks and 105 mm field guns lying in our depot stocks and salvage yards.

Pakistan cannot be allowed to bully the long-suffering Afghanistan. The Afghans are a proud people and must be given the means to defend themselves.Should the situation deteriorate on the Durand Line, India could activate the LoC in J&K and give Pakistan a taste of its own medicine in terms of the use of artillery or heavy weapons. At least this will raise costs for Pakistan’s terrorism export and take the pressure off the beleaguered Afghan Army.

Why india cant do it herself?

 

[Max Pain]

that would be fun,
Give it a try Indians, It'll make it easy for many In Pakistan who often fall for the delusion of muslim ummah when we say anything about Afghans hate for Pakistan.

 

[livingdead]

that would be fun,
Give it a try Indians, It'll make it easy for many In Pakistan who often fall for the delusion of muslim ummah when we say anything about Afghans hate for Pakistan.

India is already helping afganistan in rebuilding the country.. and training ANA .. what is new?