India is on the backfoot, International community is concerned about the situition in kashmir

[Maarkhoor]

Article 370 was a provision under Indian constitution made by Indian legislators way after UN declared Kashmir a disputed territory. It has nothing to do with Pakistan.


Even I can claim I will blow up Empire state building. I said what evidence do Pakistan have? Its you claiming Indian involvement and you have proof. Where are they?

We have evidences and another big monkey in our custody but not for public.

 

[scorpionx]

We have evidences and another big monkey in our custody but not for public.

Untill and unless you publish them to public all these are just fairy tales.

 

[Khafee]

Even I can claim I will blow up Empire state building.

The man from the land of fascist nazis speaks!

Untill and unless you publish them to public all these are just fairy tales.

You got your behind kicked royally on the 27th of Feb 2019. The world saw it.

Now feel free to twist in the wind and clutch at straws.

 

[BATMAN]

One of the two popular narratives floating is what you said. Please understand, discussing is not mediating. Kashmir still is a bilateral issue (Shimla agreement is still in effect) and abrogation of article 370 is still India's internal matter. No one so far has objected to these basic facts.


This is the problem. If you had evidence of Indian involvement in terrorism in Pakistan why don't you ever publish them? You have caught Kulbhushan Yadav. With his testimony you could have come up with concrete proof of Indian hands if any behind the unfortunate attacks that happened. But rest of the world just kept waiting and waiting. Nothing came except empty dossiers.

You are absolutely right.... it's Pakistan's own diplomatic and political failure.
Handing over evidence of terrorism to narendra modi in private was sooooooo stupid that all of foreign office should have been fired or the sensible ones should have resigned.

Even the case of Kulbhoshan was internationalized by Indians, no credit to Pakistani FO.

 

[scorpionx]

The man from the land of fascist nazis speaks!


You got your behind kicked royally on the 27th of Feb 2019. The world saw it.

Now feel free to twist in the wind and clutch at straws.

What exactly is your point? Do you even care to know the context?

 

[Khafee]

What exactly is your point? Do you even care to know the context?

The context is - Under BJP, india has turned into a Fascist Nazi state, that uses propaganda as a tool, to further its agenda.

The likes of you, buy it and then just senselessly keep parroting that crap.

 

[scorpionx]

The context is - Under BJP, india has turned into a Fascist Nazi state, that uses propaganda as a tool, to further its agenda.

The likes of you, buy it and then just senselessly keep parroting that crap.

Whatever I wrote so far in this thread has nothing to do with propaganda but basic facts. Deny them with logic if you have any or let me live in peace. Or if you just want to troll which you usually do here find someone else.Thank u.

 

[Enigma SIG]

Article 370 was a provision under Indian constitution made by Indian legislators way after UN declared Kashmir a disputed territory. It has nothing to do with Pakistan.

Anything to do with Kashmir has to do with Pakistan whether you like it or not. Running away from the problem isn't going to solve it. Heavy handed tactics will exacerbate the problem.

 

[Shane]

How do you know they did not anticipate this? From 1965 to 1999, Pakistan has left no stones unturned to internationalize Kashmir issue. You think going by your 'past records' it was not obvious that you would go to UN after abrogation of article 370? Whether this constitutional maneuver survives in court or not time will tell, but Kashmir remains a bilateral issue which can not be changed as Pakistan wanted it to be.

Apparently, your Modi's India has turned out to be just a sleaze bag full of Gao Rakshak Hindutwa loving extremists.

That these RSS low lives are using state terrorism to change the demography of Kashmir is no surprise.

I'm sure that you would agree that this is not the India Nehru envisaged as a Great nation that keeps it's word:

Whatever I wrote so far in this thread has nothing to do with propaganda but basic facts.

That's a complete fallacy and a lie.

India took Kashmir dispute to the UN. Yes/ No??? And you are a TT here?

How can it be just a bilateral issue according to you, what out standing logic.

 

[scorpionx]

Apparently, your Modi's India has turned out to be just a sleaze bag full of Gao Rakshak Hindutwa loving extremists.

That these RSS low lives are using state terrorism to change the demography of Kashmir is no surprise.

I'm sure that you would agree that this is not the India Nehru envisaged as a Great nation that keeps it's word:

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That's a complete fallacy and a lie.

India took Kashmir dispute to the UN. Yes/ No??? And you are a TT here?

How can it be just a bilateral issue according to you, what out standing logic.

Do you know anything about Shimla agreement? If not, give it a read once.

 

[Ali Tariq]

How long will we have to tolerate A Class BS from the land of Fascist Nazis?

Don't expect too much from PDF administration, just saw today that @MilSpec is unbanned and still have TTA title. Kuch nahi bane ga hum logon ka.
@I.R.A

 

[Shane]

Do you know anything about Shimla agreement? If not, give it a read once.

Oh, you remember it now, lol, did India remember that agreement when making disputed Kashmir a Union State?

Our bilateral agreements also say that a spy would not get the same treatment as a pow. Did it stop Modi from going too "International" CJ?

Funny you have such a lapsing memory.

Anyway, Simla? it's water under the bridge now, as in too late my dear TT. Modi-Shah made sure of it:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1161901365662117888

Anyway, @WebMaster @Horus @waz @The Eagle @Oscar @Arsalan @Dubious can't we have better TT s than RSS excusers in disguise?

 

[Ali Tariq]

can't we have better TT s than RSS excusers in disguise?

Don't forget Milspec, he is also an RSS sympathizer.

 

[scorpionx]

Oh, you remember it now, lol, did India remember that agreement when making disputed Kashmir a Union State?

Our bilateral agreements also say that a spy would not get the same treatment as a pow. Did it stop Modi from going too "International" CJ?

Funny you have such a lapsing memory.

Anyway, Simla? it's water under the bridge now, as in too late my dear TT. Modi-Shah made sure of it:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1161901365662117888

Anyway, @WebMaster @Horus @waz @The Eagle @Oscar @Arsalan @Dubious can't we have better TT s than RSS excusers in disguise?

If you have problem with me being TT, ask the authority in the right place.I have no problem getting stripped off this title. I have a far more better, healthy life outside.But at least learn how to debate properly. Kashmir became disputed in 1948. Article 370 came in 1954. You clearly had no idea about Shimla agreement. The constituent assembly that had to be consulted before any amendment of the article had long been dessolved. It is a complex legal matter and it has already been challenged in Supreme court. But that doesn't nullify the fact at all that Kashmir is still a bilateral issue. You have made Sino-Pak boundary agreement with the Chinese in '63 without any consultation with the Indians. Then came '65 and '99. Today all these big talks about ethics and morality doesn't suit you at all.
And regarding the qualification of being a tt, it is the uninformed clueless people like you have made this forum a gutter. I didn't ask to be a TT, if admin feel to strip it I will have zero effect in my life. Go ask in the appropriate place ie ghq and do whatever you want.

 

[SingHee]

I'm seriously concerned at what Indian posters think or believe when they bring up the Simla agreement, do they think Pakistan gave them a free hand on Kashmir or other abuses of international law? It's quite puzzling and rather sickening, in fact.

Anyway, the very first and second lines of the Simla agreement.

(i) That the principles and purposes of the Charter of the United Nations shall govern the relations between the two countries.

(ii) That the two countries are resolved to settle their differences by peaceful means through bilateral negotiations or by any other peaceful means mutually agreed upon between them. Pending the final settlement of any of the problems between the two countries, neither side shall unilaterally alter the situation and both shall prevent the organization, assistance or encouragement of any acts detrimental to the maintenance of peace and harmonious relations.

1. By making a change that will result in a change in demographics, India has violated (ii).

2. Furthermore, all relevant UN resolutions must be followed for (i).

It simply is no longer a bilateral agreement, with the only remaining piece being proof of a change in demographics, although that would be nothing more than academic when the spirit of the agreements, bilateral and international, has been abused.