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India Inks Defence Cooperation Pact With Mongolia

Yes we can use for Humint and electronic intel which is quiet difficult from south of china. Russia will never mind to use mongol to know more about China
Supplies can always be routed thru Russia. Russia always open to help in crisis for India. We can for sure rely on Russia than on USA.
 
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It is best for listening posts and intel groups for discreet intel collection but anything more than that would be impractical.

For once, you make sense. But this is not about a war pact. We are not going to use Mongolia to strike Beijing. It is simply an agreement to cooperate between our countries that's all.

It cant be a open war pact. First and foremost even Mongols will not want it. Its suicidal for them to go into war with China. They would prefer to be in the background.
 
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Yes we can use for Humint and electronic intel which is quiet difficult from south of china. Russia will never mind to use mongol to know more about China

Supplies can always be routed thru Russia. Russia always open to help in crisis for India. We can for sure rely on Russia than on USA.


It is not just about trust but this is possible only when we are simply "peeping" in. Not in a full blown war. Do you know how much is there to travel inside Russia itself? :lol: That country is more than 8 times our country's size. Only intelligence gathering is possible from Mongolia. Nothing more.
 
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It is not just about trust but this is possible only when we are simply "peeping" in. Not in a full blown war. Do you know how much is there to travel inside Russia itself? :lol: That country is more than 8 times our country's size. Only intelligence gathering is possible from Mongolia. Nothing more.

Allys are formed not for personal advantage, its made to stay united, Its always not what we can take but also what we can share and jointly carve out of our relationship.
 
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Development of any cooperation with Mongolia not an issue but what India is looking for establishing defense cooperation? A deliberate future planning covering China? Then India will step on empty place because it will end same as defense cooperation with Tajikistan. Russia never will allow any effective Indian defense presence and China will not allow Indian plans in Mongolia in context to defense.

Now Indian policy is just looking for every possible way to tackle China by binding relations with China confronting states where US backing India. But they are forgetting that India doesn't in position to handle possible reaction from China. You people are talking about trust over Russia but even Russia will not support any Indian idea disturbing China from their stable boundary with Mongolia & China.
 
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India Inks Defence Cooperation Pact With Mongolia

Giving a fillip to its ties with Mongolia, India today signed a defence cooperation agreement with the northeast Asian country and announced that it would extend a USD 20 million Line of Credit for a joint IT, education and outsourcing centre to be set up here.

India and Mongolia also inked two pacts on media exchanges and cooperation between their planning commissions in the presence of President Pratibha Patil, who is here on a three-day visit.

Patil is the first Indian President to visit Mongolia in 23 years.

After her half-an-hour restricted talks with this country's leadership, Patil said her parleys with President Tsakhia Elbegdorj were held in a warm, friendly and cordial atmosphere.

"My visit seeks to strengthen our relationship, building upon the momentum generated by the visit of President Elbegdorj to India in September 2009, when our ties were expanded to a comprehensive partnership," she said.

"We have signed an agreement of cooperation between the Planning Commission of India and its Mongolian counterpart. There is considerable expertise on plan formulation and implementation in India. We look forward to sharing our experience in this area with Mongolia," Patil said.

A bilateral defence cooperation agreement was also signed, she said. "...India is willing and ready to expand collaboration in this sphere."


Besides, she said that New Delhi will extend a Line of Credit of USD 20 million for the 'India–Mongolia Joint Information Technology, Education and Outsourcing Centre' to be established here.

The two countries also discussed ways to further cooperation in the peaceful use of radioactive minerals and nuclear energy.

"We also agreed to explore the possibilities of improving air connectivity between our two countries so as to enhance contacts between our peoples, including through tourism," Patil said.

With an MoU on media exchanges signed between the two governments, "we can now hope to see more media persons from Mongolia in India. We will also send more Indian journalists here," she said.

The agreements were signed in a grand hall at the National Assembly.

Patil, who arrived here yesterday following her three-day visit to South Korea, visited the historic Sukhbaatar square today and offered floral tributes to a statue of Mahatma Gandhi here. Members of the Indian community sang a song in praise of the Father of the Nation.

The President was given a ceremonial welcome by the Mongolian security services personnel at the Sukhbaatar square, which has a grand statue of Genghis Khan.

She took salute from the force during the grand ceremony and said 'thank you' in Mongolian language, which was applauded by a number of people present at the event, including politicians and officials.

Mongolia is celebrating the "Year of Anniversaries", including the 805th anniversary of the establishment of the Great Mongolian State under the leadership of the legendary Genghis Khan and 90th anniversary of the Mongolian Independence and Sovereignty.

Patil stressed on reviving Mongolia's contacts with Nalanda University, which is being rejuvenated as a regional seat of learning and excellence, in particular of Buddhist studies.

"It is encouraging that we also share other values such as democracy, rule of law and upholding the rights of the individual. This forms the bedrock of our bilateral cooperation," Patil said.

"My discussions with President Elbegdorj today were wide-ranging and covered the entire gamut of our bilateral relations as well regional and global issues of mutual interest," she said.

India will also upgrade and modernise the Rajiv Gandhi Art and Production School as well as the Atal Bihari Vajpayee Centre of Excellence in Information and Communication Technology here.


"We will complete this work soon. Further, we have agreed to work together on a joint India–Mongolia School," Patil said.

Mongolia is spread in an area of 1.565 million square km and has a population of about 2.7 million. About 92 per cent of its population follows Buddhism and the country shares its border with China and Russia.

India and Mongolia are good trading partners. India exports pharma products, veterinary medicines, automobiles and their parts to this country and the bilateral trade has touched USD 16.9 million.

India has also decided to increase the number of slots available to Mongolia under the Indian Technical Education Cooperation (ITEC) Programme to 150.


"The number of Indian Council of Cultural Relations (ICCR) scholarships available to Mongolia will be increased to 50. India will assist in human resource development and capacity building efforts of Mongolia," Patil said.

Extending her support to Mongolia "in any way," she thanked the country for backing India's bid for the permanent membership of an expanded United Nations Security Council.
FILED ON: JUL 28, 2011

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this pact seems part of 'look at east' policy and answer to stapled visas.

where are the guys now who were saying" India cant dare to answer back china." :lol:

oh i know answer> gone with the wind!! :cheesy:
 
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Development of any cooperation with Mongolia not an issue but what India is looking for establishing defense cooperation? A deliberate future planning covering China? Then India will step on empty place because it will end same as defense cooperation with Tajikistan. Russia never will allow any effective Indian defense presence and China will not allow Indian plans in Mongolia in context to defense.

Tajikistan plan is long grounded and we don't want to go there. Russians are not comfortable, so we will not bother them. You'd be surprised that it was Mongols who agreed for an airbase in their territory for intelligence post, but it was the stupid UPA government with their spineless and anti-Indian leadership that screwed up the plans. Google it.

If China can have its playthings around India, I don't think it can do anything to stop us from having friendly ties with Mongols.

Now Indian policy is just looking for every possible way to tackle China by binding relations with China confronting states where US backing India. But they are forgetting that India doesn't in position to handle possible reaction from China. You people are talking about trust over Russia but even Russia will not support any Indian idea disturbing China from their stable boundary with Mongolia & China.

Reaction? Like what? Invasion? :lol:. On a serious note, China is already doing what it feels it has to do by helping your country survive, aiding Lankans and propping BNP and Jamaati types in Bangladesh. It is very much within its rights to do what it feels to secure its interests. While we are enhancing ties with Southeast Asian countries like Cambodia, Burma, Laos, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines and Vietnam as well as Japan and South Korea. If these countries in Chinese opinion can't do anything against China, the same is applicable for the Chinese backed countries in South Asia.

It is a game that two can play. China is welcome to try its luck here, while we are not staying put either. Simple.
 
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Development of any cooperation with Mongolia not an issue but what India is looking for establishing defense cooperation? A deliberate future planning covering China? Then India will step on empty place because it will end same as defense cooperation with Tajikistan. Russia never will allow any effective Indian defense presence and China will not allow Indian plans in Mongolia in context to defense.

Now Indian policy is just looking for every possible way to tackle China by binding relations with China confronting states where US backing India. But they are forgetting that India doesn't in position to handle possible reaction from China. You people are talking about trust over Russia but even Russia will not support any Indian idea disturbing China from their stable boundary with Mongolia & China.

Oh ma god we are doomed :undecided: one body on this planet can help us ..we cant help ourselfs either..pakistan wants to fry us china wants to eat us and the one thing we poor hindoos can do is submit to their will and die..ohhhh god i curse the moment my ancestors kicked the sand dwellers and refused to accept their crap theory, had that happened pakistan the champion muslim country and the mighty arabic martial sand dwelling race would have save us from china..
 
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Development of any cooperation with Mongolia not an issue but what India is looking for establishing defense cooperation? A deliberate future planning covering China? Then India will step on empty place because it will end same as defense cooperation with Tajikistan. Russia never will allow any effective Indian defense presence and China will not allow Indian plans in Mongolia in context to defense.

Now Indian policy is just looking for every possible way to tackle China by binding relations with China confronting states where US backing India. But they are forgetting that India doesn't in position to handle possible reaction from China. You people are talking about trust over Russia but even Russia will not support any Indian idea disturbing China from their stable boundary with Mongolia & China.

I expected this reaction,a suggestion with a blend of threat,dont bother to roam around China or otherwise they will do that,they will do this,India cannot match,India cannot stop,whatever,whatever.

As Tshering explained if India and Mongolia are interested in taking this relation ahead their is no force in the world that can stop us,by the way India did not initiated this,it was China with its India surrounding plans.

Mongolia is squeezed between Russia and China,China will not allow India into Mongolia and Russia will not enjoy Indian military presence near their territory but you are too much optimistic if you this is just some show off even after signing an agreement.
 
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I expected this reaction,a suggestion with a blend of threat,dont bother to roam around China or otherwise they will do that,they will do this,India cannot match,India cannot stop,whatever,whatever.

As Tshering explained if India and Mongolia are interested in taking this relation ahead their is no force in the world that can stop us,by the way India did not initiated this,it was China with its India surrounding plans.

Mongolia is squeezed between Russia and China,China will not allow India into Mongolia and Russia will not enjoy Indian military presence near their territory but you are too much optimistic if you this is just some show off even after signing an agreement.

I don't see why Russians should have a problem with Indian military intelligence pointed towards Chinese. The intended target is not Russia, neither the base is taken in a former Russian/Soviet territory like the "stans". So Guessing that they won't like it is wrong.
 
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