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India hosts Balochistan based terror head in its Capital.

Heat? haha.. the only one feelin heat is india ... your dummies are either getting whacked or surrendering.. meanwhile insurgencies in india are on the rise...

India threatening Pakistan over Balochistan ? hmm.. or maybe india itself is proving to the world that it supports terrorism in Pak.. only giving Pakistan credibility over the terrorism issue??

Im a Baluch myself.. tell us more about the Baloch nation? lmao.. BLA etc doesnt just think about Balochistan.. they want greater Balochistan:
Can't you read? I clearly said it may not deliver a Baloch state, but puts the nationalists in a better negotiating position.

The more billegerent are always the most noisy. The silent majority's opinion is one which should bother us. In J&K, it is still unknown what is in their minds, what with the divided people in different geographies and polities. Let us wait and watch.

Hand over evidence.. not washing powders or fake lists of individuals (some who are found in india... others mere shopkeepers at electronic market in lhr)... you didnt even let us interview or investigate the bombay attack witnesses or perps.... Also we dont have any extradition treaty with india..

Apart from that how about sentencing or dispensing justice - Samjhuta Express incident.. where almost 200 Pakistani citizens were burnt to death? how many culprits were nabbed or sentenced ?

Samjhouta Express victims include Indians. So please cut the crap that India rewards people who kill Pakistanis. Even if you believe in the BS, India does not let off people who kill Indians.

Your highest investigating body chief says there is enough evidence. What more do you need? May be a brain?
 
Can't you read? I clearly said it may not deliver a Baloch state, but puts the nationalists in a better negotiating position.

Hahaha... the nationalists are already surrendering n sitting on the negotiations table.. perhaps you should read the news...

It only puts india on the disadvantaged position... infront of the world community...

The more billegerent are always the most noisy. The silent majority's opinion is one which should bother us. In J&K, it is still unknown what is in their minds, what with the divided people in different geographies and polities. Let us wait and watch.

Hold a refrendum and see what the silent majority decides? ??? you up for it?
 
Apart from that how about sentencing or dispensing justice - Samjhuta Express incident.. where almost 200 Pakistani citizens were burnt to death? how many culprits were nabbed or sentenced ?
Btw don't read jihadi literature. The death toll in Samjhauta bombing was 68 including Indians. And people got arrested for that.

Hold a refrendum and see what the silent majority decides? ??? you up for it?
It is like daring someone for ice bucket challenge. India is saying 'Not interested!!'. What are you going to do about it?
 
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Samjhouta Express victims include Indians. So please cut the crap that India rewards people who kill Pakistanis. Even if you believe in the BS, India does not let off people who kill Indians.

Bombay attacks also had other victims of other nationalities...

As for india not letting off people who kill indians.... yeah and im fukin santa... remember gujrat,orissa,muzafarnagar... all those killed were indians.. just muslims... how many ppl were sentenced?

Samjhuta express most of them were Pakistanis ... training bound for Lahore! ... even that was blamed on Pakistam.
Your highest investigating body chief says there is enough evidence. What more do you need? May be a brain?

Who?
 
Hahaha... the nationalists are already surrendering n sitting on the negotiations table.. perhaps you should read the news...

It only puts india on the disadvantaged position... infront of the world community...
Ok. Looks like India accepted the risk. I think the cost benefit ratio is in India's favor. For too long, India stayed defensive with Pakistan for no tactical reason(except peace which was anyway a goner with the adversary).
 
Btw don't read jihadi literature. The death toll in Samjhauta bombing was 68 including Indians. And people got arrested for that.

Yes i believe even that was blamed on Pakistani jihadis?? but than again how many perps have been sentenced over the killings?
It is like daring someone for ice bucket challenge. India is saying 'Not interested!!'. What are you going to do about it?

So basically you know you are losers.. just dont wanna make it official..:cheers:
 
Bombay attacks also had other victims of other nationalities...
What is your point here?
As for india not letting off people who kill indians.... yeah and im fukin santa... remember gujrat,orissa,muzafarnagar... all those killed were indians.. just muslims... how many ppl were sentenced?
OK brother, I submit. India lets off people who kills Indian muslims. Happy?! (FYI, if you are interested, in Gujarat, people got sentenced. Somebody was held accountable.)

Just worry about Samjhauta case, since that is your concern.

Samjhuta express most of them were Pakistanis ... training bound for Lahore! ... even that was blamed on Pakistam.
Read some news and update yourself. India no longer blames Pakistan for it(for many years now actually).
I posted a dawn link. Here it is again, in case you missed it in the hurry to 'defend' Pakistan:
Mumbai attacks trial - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
The writer is former DG, FIA.
 
Yeah they just kill civilians... fire rockets at trains .. kidnap and execute innocent Baloch proffessionals,proffessors,doctors,punjabi labourers and pashtuns..

Google it jackass.

lol Useless trying to bring facts to them, according to some Indians they are more Baluch then you. :rofl:
 
We have tons of Baloch living in India. Many of them in Pune.

I wonder if some old timers here would recall that one of my very close biker buddies is a Baloch. Came to India as a young puppy. Finished his studies now and doing great on the DJ scene locally.

It is as it is.

The Baloch, especially some old tribes like the Marri, have strong Hindu roots. All of this does not suddenly change one fine day with a border being drawn on a map.

How does a hindu/muslim/christian/athiest Baloch has anything to do with India and partition, Baloch majority area overlaps Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan. What do they have to do with today's India ????
 
Yes i believe even that was blamed on Pakistani jihadis?? but than again how many perps have been sentenced over the killings?
Please don't believe. This is getting old with Pakistanis. Read some news. It was initially blamed on jihadis.
So basically you know you are losers.. just dont wanna make it official..:cheers:
I just gave you an analogy. I don't want to take an ice-bucket challenge. I also don't want to walk on fire and burn down my house or even yours(which is what J&K plebiscite will lead to eventually).
You want to call me a loser? OK. Here take a chocolate and be happy.

A more appropriate analogy. Let us play a game.

Heads you have to give me your house. Tails nothing. You want to play this game?!
NO?!! You loser!! :chilli:
 
What is your point here?

Was responding to your comment about indians on a lahore bound train blown by indians ... blamed on Pak?
OK brother, I submit. India lets off people who kills Indian muslims. Happy?! (FYI, if you are interested, in Gujarat, people got sentenced. Somebody was held accountable.)

I really dnt give a fuk... but try not to lie so very much...

Just worry about Samjhauta case, since that is your concern.

Okay..

Read some news and update yourself. India no longer blames Pakistan for it(for many years now actually).

Thank you for that... hope you sentence your ppl who killed our ppl.

I posted a dawn link. Here it is again, in case you missed it in the hurry to 'defend' Pakistan:
Mumbai attacks trial - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
The writer is former DG, FIA.


Perhaps you should read what you post? huh?

Mumbai attacks trial - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
THE Mumbai terror attacks were claimed by India to be its 9/11. For more than 66 hours, 10 highly trained militants played havoc in India’s commercial metropolis, spraying bullets and shedding the blood of innocent civilians and tourists in November 2008, bringing the two nuclear neighbours to the brink of an all-out war.

In Ufa, Russia on July 10, 2015, both the prime ministers of Pakistan and India were “prepared to discuss all outstanding issues,” and both the leaders “condemned terrorism in all its forms” and agreed to cooperate with each other “to eliminate this menace from South Asia”. Therefore, we in Pakistan should welcome this development wholeheartedly.

Didn’t we suffer the pain and agony of our own 9/11 on Dec 16, 2014, at the hands of the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan and its surrogates and aren’t we as a nation determined to root out terrorism in all its forms from our soil? The answer is obviously a resounding yes and I have no doubt that the political and security leadership have resolved to eliminate the scourge of terrorism, militancy and extremism through the counterterrorism National Action Plan. The duality and distinction between good and bad Taliban, including all militants and terrorists, should stand removed from Miramshah to Muridke, from Karachi to Quetta.

Against this backdrop, the agreement between PMs Sharif and Modi in Ufa to approve the meeting of their national security advisers to “discuss all issues related to terrorism” was a welcome development. Pakistan’s concerns in respect of the botched investigation into the Samjhauta Express bombing and alleged covert support to the Baloch insurgency as well as reported ‘terror financing’ both in Karachi and Fata by Indian and other foreign agencies should not only be highlighted but concrete evidence presented to put a stop to such means of non-kinetic warfare resorted to by sleuths from both sides to further their so-called national interests.

There are very knowledgeable and competent professionals with investigation and intelligence background in Pakistan who can meet the Indian security officials and talk as professionals. They too have many skeletons in their cupboards. So why fight shy? Let both India and Pakistan admit their mistakes and follies and learn to co-exist while trying to find solutions to their thorny issues through peaceful means.

Pakistan has to deal with the Mumbai mayhem, planned and launched from its soil. This requires facing the truth and admitting mistakes. The entire state security apparatus must ensure that the perpetrators and masterminds of the ghastly terror attacks are brought to justice. The case has lingered on for far too long. Dilatory tactics by the defendants, frequent change of trial judges, and assassination of the case prosecutor as well as retracting from original testimony by some key witnesses have been serious setbacks for the prosecutors. However, cognizance was taken by the Islamabad High Court which directed the trial to be concluded within two months.

The following facts are pertinent. First, Ajmal Kasab was a Pakistani national, whose place of residence and initial schooling as well as his joining a banned militant organisation was established by the investigators. Second, the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) terrorists were imparted training near Thatta, Sindh and launched by sea from there. The training camp was identified and secured by the investigators. The casings of the explosive devices used in Mumbai were recovered from this training camp and duly matched. Third, the fishing trawler used by the terrorists for hijacking an Indian trawler in which they sailed to Mumbai, was brought back to harbour, then painted and concealed. It was recovered by the investigators and connected to the accused. Fourth, the engine of the dinghy abandoned by the terrorists near Mumbai harbour contained a patent number through which the investigators traced its import from Japan to Lahore and then to a Karachi sports shop from where an LeT-linked militant purchased it along with the dinghy. The money trail was followed and linked to the accused who was arrested. Fifth, the ops room in Karachi, from where the operation was directed, was also identified and secured by the investigators. The communications through Voice over Internet Protocol were unearthed. Sixth, the alleged commander and his deputies were identified and arrested. Seventh, a couple of foreign-based financiers and facilitators were arrested and brought to face trial.

After an exchange of multiple investigation dossiers with the Indian police authorities, the trial court was requested to give approval to obtain voice samples of the alleged commander and his deputies for comparison with the recorded voices. The court ruled that the consent of the accused should be obtained. Obviously, the suspects refused. Then a plea was submitted before the sessions court to authorise the investigators to take the voice samples despite the lack of consent. The plea was denied on account of there being no such provision in the Evidence Act or the antiterrorism law applicable at that time. The investigators then went in appeal before the High Court. That appeal, I believe, is still pending. The Fair Trial Act, 2013 caters for admissibility of such technical evidence. However, its application with retrospective effect is a moot point.

The Mumbai case is quite unique: one incident with two jurisdictions and two trials. While the Indians managed to nab Ajmal Kasab and were able to obtain his confession to close the trial, proving conspiracy in a different jurisdiction is more complex and requires a far superior quality of evidence. Therefore, the legal experts from both sides need to sit together rather than sulk and point fingers.


Indian interlocutors, engaged during the talks between the then prime ministers of India and Pakistan in Egypt in 2009, had conceded that the Pakistani investigators had done a professional job in the indictment of seven perpetrators of the attack. However, the Pakistani authorities should not forget that the FIA declared various other facilitators and operatives as fugitives in the case. The trial will not be over with the disposal of those under arrest or on bail. Other missing links need to be uncovered after the absconders’ arrest.

This case will not be over soon.


Are we as a nation prepared to muster the courage to face uncomfortable truths and combat the demons of militancy that haunt our land? That is the question!

Please don't believe. This is getting old with Pakistanis. Read some news. It was initially blamed on jihadis.

I just gave you an analogy. I don't want to take an ice-bucket challenge. I also don't want to walk on fire and burn down my house or even yours(which is what J&K plebiscite will lead to eventually).
You want to call me a loser? OK. Here take a chocolate and be happy.

So basically you are contradicting your previous statement about the "silent majority" ... thats great.

How does a hindu/muslim/christian/athiest Baloch has anything to do with India and partition, Baloch majority area overlaps Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan. What do they have to do with today's India ????

There is a small "Baloch" population in india... descendants of Baluch military officers,soldiers and rulers who ruled parts of northern india .. or were part of Pashtun and Mughal militaries..
 
There is a small "Baloch" population in india... descendants of Baluch military officers,soldiers and rulers who ruled parts of northern india .. or were part of Pashtun and Mughal militaries..

Their traditional land is Balochistan , their area is in Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan, not India, decedents can't be counted as part of their traditional land, its where the people maintain their customs, culture, folklore and have been doing it since thousands of years.
 
Their traditional land is Balochistan , their area is in Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan, not India, decedents can't be counted as part of their traditional land, its where the people maintain their customs, culture, folklore and have been doing it since thousands of years.

Well i learnt from vsdoc that my tribe was hindu and still follows hindu roots? :lol:
 
Funny Pakistanis claiming that there proxy wars were limited to Kashmir, whereas fact is Pakistan supported radical extremists within India carried out several terrorists attacks including 26/11.

Or 1993 bomb blasts or support for NE separatists via erstwhile East Pakistan or Khalistan. The list just goes on and on. When you are engaged in proxy wars, there are no standard set of rules that you must follow. Pakistanis support, train, finance terrorist activities in J&K and also in other places whenever they get a chance. It is about time India took an offensive stance.
 
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