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@sancho :
Do you think that CH-53 is better than CH-46?
It is a shame that our aerospace industry is not matured enough to take care of the spares of helicopters..There would be no better option than to have a fleet of Mi-26 with spares being produced in the house..Hope this time Russia provides us enough tech to make us self-sufficient in spares front..This is the least they can do to sweeten the deal..
but i still wonder why KAMOV 52 aligator dint entered the race ,anyone have any news about it
APACHE AH -64 D BLOCK 3 VS MI 28NE HAVOC
MI-28 NE HAVOC
Specifications
Crew 2 - With Pilot seated above and behind Gunner
Engines 2× Klimov TV3-117VMA 1,950 horsepower
Dimensions L - 17.01 m
W (rotor span) - 17.20 m
H - 3.82 m
Weights 5,910 kg (empty)
11500 kg (max takeoff)
Max Speed 324 kph
Range 460 km
Armament 30 mm NPPU-28 (300 rounds)
80mm/130mm unguided rockets
up to 16 AT-6 anti-tank missiles
various cannon/machine gun pods
AA-11/ SA-16 air-to-air missiles
Avionics FLIR
Microwave Radar
Narrow-field Video
Laser Designator
Infra-red jammers
Radar warning receivers
Laser warning receivers
APACHE AH-64D BLOCK 3
Specifications
Accommodation: Crew 2
Guns: Main Gun Caliber 30 mm
Dimensions: Height 5.0 m, Length 17.7 m, Main Rotor Diameter 14.6 m, Width 5.2 m
Weights: Max Weight 7,530 kg (16,601 lb)
Performance: Endurance 3 hours, Max Range 483 km (261 nm), Top Speed 74 mps (265 kph)
Power: Power 3,780 shp
Other: Main Rotor Blades 4, Number of Engines 2
ARMAMENT
Guided Missiles:
AGM-114A Hellfire (16)
AGM-114B Hellfire (16)
AGM-114C Hellfire (16)
AGM-114F Hellfire (16)
AGM-114K Hellfire II (16)
AGM-114L Longbow Hellfire (16)
AGM-114R Hellfire II (16)
SAM & ABM Missiles:
FIM-92 Stinger (4)
FIM-92 Stinger-RMP (4)
Power plant:
T700-GE-701D (2)
Sensors & Communications:
AN/APG-78
AN/APR-48A RFI
Arrowhead
Guns & Missile Launchers:
M230 Chain Gun
M299 (4)
Protection Systems:
AN/ALQ-136
AN/ALQ-211 SIRFC
DASS
I am not sure why everyone favors Apache.. Havoc flies longer, faster and has more armament as well as armor..
May be people have seen too many discovery channel documentaries
Its the whole package for which APACHE is preferred..Attack helicopter is much more than armament..and anyhow this is mainly for showpiece..Our workhorse will be LCH..
I dont trust the yanks somehow, they will stop special protection suits saying sign CISMOA and other acronym shyt.
And if you want to bring rain from hell i would suggest that havoc eats apache for breakfast.
In that case we should go for Super-Hind..
Ah the beast.. i dont think many helis or ground forces stand a chance against this beast...
Ah the beast.. i dont think many helis or ground forces stand a chance against this beast...
Hind or super Hind are quite old. They had good old times, but their time is almost over. Apache Block 3 is modern and have much more sophisticated sensor suite and self defense systems.
For the heavy lift role, yes but would like to see a modern Mi 26 even more.
There was talk about China joining the development of the new Mi 26, I wonder if Russia offers that for us too? Would be great if HAL can take over the maintenance, or maybe even the upgrade with modern avionics and cockpit parts.
What do you think about that possibility Capt.Popeye? Could we counter the serviceability issues like that?